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Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« on: October 26, 2008, 05:13:56 AM »
Well last game he strikes solid to win the game by playing over the left gutter.  Now to play Norm Duke, he decides to move all the way to the right gutter.  He has 43 in the 3rd frame and missed the head pin in the 2nd frame LOL.

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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2008, 10:29:57 AM »
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Chris Barnes's objective while on the PBA is to make a living to support his family, and a he does a very fine job at that (he bowls extremely well during the week, and places himself in a position to make lots of dough, regardless if he wins or not).

Criticism from small-minded individuals leveled at his performances on television, is a reflection of their own ineptitude and lack of achievement.  

Wishing failure on anyone is cowardly and despicable.

Incidentally, Necro, Barnes banked more money in the past few years than the bowlers you mention above (including Walter Ray), great as they are.

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Wolf,

I agree with you 100%.  However, I do root for others' failure.  When the target is Bill Belichick, does it still count?

Chris Barnes is a tremendous bowler and if I could throw the ball 1/100th as good as he can, I'd be a very happy camper.  Remember, to "choke" on TV means that you also had to outlast a bunch of other guys out there who are trying to make a living as well in order to get on the telecast.

In order to lose that many finals, you also need to make that many finals.
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Baccala,

I believe there is a distinct difference between wishing someone failure on a personal level, and rooting against someone, as in your example, since you are basically saying that you want your team to beat so-and-so's team (or wishing an individual to outshine another).  

You are not saying that you want the guy out of business, since you do realize he's a great coach (Bill Belichick), and likely you enjoy it very much if your team beats his, as beating a worthy opponent is exponentially much more enjoyable than trashing a team that doesn't provide the same level of challenge.

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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2008, 10:36:35 AM »
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I have about 2x the speed and revs as he does and that is just how I play. So there!


And -100x the talent.
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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2008, 11:40:41 AM »
Barnes simply didn't have a good reaction. People forget the how he pulled every trick in the book against Simard last year on arrid conditions to win that tournament. On this particular day, Norm had the best look and reaction and Barnes didn't have enough frames to figure something out. Goes without saying, both great bowlers.

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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2008, 11:46:05 AM »
dont know how you say barnes choked again, duke had a great look and took advantage of it, yea barnes messed up by movin outside but i dont consider that choking...barnes will be back and will prob win POY this yr, if that is choking than i would love to be a choker..
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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2008, 11:46:11 AM »
IMHO, I thought the move the outside was dictate by Norm's practice shots between games in addition to a calculated decision to play in Norm's line.  I think Duke was burning up the track area with a very dull piece during commercial time and may have blown a hole in Barnes' look.  In all honesty, even if Barnes is able to keep the same line, he still doesn't beat Duke.  Norm, without question, was the better bowler today and probably will be for many years.
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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2008, 11:46:40 AM »
Barnes, is one of the best. In the finals, bet on another horse and you likely will  win. Call it choking, call it not performing as well as some think he should in the clutch. It is factual, not perceived. In the last seconds, down by 1, some players live for the moment, want and make the shot. Others do not. Barnes falls into the latter category, for sure. No one remembers the team that made it to the Superbowl.

Yesterday, Barnes made a bad call. Actually two. He changed balls and lines. He seemed to have a good look at the end of the semis with the momentum swing. Duke did move inside during warm up, but Duke struck with every ball that was shown on T.V. thrown inside during warm up, and then he moved back outside to win the match. Barnes had the inside all to himself. I would have liked to have seen him start where he left off and continue to move inside with his A game. I think we will see that from him in the future.

Necro, not to like Duke's game---not to like poetry in motion. How much power does it take to consistently put ten in the pit? Norm Duke has it figured out for sure.

We are the consuming public. We have a right to be critics, regardless to whether we are good bowlers. Talking about the game and the players is a good thing. For sure, Barnes, Duke(all in tears though he may be), Diaper Rash, WRW, help to keep the ratings up.

This is the only sport that I know of where fans get so sensitive when other fans criticize the players for not winning or not performing well.
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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2008, 11:53:11 AM »
Why did Barnes move ?  Well, like someone said, Norm was tosting the outside part of the lane plus, I'm guessing that he figured that the best he gould get was 2 O or 2 teen and that would not be enough.

Took a lot of guts to make the move he did, and if it worked all you Barnes haters would be quiet.

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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2008, 12:03:38 PM »
Barnes has the best physical game on tour.  Sometimes his mental game has been shaky, on TV, but he is on TV week in and week out and makes more money than anyone else on tour, so I think he is doing okay.

Thus we forget that Duke threw what a 258?  That's what 9 or 10 strikes?  Chris was searching, and he didn't find, but how can you call him a choke for trying something he thought might give him the best chance of scoring high enough to win the match?

He just got done shooting like pooh in the semi final and luckily his opponent shot worse, he had to change something if he wanted to compete with the only person on the lanes that had a good look to the hole.

Yes he missed a spare, but at that point it did not matter.  How many of you have had those nights where you can't find anything, and whiff a spare that 99% of the time you make without thinking?  That's what happened here.  He was frustrated at not being able to find something and let that disrupt his spare shot.  The match was already out of hand.

I am a big fan of Norm, and was happy to see him win.  I'm also a fan of Barnes' game and hate to see him lose.  For me personally that final had the two guys I'd like most to see besides PDW.  The score ended up being lopsided, but let us be real THEIR NEW SHIRTS ROCKED!!
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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2008, 03:06:36 PM »
Chris Barnes has had some bad luck during the TV finals.  However, the guy is still one of the best bowlers on tour.  Duke had a winless streak a couple seasons ago but has been on a tear ever since.

If Barnes ever get's on a tear he's going to rack up title wins in a hurry!

For this tourney I don't think Barnes lost because of a break down in his mental game.

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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2008, 03:27:24 PM »
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I have about 2x the speed and revs as he does and that is just how I play. So there!


And -100x the talent.
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Jorge,

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BowlingWolf,
    Im thinking you missed the negative. I thought giving him a zero was too high praise, so I thought the -100 was more appropriate. Even if Duke lost all his talent, he'd still be light years ahead of Necro, so hence the -100X. Or maybe I missed the sarcasm in your post, , wouldn't be the first time.
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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2008, 03:43:27 PM »
Taken from Storm's website:  ""The Hy-Road was in play all week," said Storm Tour Representative Chris Schlemer. "You will see many bowlers using it on Tour this year. I told Norm before the match started that he was going to need a big game in the final. What the television audience didn't see, was Barnes got locked in from outside during practice. When the final match started though, Barnes lost the read."


So that's why he made his move.  Barnes makes the 1st TV final of the year, in a major tournament no less, & we are already calling him a choker again???  Come on, let's let the season get underway.
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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2008, 04:34:37 PM »
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I have about 2x the speed and revs as he does and that is just how I play. So there!


And -100x the talent.
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Jorge,

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BowlingWolf,
    Im thinking you missed the negative. I thought giving him a zero was too high praise, so I thought the -100 was more appropriate. Even if Duke lost all his talent, he'd still be light years ahead of Necro, so hence the -100X. Or maybe I missed the sarcasm in your post, , wouldn't be the first time.
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Jorge,

I see what you mean.  Actually what I thought you had written was 100% (which was an attempt at sarcasm), since my old eyes missed your negative sign.
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Edited on 10/27/2008 4:36 PM

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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2008, 04:38:32 PM »
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Taken from Storm's website:  ""The Hy-Road was in play all week," said Storm Tour Representative Chris Schlemer. "You will see many bowlers using it on Tour this year. I told Norm before the match started that he was going to need a big game in the final. What the television audience didn't see, was Barnes got locked in from outside during practice. When the final match started though, Barnes lost the read."


So that's why he made his move.  Barnes makes the 1st TV final of the year, in a major tournament no less, & we are already calling him a choker again???  Come on, let's let the season get underway.
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Sadly, it likely won't be the last time many more accomplished ballreviews bowlers blast Chris over the course of the new season.
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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2008, 04:59:58 PM »
You should just make the new username, FIGJAMancer and get it over with.  Talk about pen1s envy.  This is the worst case I have ever witnessed.

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Re: Choke Artist Chris Choking Again LOL
« Reply #60 on: October 27, 2008, 05:13:09 PM »
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You should just make the new username, FIGJAMancer and get it over with.  Talk about pen1s envy.  This is the worst case I have ever witnessed.


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