BallReviews

General Category => PBA => Topic started by: mrbowlingnut on January 30, 2007, 02:37:30 AM

Title: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: mrbowlingnut on January 30, 2007, 02:37:30 AM
Jason Hurd is in eye surgery this morning for a detached retina sp?? He was sucker punched on friday night inside Sunset Station by an off duty Station employee. He was coming to defend Tony Reyes who was being verbally attacked about PBA bowlers being a joke. Jason never saw the punch coming and probably will lose his exempt status from not making it points wise now, he is probably going to be out the rest of the year.

Pray for Jason and i hope Station pays his bills and the PBA defers his exempt status for next year, this is a disgrace to Vegas and Station Casinos.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: shelley on January 30, 2007, 11:08:05 AM
quote:
probably will lose his exempt status from not making it points wise now, he is probably going to be out the rest of the year.


It really sucks for Jason, and I hope there's no long-term damage that could hurt his career.

But the way he's been bowling, he didn't need an eye-injury to be worried about losing his exemption.  Dino Castillo has 9 places on him and he's not even exempt.

SH
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: unreal25 on January 30, 2007, 11:09:22 AM
First off, the fight had NOTHING to do with the guys verbally attacking Tony Reyes about "bowling being a joke."

Second off, if Jason's retina was already "detached" he would have gone blind. It was becoming detached.

If you are going to post about something that involves someone other than yourself please know the right facts to report on, otherwise you will just start a rumor mill!!

Wish the best for Jason.


Edited on 1/30/2007 12:08 PM

Edited on 1/30/2007 12:36 PM
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on January 30, 2007, 11:20:49 AM
Maybe a link to another reputable source is in order?

Also, who will get in if he is out?  How far out of the cut was Wayne Webb when the tour trials were over?
--------------------
T-Struck baby.  T-Struck baby.  T-Struck is on the truck and here we struck baby!
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: shelley on January 30, 2007, 11:24:45 AM
quote:
Also, who will get in if he is out?  How far out of the cut was Wayne Webb when the tour trials were over?


There's less than half the season remaining.  Doesn't seem fair to pick up another bowler from Tour Trials or points at this point.  There'd be no way to earn an exemption starting this late in the game short of winning.  Might be better to just open up another spot in PTQs.

SH
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: mrbowlingnut on January 30, 2007, 11:37:24 AM
Ok unreal25 you say what you say yes it is not detached he is seeing black spots and was told that driving to El Paso would be a bad idea. He was told by a specialist in Vegas that he is was probably going to detach at any time.

Unless you were in the Bar when this happened and would like to be a man and post your real name??? You do not know what is going on here do you??  Yes it did have to do with Tony reyes being verbally attacked and his girlfriend asked the bartender for security and they did nothing about it.

I know people on the PBA tour i am not going to post who it is or who is telling me this but the br members can trust anything i post for being accurate. This is second hand so yes by legality it is rumors in case you work for Station and wish to threaten me with a law suit.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Necromancer on January 30, 2007, 12:30:02 PM
Man Jason should sue that guy for everything he has.  Then that guy should go to prison for a minimum sentence of 5 years in maximum security.  We need to send a message to all these retards in the world that PBA bowling is not a joke and that if you touch a player or any athlete for any sport, you will be paying the price with money and prison.


--------------------
Current arsenal:
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Storm Trauma ER
Storm Recharge
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Current Average: 202.16
Hand me any reactive pearl and enjoy the show!
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: hbones80 on January 30, 2007, 12:44:22 PM
unreal25....

http://www.kellogg.umich.edu/patientcare/conditions/detached.retina.html

Definition
A retinal detachment occurs when the retina is pulled away from its normal position in the back of the eye. The retina sends visual images to the brain through the optic nerve. When detachment occurs, vision is blurred. A detached retina is a very serious problem that almost always causes blindness unless it is treated.

Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: mrbowlingnut on January 30, 2007, 12:55:30 PM
Btw his surgery is in his hometown of Tampa Florida if anyone doubts me, i will update when i hear how it went for all of you later today or tomorrow.

Also a prominent Tour player has been paying all his expenses already we can make a collection from BR members if you are all interested??? I will leave it up to you guys on the collection issue so nobody thinks i am trying to screw anyone on here.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: DP3 on January 30, 2007, 01:06:01 PM
Disgusting.
--------------------
-DJ Marshall
...The Twelve In a Row Pro Shop
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: unreal25 on January 30, 2007, 01:34:05 PM
To let you all know I was there. I would be Tony's girlfriend who repeatedly asked for security! Had both of the bartenders called for security the multiple times I had asked it wouldn't have gone as far as it did.
I know there are are multiple stories out there, but until I talk with Jason and see how he is and if he wants me to post details I will hold off.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: mrbowlingnut on January 30, 2007, 01:41:45 PM
Well i hope Jason sues Station for lack of security and i was not there and i have heard this through a close friend of yours and Tony's. Please post what really provoked these guys to attack Jason??? I have heard that you aksed for help more than once and nobody behind the bar would take this matter seriously??

I am willing to put together a collection for Jason if anyone is interested??? I do not read the PBA boards so i do not know if there is one going on there already???
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: ThongPrincess on January 30, 2007, 01:45:54 PM
I bowled with, talked to and joked around with Jason in Reno.  A very nice guy.  I wish him the very best.
--------------------
"I cannot change the direction of the wind but I can adjust my sails to reach my destination." Jimmy Dean
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=156&leagueid=53
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: unreal25 on January 30, 2007, 01:48:35 PM
Do you know what time he went in today for the surgery?
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: mrbowlingnut on January 30, 2007, 01:53:58 PM
It was this morning in Tampa i am sure he is at home resting by now, i should know by tomorrow if everything went well but i am sure you find out before me. I am not his friend directly just know guys that are also tour players who are, so let us know how he is doing if you call him today.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: stormed1 on January 30, 2007, 02:27:50 PM
Having had a retina detatch myself and having gone through the surgery to reattatch it my prayers are with Jason. In my case the surgery was not successfull as the retina detatched again about 6 weeks after the surgery and i am now blind in that eye.

I pray for a speedy and complete recovery for jjason
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Laybzz74 on January 30, 2007, 02:32:45 PM
If true, that S%X !!! Prayers upon High ...
--------------------
**** Official "L/LM ball junkie" ****
Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
 "Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!

Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Ragnar on January 30, 2007, 02:39:06 PM
Just an FYI, I have independent confirmation of all  of this from another who was there.  I am  told that it was pretty bloody, security was called for (repeatedly) to no avail and that the person who hit Jason was pretty wasted and was arrested, along w/ a friend.  

Here's hoping that it all turns out OK for Mr. Hurd  and that the scum who hit him gets to room with Bubba for several years.
--------------------
"I do desire that we may be better strangers."  Willie the Shake, As You Like it(III,ii)
"Life robs us of more than death does."
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on January 30, 2007, 02:44:00 PM
So it was really a fight like the original poster said?  That almost seems unreal.   Anything can happen if you get sucker punched though.  I remember big story around here where a teen was sucker punched on his temple and he actually died.

--------------------
T-Struck baby.  T-Struck baby.  T-Struck is on the truck and here we struck baby!
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on January 30, 2007, 02:45:14 PM
quote:


http://www.kellogg.umich.edu/patientcare/conditions/detached.retina.html

Definition
A retinal detachment occurs when the retina is pulled away from its normal position in the back of the eye. The retina sends visual images to the brain through the optic nerve. When detachment occurs, vision is blurred. A detached retina is a very serious problem that almost always causes blindness unless it is treated.



Wow that's more serious than I thought.  That is pretty unfair.
--------------------
T-Struck baby.  T-Struck baby.  T-Struck is on the truck and here we struck baby!
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: unreal25 on January 30, 2007, 03:59:03 PM
ok, well here it is in a nutshell.

Tony was coming out of restroom when 2 guys who were related approached him. They were both hassling him, I started to go to him and then one shoved him in the back. I then asked, told and insisted the female bartender to call security and she did nothing. IMO had she called right then and there none of this would have happened. The guys still harassing Tony as he kept walking away from it all. He did nothing to keep the situation going, he just kept walking away. The brothers were pretty drunk, and they were going to start a fight with whomever. I then asked the male bartender to call security and he just shrugged his shoulder. Both bartenders were watching everything unfold. One of the brothers, who worked for the casino. Jason came walking up the steps asked what was going on and got sucker punched by this A**hole. Jason slipped on the wet floor and the bothers then both started hitting him when he was on the ground. That is when security arrived!!! A lil bit too late!!!

This should have never happened. It frustrates me to no end knowing it could have ALL been avoided once the bartender was informed!

Becky

Edited on 1/30/2007 5:32 PM

Edited on 2/3/2007 7:11 PM
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on January 30, 2007, 04:05:41 PM
All I can say is wow.
--------------------
Formerly SGC300
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Mvpbowler on January 30, 2007, 04:10:14 PM
Becky,

Just curious which bar did this happen at?
--------------------
George Palumbo
Mvpbowler300@yahoo.com
Mvpbowler@aim.com
2002 True Amateur Challenge Champion
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: a_ak57 on January 30, 2007, 04:11:59 PM
It's hard not to be cynical when horrendous things like this can happen...I wish Jason well.
--------------------
- Andy
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: unreal25 on January 30, 2007, 04:27:05 PM
Everone called it "The Circle Bar." Not sure if that was it's real name.
Has Blackjack tables in front of it.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: UpTheLeftGutta on January 30, 2007, 04:32:13 PM
I saw Jason walking around in The Orleans on either Saturday or Sunday. Pretty sure it was Sunday. He looked fine to me.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Mvpbowler on January 30, 2007, 04:33:10 PM
Ok, yea that bar actually goes by 3 names.. Center Bar, Circle Bar, and Echo Bar. I was just hoping it wasn't the Bowling Center bar... I happen to know just about all the bartenders that work in that bar, so I am glad to hear it wasn't any of them that wouldn't help you out with security.

I am sorry to hear about the whole situation and that it happened.
--------------------
George Palumbo
Mvpbowler300@yahoo.com
Mvpbowler@aim.com
2002 True Amateur Challenge Champion
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: unreal25 on January 30, 2007, 06:28:54 PM
I did hear though that the male bartender supposedly called security like after the second time I asked him, but well too late if he did call. Like I said I am soo FRUSTRATED it even got to that point! Especially asking quickly so this could have all been avoided.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Mvpbowler on January 30, 2007, 06:34:36 PM
I don't feel the PBA will take this as a reason to not come back. I have dealt with the people at that bar many many times and they are usually more than willing to help. I am sure Station Casino's will do its own review and if they feel a bartender didn't do their job, I am sure the appropriate actions will be taken against them! I am sure I will hear through the great vine about this particular bartender and keep you guys posted on it.

The person who Jason should be going after is actually the person/persons that did this to him! If everything is correct and they were off duty employees there, I am sure they no longer are employees there by now or for that matter allowed back in to at least Sunset Station.
--------------------
George Palumbo
Mvpbowler300@yahoo.com
Mvpbowler@aim.com
2002 True Amateur Challenge Champion


Edited on 1/30/2007 7:33 PM
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: unreal25 on January 30, 2007, 06:38:38 PM
I feel that if a Casino or anyplace of work allows their employees to drink off duty, they should also be liable for their actions! You should ALWAYS conduct yourself properly even off duty at your place of work!
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on January 30, 2007, 06:41:38 PM
I agree with what she said above.
--------------------
Formerly SGC300
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Mvpbowler on January 30, 2007, 06:44:52 PM
Becky,

To a degree I agree there. But they are off the clock therefore on their own time. If an employee strikes you on the clock the establishment should be held liable. But off the clock  they only represent that establishment and therefore that is why they will probably be fired. But they still should enlight of what happened take care of any of Jason's bills. As far as Jason going after Station Casino's I am sure they have the best lawyers money can buy and they will end up telling him to go after the people who did this to him! I am sure they will provide him with names or whatever he may need.
--------------------
George Palumbo
Mvpbowler300@yahoo.com
Mvpbowler@aim.com
2002 True Amateur Challenge Champion
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: unreal25 on January 30, 2007, 07:16:04 PM
Well I used to work at a casino and it was stated in our contract that we were not allowed to drink on/off the clock, because we represented the casino at all times. I am not trying to cause a stir, but I believe casino/employee are both at fault. If not for the guy who threw the punches then for the bartenders who did nothing. Whatever happens in this case will happen. That is not important to me. What's important to me is Jason's health first and foremost. We will all have our own opinion, but I do believe everyone will agree with me that they all wish Jason a speedy and full recovery!



Edited on 1/30/2007 8:15 PM
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Mvpbowler on January 30, 2007, 07:21:16 PM
I totally agree with you on that one... Jason's health and speedy recovery is the first thing here!!! If anyone hears anything, keep us posted would ya.. Thanks
--------------------
George Palumbo
Mvpbowler300@yahoo.com
Mvpbowler@aim.com
2002 True Amateur Challenge Champion
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: tonybowls on January 30, 2007, 07:29:35 PM
My Heart goes out to the Hurd family. What a horrible thing to have happened to him!!!!
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: leftehh- LG on January 30, 2007, 07:30:31 PM
From what I heard when he got punched he fell down and hit his eye on the counter in the bar and that caused most of the damage.
--------------------
Bowl to Win!

"Norm Duke is living proof that elves exist"

Edited on 1/30/2007 8:33 PM
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: unreal25 on January 30, 2007, 07:34:30 PM
If that was the case his left eye would have been cut not the right. He got sucker punched when he wasn't looking, and then when he was on the ground.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Strider on January 30, 2007, 07:44:35 PM
Best wishes to Jason for a full and speedy recovery.  Hopefully the thugs will be held fully accountable.  May their cell mates be big and nasty.
--------------------
Penn State Proud

Special thanks to Dynothane, Visionary, and Lane#1 for donations to the Ballreviews Get Together.

Ron Clifton's Bowling Tip Archive (http://"http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/roncarchive.htm")
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: matt smith on January 31, 2007, 02:08:12 AM
Thats nuts! I hope jason has a speedy and *fingers crossed* full recovery. Seemed like one of the true nice guys on tour. I hope these thugs get what is coming to them. As Strider said... may their cell mates be big and nasty.
--------------------


\m/ Viva La Metal Militia!! \m/
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Necromancer on January 31, 2007, 08:41:55 AM
Why are people messing with PBA bowlers to begin with?  What did they do to anyone?  I read one post of a tournament where 4 PBA bowler's cars were broken into.  What is up with that?  And now this?  The PBA needs to make this news nationwide.  It will bring more attention to the PBA and Jason Hurd can get some backup as I think he should sue the Casino and then the guys that did this.  It is the casino's responsibility to protect those inside of it.  I was just there this past December and it is a rule stated in all casinos that they are responsible to protect player's money and well-being.  This whole thing is BS if Jason Hurd doesn't get paid big time from the lawsuit.  Good luck Jason!


--------------------
Current arsenal:
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Storm Trauma ER
Storm Recharge
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Current Average: 202.16
Hand me any reactive pearl and enjoy the show!
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: shipper50 on January 31, 2007, 09:54:43 AM
I would be willing to bet all I have that the guys were drunk or alcohol was the main factor. Don't you know young men can be BIG men when they are drunk?

Also, I agree that Jason should look into a lawyer and see what is in the works after he recovers.

Shipper
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Ragnar on January 31, 2007, 09:57:41 AM
Shipper, you would win your bet.  The guy that I talked with, who was there, said that the assailant was totally wasted.
--------------------
"I do desire that we may be better strangers."  Willie the Shake, As You Like it(III,ii)
"Life robs us of more than death does."
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: Pinbuster on January 31, 2007, 09:59:53 AM
One of the reasons I don't hang out in places where people get drunk.

You just never know what may happen.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: directdrill on January 31, 2007, 10:00:14 AM
I apologize if I missed reading a post that addressed this point, but did Tony Reyes get injured as well?  This is a tragic story and I wish a full and speedy recovery for Jason.
--------------------
Hook 'em Horns!
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: shipper50 on January 31, 2007, 11:18:03 AM
quote:
One of the reasons I don't hang out in places where people get drunk.

You just never know what may happen.


I my not always agree with you Pinbuster, but we agree here. I haven't had a drink in 17 months and didnt like drunks when I drank. Especially young drunks.. Too macho if you know what I mean.

Shipper
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: unreal25 on January 31, 2007, 11:42:18 AM
I am hoping this is true!

Originally posted by MOOSE300:
UPDATE: Jason had surgery on his eye tues. the first one went well and he is scheduled for another one thurs. I was told by one of his closest friends that if the second one goes well he could be back in 4 weeks. If they have complications it could be a few months before he is able to compete again. I hope he is able to come back. If you know Jason as well as i do you know he is one of the nicest guys on tour.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: ThongPrincess on January 31, 2007, 03:41:35 PM
My previous coach had a detached retina, not from tramatic injury.  He was out around 4 - 6 weeks and fully recovered.  He was back to shooting 300s and 800s relatively quickly.  I hope the same is true for Jason.
--------------------
"I cannot change the direction of the wind but I can adjust my sails to reach my destination." Jimmy Dean
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=156&leagueid=53
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: BrianCRX90 on January 31, 2007, 06:20:44 PM
This was a tragic incident. I couldn't believe this story when I read it. I hope he recovers soon.
Title: Re: Hurd out with eye injury after attack!!
Post by: APheLion on January 31, 2007, 06:24:19 PM
i hope jason can be back soon, he has been in my phantasy all the way from the beginning
--------------------
When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one

This guy on youtube posts videos of the PBA
for ppl who dont watch TV or want to save the matches this will be great!
link! click me (http://"http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Wolf12395")