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Most Boring Bowling
« on: February 24, 2008, 04:14:35 AM »
The topic says it all , the whole show was the most boring that I can ever remember watching, before someone says well these are pros and this was a very tough pattern I know all of that. How does one expect people to get interested enough in bowling with the program today, it sure will not bring in any new fans . I know before you say it I couldn't have done as well on that pattern as they did, however they are pros not me. This is not a put down on the pros it was just a boring show all around except for Frawley he did give us a little show
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2008, 09:03:18 PM »
Most of you are used to just going to league and carrying everything with anything. I bowled in a tourney that put down a sport shot you have to hit your mark just about perfect carry all 10. You could get to the pocket but a strike isn't  promised all the time, its mostly about spares. So seeing a stikefest every week would get old and then you all would have something else to complain about.
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2008, 09:25:01 PM »
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Worst show since the one with Dale Traber. I have a hard time understanding how Frawley or Shaffer even made the show.



There were 3 300's shot the entire tournament. Frawley shot 2 of them. He was obviously nervous, and for once someone had fun on the show./discussion.

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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2008, 10:03:35 PM »
You need to remember, this event was a MAJOR, bowled on a very difficult pattern. I just finished watching it (DVR) and I didn't see anything "boring" about the telecast. These guys are the best in the land, but if they are off there game a little on a major shot, they'll look like me bowling on the shark pattern in a pba event! (184 average)
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2008, 06:24:21 AM »
I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this show.  It looked really tough.
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2008, 06:25:14 AM »
You guys are just depressed because there weren't any hambones.
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2008, 08:14:39 AM »
Look at who are the ones complaining, two of the biggest maroons on these boards, Carl And Necromance. These guys couldn't shoot 250 if you gave 200 pins handicap on these shots. The expect these guys to shoot 270+ every game, but then complain cause of all the strikes. They just like to hear themselves talk, ignore them and they will go away.

My take on the show was this:
Frawly was very nervous, who wouldn't be, your first time on TV in the US at the World Championships. His bowling throught he week proved he deserved to be there and if he were to bowl on tour more, I bet you'd see him on TV a few times a year.
Duke showed guts and no matter how much he played it down, this was for his bowling life. He needed a good showing in this event to make it into the exempt field for next season. How many of us can say thay we could have performed as well under those conditions? Not to mention the cold/flu on top of it.
WRW has had bad ball reactions for last few weeks, on TV anyway. Some of it could be the fact that every knows he will be playing up the outside and they use the dry boards he created to their advantage, creating a different look then WRW expects. And in a one game match, a few frames of uncertainty is all it could take to give your opponent an edge.
Shafer, another close finish in a major. I think he needed to watch the Duke-WRW match and see the dry they created. Maybe a move a few boards to the right and bank it off that bumper, might have worked better then playing inside.

All in all a great show for human drama behind the bowling. Frawly standing up for the international amatuers (some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros), Duke's story, Shafer trying again, etc.
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2008, 08:52:48 AM »
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Look at who are the ones complaining, two of the biggest maroons on these boards, Carl And Necromance. These guys couldn't shoot 250 if you gave 200 pins handicap on these shots. The expect these guys to shoot 270+ every game, but then complain cause of all the strikes. They just like to hear themselves talk, ignore them and they will go away.

My take on the show was this:
Frawly was very nervous, who wouldn't be, your first time on TV in the US at the World Championships. His bowling throught he week proved he deserved to be there and if he were to bowl on tour more, I bet you'd see him on TV a few times a year.
Duke showed guts and no matter how much he played it down, this was for his bowling life. He needed a good showing in this event to make it into the exempt field for next season. How many of us can say thay we could have performed as well under those conditions? Not to mention the cold/flu on top of it.
WRW has had bad ball reactions for last few weeks, on TV anyway. Some of it could be the fact that every knows he will be playing up the outside and they use the dry boards he created to their advantage, creating a different look then WRW expects. And in a one game match, a few frames of uncertainty is all it could take to give your opponent an edge.
Shafer, another close finish in a major. I think he needed to watch the Duke-WRW match and see the dry they created. Maybe a move a few boards to the right and bank it off that bumper, might have worked better then playing inside.

All in all a great show for human drama behind the bowling. Frawly standing up for the international amatuers (some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros), Duke's story, Shafer trying again, etc.
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I will bullet and number my post so you can clearly see the thread.  You obviously need to see the optomologist if you think me and Carl are the only ones complaining:

1.  I am smarter than you and more successful than you ever will be in life.
2.  I could care less about the scores.  Most of us were complaining of the lack of competition.  
3.  I could care less about what you or I shoot on these lanes.
4.  "(some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros)" Change the word "some" to "most" unless you want to continue living in fantasy land.
5.  The best bowlers in the world are NOT in the PBA.
6.  #5 is true because like the olympics and track and field in particular, why would the fastest people in the world train for a race to make nearly nothing when they can go into more profitable sports (i.e. football)?  That is why the idiots questioning the 40 times in the combine don't understand anything about sports.  And yes I am saying there are NFL players that can BEAT the fastest olympic sprinters.
7.  From #6, and similar to the MMA right now, until pay increases, there is no need to bowl or reason to when you can make more money doing other sports or even in many careers outside of sports.  You think someone like Wes Malott would be bowling (he is IMO one of the best bowlers) if he had been a pitcher in MLB or a football player in NFL?  
8.  Stop living in your fantasy and self-righteous self thinking that the PBA bowlers are so untouchable and everything they do is just so great and they are immune to critism and how the PBA is just so holy and so awesome too.
9.  Remember #1 the next time you call me names since you are always below me.
10. For proof of #1 or #9, I can scan my income tax form to really have you STFU.
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2008, 09:19:09 AM »
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Look at who are the ones complaining, two of the biggest maroons on these boards, Carl And Necromance. These guys couldn't shoot 250 if you gave 200 pins handicap on these shots. The expect these guys to shoot 270+ every game, but then complain cause of all the strikes. They just like to hear themselves talk, ignore them and they will go away.

My take on the show was this:
Frawly was very nervous, who wouldn't be, your first time on TV in the US at the World Championships. His bowling throught he week proved he deserved to be there and if he were to bowl on tour more, I bet you'd see him on TV a few times a year.
Duke showed guts and no matter how much he played it down, this was for his bowling life. He needed a good showing in this event to make it into the exempt field for next season. How many of us can say thay we could have performed as well under those conditions? Not to mention the cold/flu on top of it.
WRW has had bad ball reactions for last few weeks, on TV anyway. Some of it could be the fact that every knows he will be playing up the outside and they use the dry boards he created to their advantage, creating a different look then WRW expects. And in a one game match, a few frames of uncertainty is all it could take to give your opponent an edge.
Shafer, another close finish in a major. I think he needed to watch the Duke-WRW match and see the dry they created. Maybe a move a few boards to the right and bank it off that bumper, might have worked better then playing inside.

All in all a great show for human drama behind the bowling. Frawly standing up for the international amatuers (some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros), Duke's story, Shafer trying again, etc.
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I will bullet and number my post so you can clearly see the thread.  You obviously need to see the optomologist if you think me and Carl are the only ones complaining:

1.  I am smarter than you and more successful than you ever will be in life.
2.  I could care less about the scores.  Most of us were complaining of the lack of competition.  
3.  I could care less about what you or I shoot on these lanes.
4.  "(some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros)" Change the word "some" to "most" unless you want to continue living in fantasy land.
5.  The best bowlers in the world are NOT in the PBA.
6.  #5 is true because like the olympics and track and field in particular, why would the fastest people in the world train for a race to make nearly nothing when they can go into more profitable sports (i.e. football)?  That is why the idiots questioning the 40 times in the combine don't understand anything about sports.  And yes I am saying there are NFL players that can BEAT the fastest olympic sprinters.
7.  From #6, and similar to the MMA right now, until pay increases, there is no need to bowl or reason to when you can make more money doing other sports or even in many careers outside of sports.  You think someone like Wes Malott would be bowling (he is IMO one of the best bowlers) if he had been a pitcher in MLB or a football player in NFL?  
8.  Stop living in your fantasy and self-righteous self thinking that the PBA bowlers are so untouchable and everything they do is just so great and they are immune to critism and how the PBA is just so holy and so awesome too.
9.  Remember #1 the next time you call me names since you are always below me.
10. For proof of #1 or #9, I can scan my income tax form to really have you STFU.
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Edited on 2/25/2008 10:04 AM


ROFLMAO

All this proves is waht a maroon you really are. More successful then me, ROFLMAOPIMP.

Show me your tax return there bozo, cmon, I dare you.
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2008, 10:26:20 AM »
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Look at who are the ones complaining, two of the biggest maroons on these boards, Carl And Necromance. These guys couldn't shoot 250 if you gave 200 pins handicap on these shots. The expect these guys to shoot 270+ every game, but then complain cause of all the strikes. They just like to hear themselves talk, ignore them and they will go away.

My take on the show was this:
Frawly was very nervous, who wouldn't be, your first time on TV in the US at the World Championships. His bowling throught he week proved he deserved to be there and if he were to bowl on tour more, I bet you'd see him on TV a few times a year.
Duke showed guts and no matter how much he played it down, this was for his bowling life. He needed a good showing in this event to make it into the exempt field for next season. How many of us can say thay we could have performed as well under those conditions? Not to mention the cold/flu on top of it.
WRW has had bad ball reactions for last few weeks, on TV anyway. Some of it could be the fact that every knows he will be playing up the outside and they use the dry boards he created to their advantage, creating a different look then WRW expects. And in a one game match, a few frames of uncertainty is all it could take to give your opponent an edge.
Shafer, another close finish in a major. I think he needed to watch the Duke-WRW match and see the dry they created. Maybe a move a few boards to the right and bank it off that bumper, might have worked better then playing inside.

All in all a great show for human drama behind the bowling. Frawly standing up for the international amatuers (some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros), Duke's story, Shafer trying again, etc.
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I will bullet and number my post so you can clearly see the thread.  You obviously need to see the optomologist if you think me and Carl are the only ones complaining:

1.  I am smarter than you and more successful than you ever will be in life.
2.  I could care less about the scores.  Most of us were complaining of the lack of competition.  
3.  I could care less about what you or I shoot on these lanes.
4.  "(some of the best bowlers in the world aren't PBA pros)" Change the word "some" to "most" unless you want to continue living in fantasy land.
5.  The best bowlers in the world are NOT in the PBA.
6.  #5 is true because like the olympics and track and field in particular, why would the fastest people in the world train for a race to make nearly nothing when they can go into more profitable sports (i.e. football)?  That is why the idiots questioning the 40 times in the combine don't understand anything about sports.  And yes I am saying there are NFL players that can BEAT the fastest olympic sprinters.
7.  From #6, and similar to the MMA right now, until pay increases, there is no need to bowl or reason to when you can make more money doing other sports or even in many careers outside of sports.  You think someone like Wes Malott would be bowling (he is IMO one of the best bowlers) if he had been a pitcher in MLB or a football player in NFL?  
8.  Stop living in your fantasy and self-righteous self thinking that the PBA bowlers are so untouchable and everything they do is just so great and they are immune to critism and how the PBA is just so holy and so awesome too.
9.  Remember #1 the next time you call me names since you are always below me.
10. For proof of #1 or #9, I can scan my income tax form to really have you STFU.
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Edited on 2/25/2008 10:04 AM


ROFLMAO

All this proves is waht a maroon you really are. More successful then me, ROFLMAOPIMP.

Show me your tax return there bozo, cmon, I dare you.
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LOL.  I thought about it and it would not prove anything for me and would probably release information that is bad like SSN.  I am actually trying to find a way to show where I work and stuff but it is hard since cameras aren't allowed here.  I have met a few people on this site at tournaments so they can vouche for me if you still doubt.  Anyways what I do is mostly in my profile.  

What I can say though is that I'm a nuclear engineer designing a state-of-the-art power plant - the AP1000 (look on google if you think this is made up).  I also am going to the University of Pittsburgh all paid for to get my MBA (i.e. full graduate scholarship)(I can direct you to the class list if you think this is made up).  I also am part owner of a gym and currently training for MMA in the UFC to contend for the middleweight championship title (look me up at pghfightclub.com).  I am only 24.

Maybe you are more successful or not.  Doesn't matter to me.  I am not competing against you or anyone here.  I am done arguing with you.
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2008, 11:06:37 AM »
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[Maybe you are more successful or not.  Doesn't matter to me.  I am not competing against you or anyone here.  I am done arguing with you.


Now you're not competing...you're one who brought it up!! You are such a loser, maybe those isytopes rotted your brain.....and as far as the MMA goes, after I wiped my lunch off the monitor from laughing so hard, all I got to say is, I'll but the PPV just to watch you get your  @ss kicked.

Figured you'd pu$$y out on your challenge too, even after being dared. Now go back to playing with your dolls little girl.

And just to point out, I am more successful then you because I have a wife who loves me, a little boy who will grow up to be more then I ever was (God willing), I have job that pays the bills and lets me enjoy the sport I love almost as much as I want. That's being successful, not because you the junk you listed. With priorities as screwed up as yours you will always be a loser.
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2008, 11:16:31 AM »
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[Maybe you are more successful or not.  Doesn't matter to me.  I am not competing against you or anyone here.  I am done arguing with you.


Now you're not competing...you're one who brought it up!! You are such a loser, maybe those isytopes rotted your brain.....and as far as the MMA goes, after I wiped my lunch off the monitor from laughing so hard, all I got to say is, I'll but the PPV just to watch you get your  @ss kicked.

Figured you'd pu$$y out on your challenge too, even after being dared. Now go back to playing with your dolls little girl.

And just to point out, I am more successful then you because I have a wife who loves me, a little boy who will grow up to be more then I ever was (God willing), I have job that pays the bills and lets me enjoy the sport I love almost as much as I want. That's being successful, not because you the junk you listed. With priorities as screwed up as yours you will always be a loser.
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That is why I took back the successful part since it is ambiguous and varies from definition from person to person.  The fact is that I hate my current job and can't wait to get my MBA.  So right now, you are probably more succesful.  Maybe my priorities are screwed up but I am man enough to admit it.  And yeah you are not alone in wishing me to die in the octagon.  I am out to prove everyone wrong and show what determination can do.  

Anyways, the isotopes didn't rot my brain.  I work in the design area and don't go near the uranium on site.

And yeah, I will be letting everyone know when I make it a PPV.  You will be one of the first to know.

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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2008, 11:18:33 AM »
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Holy cow!  So we have a nuclear scientist on board and probably one or two ditch diggers and everything in between.  What exactly does this have to do with anything?

I was fascinated watching Frawley.  Nice guy, big lug, could trhow the ball pretty well when his form didn't break down.  Looked like a deer in headlights.  Couldn'g get off the lanes quick enough.

WRW I think is the closest thing to the Doomsday striking machine since Earl Anthony.  Love to watch his consistency.  

Ryan Schafer, holy crap!  You have to beat an amateur and then a guy who has missed almost all year and is sicker than a dog to win your first major and YOU COULDN'T CLOSE THE DEAL!  I was shocked.  Change balls, change lines, ANYTHING!!!!!

Duke, I was curious to how often the knee pads would have to be used by Stone and Pederson talking about him.  Have to hand it to him though, he did it.

Boring?  Hardly.  Start looking at all facets of the matches and none are boring.


I LOL'd at the first line before I read Jorge300's response.  It was just funny how we had a topic within a topic going on haha.
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2008, 11:30:21 AM »
Majors should be survival contest(like the US Open in golf which brings most of the pros to their knees and the fans love it) pure and simple. Save the strike fest for the regular tour events.

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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2008, 11:51:53 AM »
the death of professional bowling was when pros are winning on TV with games less than 210. people want to see the pros shooting 299 and half naked women, that would be a start to bringing back professional bowling
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Re: Most Boring Bowling
« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2008, 11:54:56 AM »
Those matches were a real slice of life...sometimes you're the hero...sometimes
the zero. If all you want is a carry contest, pick one of those telecasts and watch it over and over and over and ......................................