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PBA US Open
« on: April 11, 2021, 04:51:20 PM »
Watching today’s show and see Ancona throwing a plugged Purple Hammer, never seen a pro with a plugged and redrilled ball.  Are they allowed for USOpen tourney under the USBC guidance ?

 

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Re: PBA US Open
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2021, 06:01:22 PM »
Sterner had a plugged ball as well . Of course it was legal.

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2021, 06:10:16 PM »
No rule against it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2021, 06:14:26 PM »
Although this is labeled a PBA Major tournament, this tournament is a USBC run tournament, so all USBC rules still apply, meaning, as long as bowling balls are USBC approved and meet all regulations, they can be used in competition.  Hence, Butturff used an old plugged Columbia U2 earlier in the week.

It was a great show, congrats to all who made the show. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2021, 06:17:07 PM »
You can also used plugged on tour

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2021, 02:37:40 PM »
Although this is labeled a PBA Major tournament, this tournament is a USBC run tournament, so all USBC rules still apply, meaning, as long as bowling balls are USBC approved and meet all regulations, they can be used in competition.  Hence, Butturff used an old plugged Columbia U2 earlier in the week.

It was a great show, congrats to all who made the show.

This brings up an interesting question. As this is a USBC tournament, and USBC-approved balls can be used. This means that international balls that are USBC approved could be used, including, for example, any overseas Black Widows (like BW Purple Pearl Urethane), overseas IQ Tours, etc.

Does the PBA have a different approved ball list? and if so, would balls sold overseas that are still USBC approved still be allowed, or would they be sin binned?

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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2021, 03:39:33 PM »
Although this is labeled a PBA Major tournament, this tournament is a USBC run tournament, so all USBC rules still apply, meaning, as long as bowling balls are USBC approved and meet all regulations, they can be used in competition.  Hence, Butturff used an old plugged Columbia U2 earlier in the week.

It was a great show, congrats to all who made the show.

This brings up an interesting question. As this is a USBC tournament, and USBC-approved balls can be used. This means that international balls that are USBC approved could be used, including, for example, any overseas Black Widows (like BW Purple Pearl Urethane), overseas IQ Tours, etc.

Does the PBA have a different approved ball list? and if so, would balls sold overseas that are still USBC approved still be allowed, or would they be sin binned?

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As far as I'm aware they are not allowed.

The only exception applies to Non-US residents and the overseas ball must have an equivalent here in the US.
There's an additional written approval exception but I'm not sure what would qualify for that

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2021, 05:48:48 PM »
Although this is labeled a PBA Major tournament, this tournament is a USBC run tournament, so all USBC rules still apply, meaning, as long as bowling balls are USBC approved and meet all regulations, they can be used in competition.  Hence, Butturff used an old plugged Columbia U2 earlier in the week.

It was a great show, congrats to all who made the show.

This brings up an interesting question. As this is a USBC tournament, and USBC-approved balls can be used. This means that international balls that are USBC approved could be used, including, for example, any overseas Black Widows (like BW Purple Pearl Urethane), overseas IQ Tours, etc.

Does the PBA have a different approved ball list? and if so, would balls sold overseas that are still USBC approved still be allowed, or would they be sin binned?

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As far as I'm aware they are not allowed.

The only exception applies to Non-US residents and the overseas ball must have an equivalent here in the US.
There's an additional written approval exception but I'm not sure what would qualify for that

Thanks for this. All very interesting.

I'd love to see if the arsenals for Yon-Jin Gu and Jun-Yung Kim are still available. They were the two in the title match of the 2010 Scorpion Championship, and both were from South Korea.

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2021, 07:21:03 AM »
Here you go.  Jason Belmonte in this video clearly states he gets to use this overseas ball at the Masters and US Open. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryO0DN7NG5s
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2021, 10:38:41 AM »
Here you go.  Jason Belmonte in this video clearly states he gets to use this overseas ball at the Masters and US Open. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryO0DN7NG5s

Ugh.  Just an ad for a Belmonte "signature" ball.  "Go there now, use this coupon code, and pick one up!"  It's so good he brought his from home to use...when the site he is promoting probably would have just given him a couple of them in exchange for recording the video.  Please.

The Masters and the Open are USBC events, so any USBC approved ball can be used regardless of where it was released. 

Just once I would like to see both a Masters and Open final with all non-PBA players.  It would make it seem that much more accessible/attainable.  Looking at the top 63 of this year's Masters standings after three rounds of qualifying, only 12% were amateurs.  Not very inspiring.  They should have an amateur division and a pro division.

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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2021, 01:52:52 PM »
Amateurs have historically faired well on the masters.  Jason Queen, Brian Boghosian , Brett Wolfe all win as amateurs.  Of course they were getting 450 entries back then.  Many were amateurs

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2021, 04:43:56 PM »
Overseas balls shouldn't be a thing in the first place. Sell them full production or limited release.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2021, 08:43:34 PM »
Different market equals different approach.  Overseas market requires limited/small batches with exclusivity due to the cultural differences in places like Japan and Korea where it's considered disrespectful to see someone else doing well with a ball and then go buy one yourself.  Small batches and constant releases ensures plenty of options to avoid cultural insults or offenses, so it's not a gimmick or sales tactic, even then I'm not sure why they shouldn't be allowed to sell special editions or offer different releases in different parts of the world due to market and/or culture like is done with thousands of other products??

Overseas balls shouldn't be a thing in the first place. Sell them full production or limited release.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2021, 07:21:30 AM »
Overseas balls shouldn't be a thing in the first place. Sell them full production or limited release.

So when a distributor in Asia wants to order 1000 balls but wants them a different color the ball manufacturer should tell them no? 

There is zero R&D that goes into those balls beyond color and name changes.  Pour a couple test balls, throw them, do a production run.  Ball companies aren't in the position to say no because they might wrinkle the feathers of the few people in the U.S. that give a crap, most of which wouldn't buy the ball anyway.

And the last thing distributors here want is more balls.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2021, 07:52:14 AM »
Overseas balls shouldn't be a thing in the first place. Sell them full production or limited release.

So when a distributor in Asia wants to order 1000 balls but wants them a different color the ball manufacturer should tell them no? 

There is zero R&D that goes into those balls beyond color and name changes.  Pour a couple test balls, throw them, do a production run.  Ball companies aren't in the position to say no because they might wrinkle the feathers of the few people in the U.S. that give a crap, most of which wouldn't buy the ball anyway.

And the last thing distributors here want is more balls.

They also need to submit the balls to the USBC, and pay the associated costs, for having them go through the USBC approval process before doing the production run.  Even if it is just a different color or name for an existing design, the USBC requires it be approved.