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Rash vs Belmonte
« on: March 31, 2013, 09:40:18 PM »
I do not know why this happened, but ever since the bottle incidents, I had this bad feeling about Belmonte. I didn't like him; I thought what he did was bad. I thought he did it intentionally no matter what he said to the contrary.

Lately, I'm not sure why but the more I see him, the less I feel positive about Rash.

It reached a culmination today when I watched the TOC. I don't know why but today Rash seemed the ultimate sack of sh*t and Belmonte seemed more like a human being with feelings who was trying to  .. do the right thing?

Probably just an emotion, with no real truth to the matter.
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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2013, 04:50:10 PM »
I'm with Russell... to a point. Rash is honest, but still, from what I know of him, kind of a overinflated douche. Such is the attitude of some pros. Belmonte may be playing us all for suckers with his accent and smile. Who knows. It makes for good tv. Like I care.

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2013, 09:18:40 PM »
I'm with Russell... to a point. Rash is honest, but still, from what I know of him, kind of a overinflated douche. Such is the attitude of some pros. Belmonte may be playing us all for suckers with his accent and smile. Who knows. It makes for good tv. Like I care.

Yes you do, care...  othawise you no post here.  And you played both sides here... "Rash is honest...", "Rash is overinflated douche..." Nice.  And I'm PDW...

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2013, 11:16:53 PM »
Belmo can't do much re the accent comment , seriously the guy is from Australia.. His accent will come across different..

Now I am more curious what Sara Rash said about Belmo??? U gotta love good drama!! Anyone know about this..

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2013, 11:31:34 PM »
This is what Sara Rash posted on her facebook:

After watching yesterday's telecast back, I find it humorous and quite annoying that Jason believes he has gone to the "extreme" to mend his relationship with Sean. Friendships are not based on one's terms and agreements. Try accepting his apology that he has given to you personally, one on one, and stop throwing him under the bus every chance you get.
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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2013, 07:29:54 AM »
This is what Sara Rash posted on her facebook:

After watching yesterday's telecast back, I find it humorous and quite annoying that Jason believes he has gone to the "extreme" to mend his relationship with Sean. Friendships are not based on one's terms and agreements. Try accepting his apology that he has given to you personally, one on one, and stop throwing him under the bus every chance you get.

If she is talking about Rash having personally apologized to Belmonte, then it seems more appropriate for Rash to apologize publicly than privately, because he called Belmonte a "b*tch" in a very public forum.

If you "sin" in public, then you "confess" in public.

That said, I wouldn't expect a wife to publicly do anything but back up her husband. This still doesn't put a positive spin on Rash ongoing behavior. Like PDW, some day he'll grow up.

Being the publicly adored stars, as both Belmonte and Rash think they are, I guess I wouldn't expect either one of them to act any different than we have seen they do on TV. Right now, from all outward appearances, Belmonte is "putting on a better show" than Rash is. This may be why I feel slightly more positive towards Belmonte than Rash, but I can't say I really like either one of them very much as of this moment in time, as a fan.
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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2013, 02:09:48 PM »

I now have to say that at this point, this rivalry eclipses any previous rivalry discussed in this sport.

PDW and Williams have always kept things between themselves and the lanes, and even as hotheaded as PDW gets, at least they've kept it professional. Funny as it sounds, they are now the elder statesmen on tour.

Mika-Shafer may have had words about brooklyns, but that was it. Aulby-Ozio was never like this. Roth-Anthony-Hollman was never like this. Weber-Anthony surely wasn't like this, Hell, in the 90s, Handegard-Stus had a nice one going, but the bulk of these were very professional and friendly competition.

To now have Rash's wife try to get into this, not only turns up the heat in this, but is getting kinda .. well... trashy. I mean, we've never seen Tracy or Paige Pennington take shots in their rivalries or jump into it. Hopefully this doesn't turn into PBA crossed with Jerry Springer crossed with WWE, as entertaining as it may be.

However PDW's page at Wikipedia had this to say, shortly after the PBA was sold in the 2000s:

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The new tour ownership saw Weber's flashiness as a potential tool for marketing the PBA to a new audience. Pete Remarked:

"The new PBA has told me to be animated, and I was already animated to begin with. The new PBA likes me, likes my antics. They think that's what's going to sell the PBA."

No doubt that the PBA are using this rivalry as the new PDW marketing tool; case in point, we're talking about it. ;)

Regarding Belmo's accent, having lived in Australia for 2 years, I came back to the US with that accent. There's nothing really to hide behind with it. What is he going to do, pull a Nicole Kidman and put on a fake Yank accent while in the country? Like Scott Norton, it isn't fair to Belmo to have to put on an act and pretend to be something he isn't just to appease us. It would be like asking the same thing of Amleto, Ruiz, Guerrero, or Vargas.

But also think about it this way..If Belmo is being honest and sincere and a lot of this is coming from Rash, then the rivalry between Rash and Stu Williams lends validity to the attitude problem (?) that Rash has.

In my dealings with both, It all comes down to sense of humour: Aussies are a bit more lackadaisical and slapstick, where the poms are stiff and more dry. that is also reflected in how each one comes across (perception wise). But get them around a pint of beer, and it's all the same.

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2013, 02:15:02 PM »
Oh, I was just saying that his accent will make people believe him more. When you have a pleasant accent, people want to believe you. He's a charmer. Could he be a huge jerk? Could be. But if you had to pick between Jason Belmonte and Sean Rash to date your daughter, which one would you choose?

The charming one.

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2013, 02:33:34 PM »
Oh, I was just saying that his accent will make people believe him more. When you have a pleasant accent, people want to believe you. He's a charmer. Could he be a huge jerk? Could be. But if you had to pick between Jason Belmonte and Sean Rash to date your daughter, which one would you choose?

The charming one.

Good point, and well played. But also on that note, I have absolutely no doubt that Rash could play the Face as well. He's done it before; I remember him inviting that older Black lady to be down in the front row behind him at the tournament when he won his first title, let alone the child that had that medical condition causing him to have soft, easily breakable bones. Seeing what Rash did for both of them shows how much of a nice guy he really can be.

But I wonder if we are all having a show put on for us. I remember seeing an interview with Jack Jurek, when he stated that the guys on tour are like a big family; they all do look out for eachother, even though they are bowling for their homes, family, and food on their plates. I'm pretty sure that if they were driving to the next town and Rash saw Belmo looking under the hood of his car because it broke down, Rash would stop to help.

I mean, really.. yes, the plastic bottle thing was a problem (Angelo even had a problem with it), but how much of this is actually being egged on by the PBA, just for the increase in viewers?

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2013, 04:55:46 PM »
How long ago was the "plastic bottlegate" again?

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2013, 07:04:31 PM »
I think it was the manufacturers tournament prior to the 2011-2012 season from memory..
Storm,Brunswick, Global v each other.. It was great, excellent except for the "take that u bottle b*tch" comment...

Well if Sara Rash has continued it, Belmo certainly hasn't been too smart, by getting onto the whole Rash/Belmo controversary by saying that he has tried everything to have a good relationship.. Very unnecessary, and should have been kept to himself, then again the guys 29yr, still learning lots about life and how to speak to people (inc pre title interviews with PBA), and what not to let out..

Love Belmo's bowling, but something kinda sticks in my throat with his disposition on the lanes.. Fake, sincere, gameplay or just plain cheezy?!?! 

I know at times I may come across as a hot head, even somewhat feral, but away from the lanes, I am far more relaxed and myself..Very even tempered..then again I am not bowling as my living!

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2013, 12:34:45 AM »
Not sure if its been mentioned. But go ready Machugas blog about bowling Belmo in the masters.

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2013, 11:27:24 AM »
Not sure if its been mentioned. But go ready Machugas blog about bowling Belmo in the masters.

Sounds like Machuga's making excuses for losing or "letting Belmo win" as he calls it... LoL!!  He struck after Belmo quit talking where he could hear him... then makes excuses because a little girl, Lord forbid, coughed...  This is what's partially wrong with people nowadays... They want everything their danged way & if they don't get it, they whine like little girls...  Man up.

And here's the link to that blog...  http://www.machugabowling.com/blog/

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2013, 04:23:53 PM »
MP, I think you should read Chug's blog again.  If anyone was making excuses it was the "Wonder from Down Under" who seems totally unable to avoid controversy no matter who he bowls against. 

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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2013, 04:47:39 PM »
The comical part of this is, consider if it were you in the publics eye and a website has posters commenting on you, personally instead upon performance...also, think of this, merely having the ability to perform a certain athletic activity does not automatically make you personable. How many people despise Tiger Woods because of his indiscresions with his personal life or how he acts either on the course or off, yet do not realize he is prolly the greatest athlete of our time? No one is going to like everyone....and quite honestly, quoting Peter Griffith, 'who the hell cares'...they are bowlers, not someone to look up to as individuals...they are not roll models simply because they can strike or have a higher rev rate...or what accent they have...if they are a jerk off. The lanes, chances are they're an ass on the lanes
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Re: Rash vs Belmonte
« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2013, 11:15:37 PM »



In my dealings with both, It all comes down to sense of humour: Aussies are a bit more lackadaisical and slapstick, where the poms are stiff and more dry. that is also reflected in how each one comes across (perception wise). But get them around a pint of beer, and it's all the same.

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It is not!  No self respecting Australian would drink warm beer like an Englishman!!!!!

As for Belmos accent, it is less broad than that of most Australians.  If anything, at the moment, it almost has a slight American inflection to it.