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Seen the new schedule?
« on: June 28, 2011, 02:22:42 PM »

PBA’s 2011-12 Season Begins with World Series of Bowling, Concludes with Tournament of Champions

by Bill Vint June 28, 2011 07:40
SEATTLE – The Professional Bowlers Association World Series of Bowling returns for a third consecutive season, starting a new season of PBA competition that will culminate with the PBA Tournament of Champions in Las Vegas in April.

The new season will get underway with the multi-event PBA World Series of Bowling Nov. 4-20 at South Point Bowling Center in Las Vegas and it will end April 8-15 when the PBA Tournament of Champions returns to Red Rock Lanes. In addition to PBA Regional, Senior, Women’s Series and National Tour title winners who are eligible for the Tournament of Champions, PBA Tour event winners during the 2011-12 season will receive exemptions to advance directly into the 36-player finals field for the 2012 event.

The 2011-12 season will also produce the most extensive online coverage of PBA Tour competition in history, with more than 250 hours of live coverage on pba.com’s Xtra Frame planned, including four new “Xtra Frame Tour” events. Additional details regarding television coverage, tournament formats and more will be announced soon.

2011-12 PBA TOUR SCHEDULE

Nov. 4-20 – Third annual PBA World Series of Bowling (Mark Roth Plastic Ball Championship, World Bowling Tour Finals presented by the PBA, Viper Open, Scorpion Open, Chameleon Open, Carmen Salvino Classic, Earl Anthony Touring Players Championship, Earl Anthony Touring Players Baker Doubles Championship and PBA World Championship), South Point Bowling Center, Las Vegas (Xtra Frame and ESPN).

Jan. 20-22 – PBA Xtra Frame Cheetah Open, Fountain Bowl, Fountain Valley, Calif. (Xtra Frame).

Jan. 23-29 – United States Bowling Congress Masters, Sunset Station, Las Vegas (Xtra Frame and ESPN).

Feb. 3-5 – PBA Xtra Frame Shark Open, Thunderbowl Lanes, Allen Park, Mich. (Xtra Frame)

Feb. 17-19 – PBA Xtra Frame Don Johnson Memorial Open, Sequoia Lanes, Columbus, Ohio (Xtra Frame).

Feb. 20-26 – U.S. Open, Brunswick Zone Carolier, North Brunswick, N.J. (Xtra Frame and ESPN).

March 30-April 1 – Xtra Frame Dick Weber PBA Playoffs, Woodland Bowl, Indianapolis (Xtra Frame).

April 8-15 – PBA Tournament of Champions, Red Rock Lanes, Las Vegas, Nev. (Xtra Frame and ESPN).

 Apparently, there will be four events that are exclusive to the Xtra frame pay service, so if you really want to see them, you will have to fork over some cash IF you don't already have it. As hard as it is to get viewers, sponsors, and publicity, why would you make it harder and more expensive for the people who might want to watch you? Its not like you're the NFL, NBA, or MLB with people standing in line to give you money for goodness sakes.
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 10:37:15 PM »
Pay per view bowling? Start digging the grave, the end is near.

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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2011, 11:52:54 PM »
So they tour 8 locations all across the United States including 3 of those 8 stops in Vegas?
 
Really is that it? Can we take tour out of the tittle and call it the PBA Las Vegas Circuit instead?
 
Lets have over half of the "tournaments" for the season Nov 4-20th in one place, then we will have 3 stops total for the east, and mid west.
 
We also don't want to pay ESPN for all our shows so we will do 4 events as an online pay per view.
 
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Edited by kidlost2000 on 6/28/2011 at 11:53 PM
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 12:15:05 AM »
I would rather pay per view events than pay ESPN to show the finals. Especially if it means the tour gets back to bowling without the gimmicks. Maybe they can get more regional sponsors and build the brand from the ground up. Take ownership back and get it on smaller regional channels. The current TV deal sucks and ESPN has no intention on helping grow the sport so time for something new. I like watching the best in the world bowl and I will watch the PBA on Xtra Frames even if the entire season is on it.

 

If anyone has a better idea on how to keep the tour on national TV please post it or send it to the PBA and help promote the sport.
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Re: Seen the new schedule?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2011, 04:45:13 AM »
I thought the USBC Masters was to be bowled at the location of the USBC Open Championship every year 2 weeks prior to the Open starting.

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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2011, 05:10:47 AM »
Once again they come nowhere near the Southeast.  Live in a town with about 5 million people and in the 28 years I have lived here, the National Tour has been here less than 5 times.  I will give the Tour a few more years and then they fall to the same fate as the Ladies Tour.



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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2011, 07:48:17 AM »

 I give it two years at the very most.....looks like Robert Smith was a genius for taking the Honk Kong gig when he did.
TWOHAND834 wrote on 6/29/2011 5:10 AM:
Once again they come nowhere near the Southeast.  Live in a town with about 5 million people and in the 28 years I have lived here, the National Tour has been here less than 5 times.  I will give the Tour a few more years and then they fall to the same fate as the Ladies Tour.



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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2011, 08:10:50 AM »
As a fan and former PBA member I try to support the PBA but I don't have a clue what they're doing these days. Maybe I'm getting too old but this isn't professional bowling like I remember.

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2011, 09:03:33 AM »
There almost isn't enough events to support being a full time profession. You have 12 events and that is it. They don't travel, the have become a regional event for the Vegas area and can't put all of there tournaments on television.
 
I'm all for innovations and trying to expand things but this has been a steady contraction the past few years with an end in sight.  End of an era.


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Edited by kidlost2000 on 6/29/2011 at 1:01 PM
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2011, 12:29:18 PM »
I think I actually counted 16 events. There are going to be 9 events between the 4th and 20th, then the other 7 events, of which 4 are xtra frame shows.

 

 I used to love watching the pros go at it. They were the best, and there was nothing better than that one-on-one, last man standing playoff on Saturday's.

 

 Now, were down to 16 events, 9 of which won't be "live", and 4 that will be "pay-per-view", leaving only the 3 "major" events to be televised during actual lane play.

 

 If I were an outsider looking in, exacttly how am I supposed to be enticed and drawn in to the world of bowling by having, what would appear to an outsider, 3 random televised events with people I haven't had enough exposure to to even know who they are or who to root for? And how are you supposed to generate interest from perspective new sponsors if you have little, or NOTHING, to offer them? Sponsors aren't interested in advertising to a small audience and won't be enthused about events televised to such a limited "pay-per-view" audience that xtra frame is going to offer.

 

 Yes, all of us know who they are, but we would've been watching anyway. How is this going to draw in new people or even remotely interest them? That's who needs to be reached, not all of us hardcore types who are already here.

 

 R.I.P. PBA. I would say I would miss you, but I think I'll miss my memory of how you were more.
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2011, 01:08:49 PM »
Part of the problem is they have lost many of the more hardcore fans with stupid inconsistent shows the past two years. I no longer watch. I forgot it exist on Sundays because of football. I never missed a show on Saturday mornings. 
 
The only benefit is as a tour player the Nov 4th-20th being in one place saves you some money on travel . Then the next event isn't til close to the end of January. Season just started then you get nearly a two month break? Wow, better win early.


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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2011, 06:22:34 PM »
Instead of whining on here all the time about this, have any of you actually written the PBA and ESPN about your concerns?



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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2011, 09:37:19 PM »
I heard an interviewer say that it was not possible because of some timing problems due to the time it took to install the lanes and when the convention center was available.


Phoneman wrote on 6/29/2011 4:45 AM:I thought the USBC Masters was to be bowled at the location of the USBC Open Championship every year 2 weeks prior to the Open starting.






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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2011, 10:33:37 PM »

  Why should we? They won't even listen to their most prominent members, and you know as well as I do that they are going to do da*n well whatever they please with no regards to anyones advice or criticism.

 

 Oh wait, that's right, no criticism of the PBA allowed. They don't put up with that.



Sunshine n Lollipops wrote on 6/29/2011 6:22 PM:
Instead of whining on here all the time about this, have any of you actually written the PBA and ESPN about your concerns?



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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2011, 07:01:12 AM »
"SEEN" the new schedule?  Man that is one of my biggest pet peevs, the use of seen here just makes my skin crawl!
 
Anyway, I paid to watch extra frames last season and I probably will again once the season begins.  It's interesting and I found that match play is better than watching the finals in many cases!  I think they just need to step up the video quality a little.  It's good, but not great....
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