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fluff33

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Straighter is Greater
« on: February 14, 2010, 07:23:49 AM »
Way to Go WRW!!!! Another illustration of straighter is greater.  47 titles, 8 majors. And still going strong at age 50.

 

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Re: Straighter is Greater
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2010, 01:25:52 AM »
I don't think anyone wrote Barnes bowled bad.  He didn't have the carry and that was due to his entry angle more than anything.  Was that due to the ball, the way he released it, the line he took on the lane, and/or speed is up for discussion.  However, one only had to observe the way WRW's ball was rolling through the pin deck to see that he wasn't going to leave anything.  I'll have to watch it more closely but from causal observation his ball was running over the 9 pin.

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Re: Straighter is Greater
« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2010, 02:42:37 AM »
Barnes is a great bowler, just not on a TV final. LOL
Heck people probably beat him bowling 220+ on the TV shows.
I want to see a Norm Duke vs WRWJ vs Barns all playing down and in.

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Re: Straighter is Greater
« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2010, 05:05:45 AM »
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You realize best of 5 is only 3 games right?


I think you mean first to 3 games, genius.
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Re: Straighter is Greater
« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2010, 06:57:54 AM »
Great win for Walter Ray!  Barnes will get his wins just ran into a train named Walter Ray.  Second guessing Chris and saying that he should have made a move, with Walter Ray throwing a 290 even if Chris had made a move in the match it would have been too late.  You don't get the 1st seed in two straight majors without being a versatile bowler with skills.  Arm chair bowlers are not different than arm chair quarterbacks, quick to think they know better than the  the pros how to play the lanes.  

I know I don't have the ability to play the lanes with the pros, but it appears that there are several of you who think you can play the lanes better than Barnes and others.  One question why don't you shoe it up????

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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2010, 07:15:27 AM »
I like what they said about Chris Barnes. you might beat him in a 1 game match. But if you have to play him 3 games or more watch out. He will kick your butt.

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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2010, 07:17:49 AM »
I would imagine Barney's ego had taken a hit or two.  First he gets beat by a girl, then he gets beat by an old fart.  I agree that the Dude can bowl, but Dude...a girl...and an old man...Dude.  

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Re: Straighter is Greater
« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2010, 07:19:45 AM »
for those of u not sure if CB is versatile


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6OfqXA-0SM&feature=grec

CB practicing in japan, going back and forth and changing balls
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« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2010, 07:47:34 AM »
although i dont disagree with where barnes played the lane yesterday i would have like to see him at least try a full swing so he wouldve gotten a little earlier reaction and maybe pull his BP in and maybe stop ringing 10 pins. or maybe take a cool noize and move out where walter ray was. idk, maybe he tried those in practice.
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« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2010, 08:26:33 AM »
Barnes may be the best bowler out there, but he needs to prove it on sunday. The last two games bowled against him on sundays was 265 and 290. Hard to beat those scores.

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« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2010, 08:28:08 AM »
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o.k. so chris barnes is versatile...and if he is then he would do what it takes to win!!!!obviously his line wasnt working and wrw line was....so why not jump on that line or similiar and keep up the scoring pace and keep it close????no shame on playing where the ball is scoring well huh????
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Spoken like a true house hack...sorry you guys that say stuff like this are complete idiots.

- In a one game match you don't move 20 right with your feet because of a wrap 10

- He lost when he left the first 4 pin

- You're an idiot
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Plus 1.....he practiced on that line for 10 minutes an obviously thought carry looked good and formulated his plan of attack.

When the lights go on all it takes is a touch of tension in the swing or grip to start dinging corners.

But you NEVER, NEVER completely change things in a one game match. Especially when your opponent has a good line to the pocket.

But I am sure you guys already knew that.  

Did you see the documentary show earlier this year where Ciminelli and Duke squared off? Ciminelli started leaving corners as Duke was chipping into his lead and so decided to switch to a resin.

What did Duke say???

"I knew he was done when he switched balls". And that was a multiple game final.


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Re: Straighter is Greater
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2010, 08:46:19 AM »
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You realize best of 5 is only 3 games right?


I think you mean first to 3 games, genius.
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« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2010, 08:56:08 AM »
To answer the OP.

Straighter is greater if that's what the shot calls for.  

Straighter is not greater if the outsides are unplayable because they're either too slick or too dry.

Bowling is about playing the lanes the way they should be played (as it suits one's particular game), whether it be from the twig, lofting the gutter cap, or anywhere in between.  

In other words, whatever line is getting you to the pocket with a good angle of entry is the way to go (naturally, this requires one to be versatile, and just about all of the pros are, including WRW).

Walter has won several tourneys playing the outside line (perhaps the high majority of his wins), but he has also won quite a few playing more in on the lanes because he didn't have a good look outside of the track area.

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« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2010, 09:25:09 AM »
Yesterday, Barnes got beat. Period. He threw the ball well, stayed with his game plan, and got some bad carry/breaks. However, he'd be the first to tell you that carry is everything.

Two weeks ago, it was obvious from the first shot against Kelly that he was confused, lost, and he LOST that match. Yes, Kelly would have beaten him in score. But I think that he mentally handed the match to her.

Barnes is the best technician out there. He's got one of the most versatile games out there. Unfortunately, it seems that he thinks his work week is Monday through Friday (saturday is for pro-ams) - and he takes a lot of Sundays off.
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« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2010, 10:07:44 AM »
TV shots usually transition quickly. When you want to take the lanes out of the equation for your spare shots you go straighter. The same thing applies to your strike ball. If lanes are changing quickly, simpler is better in a one game match.

How do I know that is true? The guys and gals that follow that approach have more TV wins

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« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2010, 10:13:16 AM »
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Yesterday, Barnes got beat. Period. He threw the ball well, stayed with his game plan, and got some bad carry/breaks. However, he'd be the first to tell you that carry is everything.

Two weeks ago, it was obvious from the first shot against Kelly that he was confused, lost, and he LOST that match. Yes, Kelly would have beaten him in score. But I think that he mentally handed the match to her.

Barnes is the best technician out there. He's got one of the most versatile games out there. Unfortunately, it seems that he thinks his work week is Monday through Friday (saturday is for pro-ams) - and he takes a lot of Sundays off.

 


+1...Excellent post and well said mumzie...
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