Author Topic: Todays show: Spoiler alert.. (Read 37050 times)

jkiser01 · « **on:** December 30, 2012, 01:44:19 PM »

I really have no issues with Scott Norton and him being gay but do they have to show his "spouse" every other shot? They never give the wife of someone on the show that much airtime, never. I was to the point of turning off the show and then at the end when his partner came out of the audience and they kissed on TV, I thought that was not in very good taste for a show on Sunday afternoon that a lot of kids watch. That is going to be fun to try to explain to children in several age ranges.

I just think ESPN went a tad bit overboard with all that today.

stc067 · « **Reply #76 on:** December 31, 2012, 09:33:48 PM »

Quote from: Long Gone Daddy on December 31, 2012, 03:51:29 PM

This ignorance and intolerance is pervasive thru our entire society, not just bowling. It's just bowlers, or at least the ones I know, never broached the subject as they only cared how a guy acted and bowled on the lanes. None of this other stuff mattered. Guess that's why our society is getting to be more and more of a joke.

It's really kind of surprising to me that here on the last day of 2012,that a gay bowler merits six pages of discussion.I thought we were past this as a society.

northface28 · « **Reply #77 on:** December 31, 2012, 09:49:11 PM »

Quote from: stc067 on December 31, 2012, 09:33:48 PM

Quote from: Long Gone Daddy on December 31, 2012, 03:51:29 PM
This ignorance and intolerance is pervasive thru our entire society, not just bowling. It's just bowlers, or at least the ones I know, never broached the subject as they only cared how a guy acted and bowled on the lanes. None of this other stuff mattered. Guess that's why our society is getting to be more and more of a joke.

It's really kind of surprising to me that here on the last day of 2012,that a gay bowler merits six pages of discussion.I thought we were past this as a society.

You would think, but the internet is the supreme sounding board for a lot of these bigots to remain shrouded in anonymity.

cav · « **Reply #78 on:** December 31, 2012, 10:12:47 PM »

Quote from: northface28 on December 31, 2012, 09:49:11 PM

Quote from: stc067 on December 31, 2012, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: Long Gone Daddy on December 31, 2012, 03:51:29 PM
This ignorance and intolerance is pervasive thru our entire society, not just bowling. It's just bowlers, or at least the ones I know, never broached the subject as they only cared how a guy acted and bowled on the lanes. None of this other stuff mattered. Guess that's why our society is getting to be more and more of a joke.

It's really kind of surprising to me that here on the last day of 2012,that a gay bowler merits six pages of discussion.I thought we were past this as a society.
AS long as we include the bigots against christian Tim....tebow
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Cav
You would think, but the internet is the supreme sounding board for a lot of these bigots to remain shrouded in anonymity.

Buckwild · « **Reply #79 on:** January 01, 2013, 12:41:38 AM »

Doesn't matter if you hated the kiss or liked it, bottom line is the show was 90 minutes long and the kiss lasted a millisecond. There shouldn't be this big a deal made about it. Yes, I admit, I was taken aback for a brief moment when I saw it, but it was quickly forgotten. To the posters that said ESPN is promoting gayness with showing the kiss, you're wrong. If they showed it on Sportscenter 1.5 billion times and Steven A. and Skip Bayless gave us their "opinion", then you have a valid point.

rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #80 on:** January 01, 2013, 01:01:41 AM »

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If Steven A. and Skip Bayless gave us their "opinion", then you have a valid point.

PLEASE don't give these guys any ideas.

stc067 · « **Reply #81 on:** January 01, 2013, 02:49:38 AM »

Quote from: rockerbowler18 on January 01, 2013, 01:01:41 AM

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If Steven A. and Skip Bayless gave us their "opinion", then you have a valid point.

PLEASE don't give these guys any ideas.

I just don"t want to hear what Wilbon,Cornheiser,or heaven forbid,Rome's opinion on the subject.

kidlost2000 · « **Reply #82 on:** January 01, 2013, 06:31:04 AM »

If you don't want to hear sports talks opinions on something then don't watch or tune in. They get paid to talk sports. That is the only chance that bowling is likely to be brought up on any of those shows because it will not be due to the actual bowling.

Bowlers are bowlings only demographic. No one else in the sports world cares.

Arone24 · « **Reply #83 on:** January 01, 2013, 07:24:33 AM »

Quote from: Long Gone Daddy on December 31, 2012, 08:31:58 PM

Yeah, tool, and there are gay men playing football in the NFL, baseball in the majors, hockey, basketball, EVERY SPORT. Your analogy is found to be lacking.

Quote from: Arone24 on December 31, 2012, 05:04:56 PM
Ignorant huh? Well just why is bowling a "niche sport" Why can't it be more?? Im sure at some point in history a game called football that you played with your hands was a niche as well. Everyone in here bashes ESPN for their coverage and when I make a comment about mentioning someones sexual preference being inappropriate suddenly they are Gods gift to bowling. I think CSS does a much better job with college bowling than ESPN with the PBA.

ONCE AGAIN I STATE: I have no problem with the kiss! I find it sick but I realize ESPN would be discriminating to have stopped it or edited it. However, they did not have to put him on a pedestal because "he recently came out of the closet" or however they put it. You can call me ignorant, conservative, Christian or what ever you wanna call me but sexual preference should not ever be mentioned in a PBA telecast.

My analogy is that you don't hear ESPN going and interviewing NFL MLB NBA players on the sidelines about being gay! Can you not read? For the FORTH and final time the issue is not Scott being gay or even him kissing his "husband!" the issue I have is that ESPN treated his coming out the same way they treated Belmo's televised 300! Go back and watch the recording. They went into the two interviews the same way. They treated his coming out the way they treat everyone else's milestones of their career! Why not go back 2010 title or some of his other accomplishments instead of coming out of the closet?

Long Gone Daddy · « **Reply #84 on:** January 01, 2013, 08:36:51 AM »

Please, your pathetic backtracking is nauseating. Now you don't have a problem with them kissing (even though it's sick in your words), you just have a problem with ESPN. No, bigot, no. YOU go back and watch. In your mind they are doing that because that is what you want to see because that is how you think. Newsflash, Scott Norton is the first man in a relatively popular sport and regulary televised to come out in a long time. Last one to do it was Greg Louganis in Olympic diving. So they ask him about it because it takes GUTS knowing that he'll face the howls and indignation of bigots like you.

Quote from: Arone24 on January 01, 2013, 07:24:33 AM

Quote from: Long Gone Daddy on December 31, 2012, 08:31:58 PM
Yeah, tool, and there are gay men playing football in the NFL, baseball in the majors, hockey, basketball, EVERY SPORT. Your analogy is found to be lacking.

Quote from: Arone24 on December 31, 2012, 05:04:56 PM
Ignorant huh? Well just why is bowling a "niche sport" Why can't it be more?? Im sure at some point in history a game called football that you played with your hands was a niche as well. Everyone in here bashes ESPN for their coverage and when I make a comment about mentioning someones sexual preference being inappropriate suddenly they are Gods gift to bowling. I think CSS does a much better job with college bowling than ESPN with the PBA.

ONCE AGAIN I STATE: I have no problem with the kiss! I find it sick but I realize ESPN would be discriminating to have stopped it or edited it. However, they did not have to put him on a pedestal because "he recently came out of the closet" or however they put it. You can call me ignorant, conservative, Christian or what ever you wanna call me but sexual preference should not ever be mentioned in a PBA telecast.

My analogy is that you don't hear ESPN going and interviewing NFL MLB NBA players on the sidelines about being gay! Can you not read? For the FORTH and final time the issue is not Scott being gay or even him kissing his "husband!" the issue I have is that ESPN treated his coming out the same way they treated Belmo's televised 300! Go back and watch the recording. They went into the two interviews the same way. They treated his coming out the way they treat everyone else's milestones of their career! Why not go back 2010 title or some of his other accomplishments instead of coming out of the closet?

CubsFan · « **Reply #85 on:** January 01, 2013, 08:44:44 AM »

Quote from: Long Gone Daddy on January 01, 2013, 08:36:51 AM

Please, your pathetic backtracking is nauseating. Now you don't have a problem with them kissing (even though it's sick in your words), you just have a problem with ESPN. No, bigot, no. YOU go back and watch. In your mind they are doing that because that is what you want to see because that is how you think. Newsflash, Scott Norton is the first man in a relatively popular sport and regulary televised to come out in a long time. Last one to do it was Greg Louganis in Olympic diving. So they ask him about it because it takes GUTS knowing that he'll face the howls and indignation of bigots like you.

Quote from: Arone24 on January 01, 2013, 07:24:33 AM
Quote from: Long Gone Daddy on December 31, 2012, 08:31:58 PM
Yeah, tool, and there are gay men playing football in the NFL, baseball in the majors, hockey, basketball, EVERY SPORT. Your analogy is found to be lacking.

Quote from: Arone24 on December 31, 2012, 05:04:56 PM
Ignorant huh? Well just why is bowling a "niche sport" Why can't it be more?? Im sure at some point in history a game called football that you played with your hands was a niche as well. Everyone in here bashes ESPN for their coverage and when I make a comment about mentioning someones sexual preference being inappropriate suddenly they are Gods gift to bowling. I think CSS does a much better job with college bowling than ESPN with the PBA.

ONCE AGAIN I STATE: I have no problem with the kiss! I find it sick but I realize ESPN would be discriminating to have stopped it or edited it. However, they did not have to put him on a pedestal because "he recently came out of the closet" or however they put it. You can call me ignorant, conservative, Christian or what ever you wanna call me but sexual preference should not ever be mentioned in a PBA telecast.

My analogy is that you don't hear ESPN going and interviewing NFL MLB NBA players on the sidelines about being gay! Can you not read? For the FORTH and final time the issue is not Scott being gay or even him kissing his "husband!" the issue I have is that ESPN treated his coming out the same way they treated Belmo's televised 300! Go back and watch the recording. They went into the two interviews the same way. They treated his coming out the way they treat everyone else's milestones of their career! Why not go back 2010 title or some of his other accomplishments instead of coming out of the closet?

Had ESPN not addressed the issue it would have been to ignore the 5 ton elephant in the room. If Norton makes another telecast and they treat it the same way I would agree it now becomes cheap exploitation. Hopefully moving forward they focus on his bowling and his lifestyle becomes a non-factor.

Arone24 · « **Reply #86 on:** January 01, 2013, 09:15:50 AM »

Backtracking? No I still find the kiss disgusting and morally wrong as well but I won't go there. However, that is just my opinion. Guts? Guts is bowling with gout! Everyone on tour knew he was gay. You'd have to be blind and deaf around him to think otherwise. Now it takes "guts" to state the obvious?

So let me guess you think his "gutsy" coming out is a milestone in his bowling career? Equivalent of Belmo's televised 300?? Both of those notables were presented in the same fashion.

Heck let's go ahead and put him in the Bowling Hall of Fame for his Gutsy coming out. Bottom line: The guy bowled his tail off. Let's talk about his winning strategy or his practice routine or why he used storm products all through qualifying before going with C300 on the show instead of his sexual preference. I am done with this topic. We could argue about right or wrong until 2014 and our opinions and convictions would still differ.

Long Gone Daddy · « **Reply #87 on:** January 01, 2013, 10:15:40 AM »

The guy bowled his tail off. Let's talk about his winning strategy or his practice routine or why he used storm products all through qualifying before going with C300

Yeah, let's bigot. You are one of the ones who chimed in about everything but the above. Bowling with GOUT? Really? Would that be you? Who the hell cares about you? You're not on television bowling. You're right about this topic being done. I've wasted more time than I can believe on somebody like you I wouldn't normally give the time of day.

tommyboy74 · « **Reply #88 on:** January 01, 2013, 12:50:23 PM »

Quote from: Long Gone Daddy on January 01, 2013, 10:15:40 AM

The guy bowled his tail off. Let's talk about his winning strategy or his practice routine or why he used storm products all through qualifying before going with C300

Yeah, let's bigot. You are one of the ones who chimed in about everything but the above. Bowling with GOUT? Really? Would that be you? Who the hell cares about you? You're not on television bowling. You're right about this topic being done. I've wasted more time than I can believe on somebody like you I wouldn't normally give the time of day.

The reason Scott was throwing C300 and Hammer is because he signed a 4 brand contract with EBI right before the show. He left Motiv and had been throwing whatever he wanted (Storm) through qualifying.

Arone24 · « **Reply #89 on:** January 01, 2013, 04:49:31 PM »

Quote from: Long Gone Daddy on January 01, 2013, 10:15:40 AM

The guy bowled his tail off. Let's talk about his winning strategy or his practice routine or why he used storm products all through qualifying before going with C300

Yeah, let's bigot. You are one of the ones who chimed in about everything but the above. Bowling with GOUT? Really? Would that be you? Who the hell cares about you? You're not on television bowling. You're right about this topic being done. I've wasted more time than I can believe on somebody like you I wouldn't normally give the time of day.

Haha are you kidding me?

Really?!?? You wasting your time? Evidently I'm the one wasting my time arguing about something that happened on a telecast with a person who hasn't even seen it! If you had seen it you wouldve known that Fawaz Abdulla (who Scott bowled against in the first match) showed up on crutches because of a severe Gout outbreak in his right foot! The interview in question also took place during THIS match.

So, next time before you jump to conclusions and call me a bigot I ask that you please at least know the facts.

Arone24 · « **Reply #90 on:** January 01, 2013, 05:07:18 PM »

Thanks Tommy Boy I figured it was something like that.

So, really why didn't ESPN even discuss that? I would think that would be more pertinent to bowling than his sexual orientation. I guess signing a contract with a major manufacturer isn't that important. I'm sure there are other things like that they could've hit on as well but ESPN chose his coming out over it all. That's my complaint and has been from the get go. Why skip details like that and then report things in his personal life.

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