Author Topic: Two questions.............. (Read 3583 times)

nd300 · « **on:** November 26, 2007, 04:39:29 AM »

1. Are the pins specially made for the PBA telecasts??I noticed a PBA logo on the pins during the show yesterday?Are they different than what we use in league/tournaments??
2.Are the pros told what pattern they'll be on during the coming week or do they have to adjust in the dark???
Thanks for the replies...........
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pop_1 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 26, 2007, 12:43:13 PM »

They know the pattern for the week. I am not sure if the pins are specially made for them though.

Dan Belcher · « **Reply #2 on:** November 26, 2007, 12:43:48 PM »

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2.Are the pros told what pattern they'll be on during the coming week or do they have to adjust in the dark???

You can actually see the event schedule on PBA.com, and it lists which oil pattern they will be on each week for the entire season. http://www.pba.com/schedule/schedule.asp?season=55 For example, according to this schedule, they're on the Cheetah pattern next week.

shelley · « **Reply #3 on:** November 26, 2007, 12:52:17 PM »

The patterns are set at the beginning of the season. They are tweaked a little before the tournament to account for the individual center's lane characteristics.

They probably have a few cases of PBA-branded pins that they use for the telecast. A while back, late '90s, maybe early '00s, they had gold (painted) pins. They were on the heavier side of regulation but still legal for ordinary competition. The current pins are probably not much different from any other pin.

I would guess they use whatever pins the center has already for the main part of the tournament. It would be expensive to cart around dozens or hundreds of cases of pins everywhere.

SH

J_Mac · « **Reply #4 on:** November 26, 2007, 02:31:20 PM »

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I would guess they use whatever pins the center has already for the main part of the tournament. It would be expensive to cart around dozens or hundreds of cases of pins everywhere.

SH

They already have one semi full of bowling equipment for the pro's that are willing to pay for the space. I could see them having another truck for 64 cases of pins, they don't take up that much room.
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darth_big_ern · « **Reply #5 on:** November 26, 2007, 02:35:04 PM »

1. The PBA does have their own pins, but they only use them on the TV shows. During the week, they use the bowling center's pins. I am not sure if they are unique to the PBA, such as how much they weight.
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shelley · « **Reply #6 on:** November 26, 2007, 02:40:41 PM »

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They already have one semi full of bowling equipment for the pro's that are willing to pay for the space. I could see them having another truck for 64 cases of pins, they don't take up that much room.

They have a semi with space for rent. Rent is positive cash flow, whether it offsets the costs or not. Probably it's priced to at least break even. The other truck, the player services truck, is available on a for-pay basis as well. They want balls drilled or finished, they pay for it. That paying helps offset the cost of the truck, the driver, the trailer, gas, insurance, and all of the things semi trucks involve.

A truck full of pins would require not only pins (which would have to be replaced over time) but a driver, truck, trailer, gas, and all that other stuff. They'd have to charge the centers to use their pins. They already charge a lot of money just to host the tournament. Using the PBA's pins, they'd have to unload their own pins from the pinsetters, store them, put the PBA pins in, take 'em out, replace their own pins. Lots of effort for what are basically standardized pins with the PBA logo on them. Unlikely the bowlers are going to forget they're at a PBA tournament, unlikely the audience will forget. They don't need PBA pins to remind anyone.

I don't think a truck full of pins would happen.

SH

BrianCRX90 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 26, 2007, 05:01:49 PM »

If the PBA was smart, they would use tougher, heavier pins and have them colored like the gold pins was. Only difference though is to use them during the whole tournament. No matter what tough pattern is used out there, the public knowing that the PBA uses tougher pins that the league bowler does not use makes the tour look tougher.

Luke909 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 26, 2007, 05:05:47 PM »

21 pins per machine. That is alot of pins too cart around. Then you have too account for pins that get busted up.
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Necromancer · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2007, 01:04:41 PM »

quote:
1. Are the pins specially made for the PBA telecasts??I noticed a PBA logo on the pins during the show yesterday?Are they different than what we use in league/tournaments??
2.Are the pros told what pattern they'll be on during the coming week or do they have to adjust in the dark???
Thanks for the replies...........
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Chris
Lane#1--nothing else hits like 'em.

Yeah they know. From the tournaments I've been too, they show you the exact oil diagram/layout like 15 minutes before bowling. You know what board has the oil and what doesn't and know the density and how far each board has oil.
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Necromancer · « **Reply #10 on:** November 27, 2007, 01:06:45 PM »

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If the PBA was smart, they would use tougher, heavier pins and have them colored like the gold pins was. Only difference though is to use them during the whole tournament. No matter what tough pattern is used out there, the public knowing that the PBA uses tougher pins that the league bowler does not use makes the tour look tougher.

Worst idea ever! That is why the gold pins didn't last. It is like making a basketball hoop smaller or a football endzone filled with poison ivy. It breaks the sport and makes it stupid.

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Columbia 300 SuperBeast
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Brunswick Target Spare Zone
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
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Crankenstein300 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 27, 2007, 01:07:27 PM »

The pins are used for the TV pairs only and the one we have here is simply a PBA logo sticker on a run of the mill Brunswick pin. They also have them to sell during the week.

nd300 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 27, 2007, 06:00:16 PM »

Thanks for all of the replies.Great information and something I didn't know about but had always wanted to ask.
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MVbowler · « **Reply #13 on:** November 27, 2007, 08:50:29 PM »

Also... Exempt pros are allowed to keep 12 balls on the truck courtesy of PBA.
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