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I can't breathe......
« on: November 11, 2007, 05:10:26 AM »
cuz I'm choking like Chris Barnes......anyone want to defend him choking AGAIN on TV?  I know I'm not good enough to be on TV, but it's his job.  He needs to man up and make a shot for once in his life.  Maybe he should have tried going brooklyn.  a brooklyn strike won him $200k in the Motel 6 even a couple of years ago.  MOST OVERRATED PLAYER EVER!

 

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Re: I can't breathe......
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2007, 08:53:47 PM »
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Russell...when did I ever say I was ready to bowl on TV because I average a little over 200?  The point of my post was to say I THINK barnes is over rated and has tendencies to choke on TV.  

Russell, have you ever complained when the kicker on your team missed a field goal?  or when a QB throws an INT?  I'm sure you have.  It's the same as me talking about Barnes.  You have never been a kicker in college/NFL, or a QB in college/NFL, just like I've never bowled on TV. So make sure you don't EVER make a comment about them or you will be a complete hypocrite..  

The post was meant to start a discussion on Barnes and his problems with TV.  If others have reasons why they think Barnes isn't choking or why he isn't over rated I'd love to hear them.  I like hearing others opinions.

I have been in a few title matches in local tournaments, and I have made good shots to win tournaments, and I have choked like Barnes.  There's nothing wrong with a player choking once in a while, it happens to everyone.  But it just happens to Barnes more than others.

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No...you just made a very childish arrogant post about someone making a poor shot for the cheese.

I'm only assuming that you must have come through in the same situation if you're running your little pie hole about it....

No...I don't get mad at athletes.  I understand that they are human...just like me.  They are not perfect....nor am I.  People like you that do need to go look in the mirror and realize you have a problem.
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Re: I can't breathe......
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2007, 09:38:26 PM »

 The best thing about Barnes is his little pouty face. Looks like he's gonna cry like a little kid. Funny!






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Re: I can't breathe......
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2007, 09:51:06 PM »
Anyone know where to buy some chill pills?

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Re: I can't breathe......
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2007, 02:19:26 PM »
Good post, timely,  very suprised some of you are arguing why it is being asked. Chris Barnes is hands down one of the best out there. He is mega versatile. With that being stated he has literally choked numerous times. Is he overrated, no the talent is there and very plain to see. In the clutch he is not the man I want pulling the trigger for a championship. I totally agree with George on this as he tries to be too perfect at times. Many greats in all sports have had pitfalls no matter how good they were.(are)
 Ask most pro's who's release they would most like and many say PDW's yet he has been getting owned by WRW for some time now in match play. Talent aside it comes down to situations. Chris unfortunately for him has been the fly more than the swatter. For many who have watched the tour for a long time there was a young lefty who made many shows and kept getting owned or choking. His time came and he reeled off numerous titles and is still a good player but injuries and family have taken a toll on him.(PBIII) Will it happen for Chris, don't know I think his time will come but we are a today society and results are now. And the cheese he went after must have been too big a bite this time as it choked him bad.


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Re: I can't breathe......
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2007, 05:42:35 PM »
Sorry, but he is definitely overrated! I mean, he definitely has the talent. That is not the debate. But do you not rank bowlers overall with titles? The fact that he cannot get it done on tv makes him overrated!

And the replies of no one is able to say anything cause they have never made tv is stupid! That means you could never criticize any thing from any sport. You then can't say that the Royals are terrible in baseball. Or the Dolphins are the worst team in the NFL. Or this certain player sucks! Why? Cause have you ever played for the MLB, or in the NFL? Nope! So dumb...
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Re: I can't breathe......
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2007, 05:45:53 PM »
Chris missed his shot big time not even close as far as Walter Ray he was in the pocket all day got robbed on solid 8's quite a few times could not have thrown a better ball . Give credit to Mr Wolf great bowling
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Re: I can't breathe......
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2007, 07:47:07 PM »
It's real easy to criticize from the couch.
Here another way to look at it. Barnes has so many options to hit the pocket that in a one game crap shoot, maybe he made a choice that didn't give him the extra room to cover up a mistake.  Here is another thought, what if he catches a break on a solid hit early or breaks up a split. That changes the complexion of the game in the end, too. A player like Barnes will always have an advantage in a longer format of games because when gets in a groove, he won't miss much.
You can't rag on the guys' talent, ability or TV record, he's excellent. Definitely top 5 out there.
Remeber 2 weeks ago Rash won. This kid has all of the tools to be great, but he had a plank of area to cover the mistake. Throw in an early Brook and a trip 4 and he's on his way to a 269. Change those to 9 spares and he loses a close game. Make them big 4's, the game is over in the seventh.
It's one game, anything can happen.
My record sucked, too. 12 wins 18 losses. Sometimes a bad break at the wrong time. Sometimes a bad shot at the wrong time. Sometimes just caught the guy who got the big break. Sometimes caught the lefty when they were "supposed" to win. Many times, had to win 3 or 4 games to the title. The odds are against you doing that too often.
When all of you armchair bowlers get in that situation, let's see how good you throw it.

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Re: I can't breathe......
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2007, 09:52:16 PM »
Well, said Joe... I remember for a stretch that Norm Duke couldn't win a match on T.V. I also remember seeing him get lucky to win a couple of titles. Same for Walter Ray. I just saw a title match where Joe Firpo really got hosed on two great shots. Left a stone eight and then left a four pin for the money on what I thought was a great shot. As they say s**t happens.

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Re: I can't breathe......
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2007, 10:25:43 PM »
I'd also like to add that I agree Barnes is a great bowler.  I was just saying people crowned him the next great thing before he proved himself.  Once he gets his nerves figured out, he could easily be a Top 2-3 bowler.  

I know a lot of people talk about how Tommy Jones and Rash make poor shots but they get lucky and still strike or don't leave a split.  A big part of bowling is finding a place to play where you have the most room to miss.  It's great to show that you can play a tight part of the lane, but if you can't find an area on the lane with forgiveness, you should take advantage of it.  That's what Jones and Rash do.