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Richie Allen......where's his class?
« on: January 22, 2006, 05:53:46 AM »
I personally was sick to my stomach looking at Richie Allen with his thug look. That kid needs to grow up and show some class. I mean you know you're on TV today so why try to look like a thug? Just my opinion which is worth little to nothing but I have bowled at a regional tourney with Allen in the field and they made him remove his headband. You would think the mother tour would do the same.
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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2006, 12:34:30 PM »
I think the look is refreshing as long as he respects the game and its history which I think he does.
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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2006, 12:43:07 PM »
I don't think he has enough.  I think he needs a nice sleeve.
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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2006, 12:45:37 PM »
I will not comment on the post, but in general, the users were talking on here last week about why the pros don't come here/post here anymore, and lots of it has to do with the bashing that goes on. Here we go again....not that I agree with showing tattoos, as I do not have one, but if the PBA permits it, so be it. I was bowling a regional a few years back...I had on a KO Punch Track collar shirt, and if you remember, on the back, there were a pair of boxing gloves on the yoke...where they were putting the sponsors of the individual players at that time. I was called aside in practice and told if I wore a shirt to the actual tourney and it had something on the yoke, I would be fined a minimum of $100....so in my opinion, if this was at the regional level and they are this strict, it has to be that way for them, if not worse.....

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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2006, 02:47:15 PM »
Hey guys,

Could it just be that he was wearing a headband because everyone seeing the flop sweat he gets when he bowls?

Could tattoos just be tattoos?

Call me simple, but............
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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2006, 02:49:58 PM »
OK baccala8872, you're simple......but you're right.
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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2006, 03:03:36 PM »
Actually I think the PBA wants as much controversy as it can get on tv look at the language thats used they don't even try to correct it maybe its acceptable for some people but not for me if you can't talk like that around your mom or your wife or your children than you should not talk like that anywhere. Although I don't particular like his look thats his choice as long as it doesn't violate the rules.
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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2006, 04:07:28 PM »
The PBA is diverse like most workplaces and cities in this country. Why would one be facinated by the way one looks or what thier wife looks like or etc. The topic starts with the way he looks but nothing about the way he acts. Charles, if this gets you "sick to your stomach" try watching Home Garden or something lighter. Your very one dimensional.

I had the opportunity of attending Dallas 2002 in person the whole week and including my one and only tv show attendence and got to see the premier of Ritchie Allen, where he went on to win. He is very intense, and even though was under the weather that day still had alot of the "bad guy" mentallity. Oh well, everyone is different. His show in Medford he looked calm probaly cause he was so glad to finnaly make a show. But i knew he would be animate this show in Pheonix two weeks later cause he wasn't just glad to be there, he wanted to win the title. He did what he needed to win. The only thing I didn't like what he did which I don't know why this hasn't been brought up is lashing at the fans in the title match telling them "QUIET!". I'm sorry, but the ticket prices are a rip off nowadays and I would be mad if a pro bowler did that to me. That was ridiculous, you don't make enemies with the crowd. Ask Randy Pederson how his last show went cause of that.

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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2006, 09:18:49 PM »
Now I view that remark differently, I think it took a lot of fortitude to yell it back at the crowd. I noticed quiet a few times throughout the match both players were distracted. Ritchie Allen is of a lesser PDW, IMO. PDW put professional bowling into the mainstream with his bad boy attitude which caused quite a stir. The fines and suspensions he accumulated actually attracted people's curiousity. Allen could possibly have a similar effect just perhaps not on as grand of a scale.

In the sport though you need the contrasts. You have the bad boys and you have the class acts who will simply lay it out for you no matter how much you talk or how many times you pose. Without the bad boy you wouldn't have nearly the attention drawn to the pro who only lets his ball do the talking. I know in the case of Del Ballard this may be extreme but look at how much attention was drawn to him and he just showed up!!!!!

My point is you are going to need both if for nothing more than to have someone stir up enough emotion to cheer against them. Football is a classic example. I respect the Steelers but God All Mighty.....WILL THEY LOSE? PUHLEEEZE??????


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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2006, 07:33:55 PM »
I'm glad the PBA tour has as much diversity as it does, and I hope it will grow even more then it is now in the future. There is nothing wrong with having a "bad guy" like Allen or a "good guy" like Parker Bohn. You need them all.

The topic started though on the bowlers appearance though, not even his attidude. He didn't state one thing about anything he was doing with his mouth or gestures but his looks. Does Charles really care about how someone looks? I mean the point is to watch bowling. What one's value's is not the center of the universe to set for every household in the world.

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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2006, 11:36:08 PM »
It's obvious from Charles original post, and subsequent debate, the PBA got the result they wanted...I think.  I made a comment on the PBA board that all Ritchie needed was a 12 pack of Busch and a spit cup to complete the outfit.  In saying that, I alluded to the much needed corporate sponsorship to keep the PBA afloat financially, and of course I was bombarded with the obligatory "You must be jealous & shoe up or shut up" responses.

Like Charles, I didn't attack Ritchie's bowling ability or skill, but did question his choice of TV attire.  I also asked if he was speaking Southern in the pre-match interview, however, I was corrected, and told it was ebonics.  My point being, as an ad agency exec interested in selling mainstream products for my client, the PBA on ESPN isn't on my radar.  And I'm sure the suits who own the "New Exempt Denny's PBA Tour" would prefer the players to project a professional image so they can attract more advertising dollars and increase their ROI.

And to respond to the Beatles/Ed Sullivan analogy...the Beatles sold albums  because they were talented and wrote good songs...not because they had long hair and dressed funny.

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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2006, 10:20:29 AM »
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 will not comment on the post, but in general, the users were talking on here last week about why the pros don't come here/post here anymore, and lots of it has to do with the bashing that goes on. Here we go again....not that I agree with showing tattoos, as I do not have one, but if the PBA permits it, so be it. I was bowling a regional a few years back...I had on a KO Punch Track collar shirt, and if you remember, on the back, there were a pair of boxing gloves on the yoke...where they were putting the sponsors of the individual players at that time. I was called aside in practice and told if I wore a shirt to the actual tourney and it had something on the yoke, I would be fined a minimum of $100....so in my opinion, if this was at the regional level and they are this strict, it has to be that way for them, if not worse.....


Clint, the only problem is that the shirt you can change.  It's something you choose prior to appearing.  You have the ability to alter the look to go with what the rules state.

Tattoos are different as many people get them in the late teens...or perhaps in the armed forces.  Point being is those choices may have been made prior to making a determination that ones course of life would be a professional bowler.

Now, granted...tattoo choice, to me, meant thinking about my future.  I have two and they are on my arm.  Did them in college well before I got to where I am today....large corporation, systems engineer for 16 years, etc.  They are covered and that was my choice when I got them.

I know this, if the PBA came up with a rule prohibiting them from being visible, and I had some that were visible, I would fight it.  Some tattoos just can be covered up and by doing so, run the risk fo ruining the potential to earn a living.

As for the headband....being one who shaves his head, I can attest to sweat going nowhere but in my face when it's hot out.  Not even funny.  I could only imagine what it's like under those lights.
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Yeah because if you notice Del was wiping his head every five mins.  If I was one that didn't want anything to alter my grip, I would be wiping sweat with my hand, so I think the head band was a good idea
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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2006, 10:25:26 AM »
Eric, where ya been .. This post is a basic flame on about some hack mad at a new generation of bowling. So, If I made a show( God it would be nice ) and you saw a black guy with both ears pierced and a mock turtle neck and black slacks would that be offensive or Dino ( since he is Asian ) or C.j. who is a male model.. Would you be offened.. Come man . this not Espn Classic with B Voss and Husted with Lacoste shirts and Brown Slacks..

Geez .. Get over it.
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Re: Richie Allen......where's his class?
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2006, 11:58:47 AM »
Your post is why I hate most people in this world. who are you to judge someone. your post sickens me!

If him wearing a sweatband now offends you and demoralizes the sport then what about the pimp pants that most of the bowlers wore in the 70's and early 80's? clothing is just a style. its trends. they come and go and it doesn't matter what you wear.

if would have said "Yo, Yo, Yo, I be here to bowl!", in his interview I would have raised an eyebrow.

other than that I see nothing wrong with trying to get more poeple into the sport by wearing somethig they can relate too!

oh, and have you ever thought that since he has a bald head and the lights out there are blazing hot that he just didn't want to get sweat in his eyes?

no I thought not. your too busy having that stick stuck up your ass!
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