Post by: mumzie on August 11, 2003, 02:49:07 AM
2003 fall tour is canceled due to lack of operating funds.
They are pursuing other investors at this time.
Decision to be made in near future regarding 2004 events.
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 12, 2003, 05:37:25 AM
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: Brickguy221 on August 12, 2003, 12:22:36 PM
Post by: Michael DeSantis on August 13, 2003, 09:06:33 PM
It is sad that there doesn't seem to be enough interest or $$ out there to keep the seniors and the ladies competing on a national level. At this rate, maybe the PBA won't be too far behind.
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Post by: ecajberry on August 14, 2003, 08:53:49 AM
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Post by: 9andaWiggle on August 14, 2003, 11:59:43 AM
Look under the "Todays the day for the PWBA (It rhymes)" post - I think Mumzie or Michelle posted the formal announcement.
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Why, WHY won't the last one just fall?? It's WIGGLING for cryin' out loud!!
Post by: mumzie on August 14, 2003, 12:23:48 PM
I just wish they'd kill the organization, so that someone can resurrect women's professional bowling. Instead, they're keeping the patient on life support, in a never-never land.
Post by: mumzie on August 18, 2003, 12:44:57 PM
I guess this means it's REALLY over...
Sigh.
Post by: seadrive on August 18, 2003, 01:36:00 PM
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Post by: Nodsleinad on August 18, 2003, 01:50:39 PM
Kim Adler: Swim suit model, Fitness expert perhaps? She is in shape.
Carolyn Dorin Ballard: I think she would be a great police woman. She seems so intense, "HOLD IT RIGHT THERE YOU SCUMBAG BEFORE I DROP YOU" Can't you see her saying that?
Kelly Kulick: Motivational speaker and self help Guru. (She talks to her self a lot on the lanes).
Tiffany Stanborough: Nuclear particle for an Atomic Reactor. She seems like she has TONS of energy.
Others, what are your thoughts. Keep it nice
Nod
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Post by: Bjaardker on August 18, 2003, 03:05:33 PM
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I guess they jumped at the chance to hire her, what with the great job she did for the PWBA.
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Cogito ergo bowl
Just what I was thinking Seadrive.
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"And don't forget to boogie!!"
Ditto on that one.
Post by: HamPster on August 18, 2003, 04:17:46 PM
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Forget Kung Fu, I know Ron Bahr!!!
The only difference between youth and adult leagues are that the big boys are allowed to whine. They're more entertaining anyway.
Post by: Bjaardker on August 18, 2003, 11:27:00 PM
Some here may argue that the "no fault of their own" comment does not apply in Jan's case. I think that's where the comments were coming from.
As far as Nod's comments, I'm not saying they were cruel, just would say "bad form old chap".
Post by: mumzie on August 18, 2003, 11:48:24 PM
It would not be good form at all to make fun of these ladies that would probably knock your socks off on the way to victory, if they were ever to bowl against you head to head.
Post by: Nodsleinad on August 19, 2003, 09:24:27 AM
I did not "MAKE FUN" of the girls Mumzie. Making jest at the girls expense would of been much worse if I had chose to do so. Back off sensitive new age guys / girls it is only fun. If we can not laugh through our adversity it will surely destroy us.
Nod
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Post by: mumzie on August 19, 2003, 06:56:27 PM
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Hello to all, I am sorry for the delay in this communication as I was out of town on a scheduled vacation last week and spent a good part of that week on the phone working with a potential buyer that was looking to still save the fall tour. We were on a deadline for all involved, particularly you athletes, ESPN and the host centers, plus the sponsors. ESPN was working with us to provide additional time and each time we reached our deadline, they extended it for us. We were hopeful that the potential buyer would secure everything from his end in time, but it did not happen because two of the host venues could not wait any longer. A personal note was to be sent to all members in addition to the press release about the cancellation of the fall tour, however the decision came so late in the day that in an effort to inform the athletes of the cancellation first, the press release was quickly forwarded to all members. I thought an additional update had gone out, but in the confusion it was missed.
Cathy's letter outlined pretty much where we're at, you have a good president. There are still at least three options. One is the investment group out of Florida that we were working with last week. They still want to proceed ahead in an attempt to purchase the tour. The second is a Ladies and Legends tour. There are a lot of details that would still need to be worked out to make sure it would be a quality choice for women's professional bowling. As Cathy mentioned, there are a lot of rumors out there regarding the Ladies and Legends, and as of this moment, none that I heard are true or confirmed. It is definitely an option, but in no way is it a done deal. The third option is just to close the doors and see if someone (probably the PBA) picks it up and runs a women's tour. There is also another investor that has expressed interest that is still an outside chance. Whichever way it goes, I believe there will be a significant professional women's bowling tour.
The WIBC would like nothing more than to take the tour, however at this time with their future in question they don't feel they can't do the tour and you athletes justice.
There are timelines on some things already in place and a decision regarding the future of the tour moving into 2004 needs to happen by September 1st. I will make sure an e-mail goes out to you all by September 2nd with an update on the future.
I have accepted a position with WIBC. It's Director of Tournaments and Marketing. If there is a tour, it is likely that I will be involved on a sponsorship end from my WIBC position. I'll be in the office this week and at home most of next week, starting with WIBC on September 3rd. (phone numbers removed) It is with great sadness that I leave the PWBA. It's where my heart has always been. However, I, like all of you, have to look out for myself at this point in time considering that most of the staff has been laid off. I'm excited about my new position and I'm sure I'll get to see most of you in my new capacity. I will continue to promote a women's tour and you athletes at every opportunity because you are the best ambassadors for this sport and wonderful people. I'll miss you all and thank those of you that lent your support over the years. I hope we won't lose touch.
Best of luck to everyone. Keep the faith. Jan
I have not received "Cathy's Letter", but have requested a copy be forwarded to me. I find it interesting (but sad) that "most of the staff has been laid off".
Post by: Phillip Marlowe on August 19, 2003, 07:10:30 PM
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I would agree. Several of the touring PWBA members have been welcome posters to this board, and I'm sure that several others are lurkers...
It would not be good form at all to make fun of these ladies that would probably knock your socks off on the way to victory, if they were ever to bowl against you head to head.
Mumzie, some would, some wouldn't...but these professionals deserve a better fate. A failed organization -- no money (a marketing problem), when they could be marketed (as I have written before) and the marketing director is immediately hired...? I think I need a drink. No. I KNOW I need one.
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Post by: mumzie on August 19, 2003, 07:28:14 PM
Post by: tenten on August 20, 2003, 02:36:44 AM
Post by: michelle on August 20, 2003, 07:58:47 AM
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"cathy's letter" should probably stay with the players. My opinion only. Maybe she will make a public statement at a later time
While I would agree with keeping it with the players, not all of the players have seen it, which I think was mumzie's point. The only thing that I got in my member's box was the one from Jan along with the short correction email.
Post by: tenten on August 20, 2003, 11:17:04 AM
Post by: striknbarb on August 20, 2003, 01:09:24 PM
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I guess they jumped at the chance to hire her, what with the great job she did for the PWBA.
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Cogito ergo bowl
Just what I was thinking Seadrive.
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"And don't forget to boogie!!"
Ditto on that one.
Guess it's a good thing I have both a WIBC and ABC card. I can always just carry an ABC card if Jan's skills carry over (and kill) the WIBC...
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Post by: seadrive on August 20, 2003, 01:41:12 PM
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Guess it's a good thing I have both a WIBC and ABC card. I can always just carry an ABC card if Jan's skills carry over (and kill) the WIBC...
Thanks Barb, that's the answer! Kuhn and company are using Jan to push through the USBC. When the delegates hear that Jan is in charge of marketing, they'll realize that the WIBC is about to fold, and resubmit the proposal.
Looks like a shoo-in to me!
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Cogito ergo bowl
Post by: Bjaardker on August 20, 2003, 02:27:29 PM
Hopefully we'll see a viable alternative come to fruition soon.
(and hopefully have a tour stop in milwaukee too.
)In the meantime, if there's lobbying ot letter writing that can be done, let us know!! I know there are many people on this board more than willing to help you out.
I can only imagine what it would be like to dream of becoming a pro, fulfilling that dream & then watching someone else take it away. It's just not right.
Post by: mumzie on August 20, 2003, 03:06:17 PM
I have now seen it, and tenten is right. It will remain private for now.
However - if any of you folks have any ideas about womens bowling, and what might work in the future, please post them. I think the organization (or past organization
) is ripe for them.
Post by: card79 on August 20, 2003, 03:20:07 PM
Also while I am ranting. Where is Espn in this. They are getting decent ratings out of the ladies tour. They should be paying them to bowl not the other way around. Maybe if they got off their collective butts and started selling the tour to advertisers they would be making their money from the right people. Do you think the NFL pays espn to broadcast their shows no way. They pay them.
I could go on and on, but shoot this whole situation is stupid. It isn't a bad product. It is inablility to step up and take care of business. I hope the right people step in and start and entirely new tour.
Andy
P.S. I think it can be done and it will happen shoot look at it I went a whole post without being goofy or silly.
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I don't really play cards and I am not 79, but it fits together somehow.
Post by: card79 on August 20, 2003, 03:21:22 PM
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I don't really play cards and I am not 79, but it fits together somehow.
Post by: michelle on August 20, 2003, 03:51:50 PM
As I have stated time and again...I am and will be eternally grateful for the fact that John saw fit to fund basically out of his own pocket for the length of time that he did. However, fresh blood is needed and not the type of blood that draws the shark feeding frenzy...I still believe that properly marketed, there is a viable product now just occupying space on the proverbial shelf.
On the personal upshot (so aptly pointed out in a PM), it does at least give some extra time for the hand to heal...
Post by: 10 In The Pit on September 09, 2003, 02:43:34 AM
I have to thank John for staying with the program as long as he did. The well just ran dry.