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NevadaBowl

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Greater Cincinnati Open
« on: June 19, 2003, 01:31:50 AM »
Congrats to Carolyn Dorin-Ballard leading the first round of the Greater Cincinnati Open.  And good heavens!  She averaged 239+!!!  In fact the top 20 bowlers were averaging over 219.  Would love to know what shot they are using.

#2 is Cindy Coburn-Carroll
#3 is Rachel Perez
#4 is Cara Honeychurch
#5 is Michelle Feldman

 

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Re: Greater Cincinnati Open
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2003, 05:21:22 PM »
Maybe they decided to give the Ladies a break after the Rockford condition.  Don't want they to be that frustrated two weeks in a row.  Could get ugly!

10 In The Pit

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Re: Greater Cincinnati Open
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2003, 12:22:13 AM »
Speaking of the ugly lane conditions at Rockford, I caught on the telecast where they mentioned that the lanes were treated the entire 60 feet with Guardian finish.  My experiences with Guardian are limited to one house (Reno Hilton Lanes), but from what I've heard from others out there, Guardian can prove to be a tough shot condition after the surface has been installed for over 6 months.  Maybe there is a connection between the Guardian overlay at Rockford and the poor scoring conditions there.....I also recall them mentioning on the telecast that Cherry Bowl has a history of being a low scoring house.

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Re: Greater Cincinnati Open
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2003, 09:40:18 AM »
Chery Bowl is tough... the high school state tournament is usually held there.  The Rockford girls do very well, which figures.

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Re: Greater Cincinnati Open
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2003, 10:19:09 AM »
10intp,

Just be glad you do not have to bowl on a full length Guardian overlay; it is THE abomination of the bowling world. I think it's sole positive is that it's cheap to buy and install; owners use it as an interim measure on their way towards saving for full synthetics (I believe).

I hear that like a good vinyl flooring in your home, unless the underlayment is in perfect and pristine condition, Guardian's effects on bowling are even worse.

It is soft so the heads seem like they wear right away, making the oil appear to disappear. After about a game of 4 or 5 person league, you get serious carrydown. IF you are VERY lucky, you can just move further inside with each 2 - 3 frames; If you are unlucky, you start seeing tons of carrydown AND you can't move inside becauss the inside shot hasn't opened up yet. You need pearls to clear the heads, yet you need strong backend balls to handle carrydown. Lefties often prevail because their side wears at a much slower rate. If you have 4 lefties on a pair, you will hear some new expletives.

All in all, I bowled on it for 2 years, and they were the least fun I've had in bowling for a long time.
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Re: Greater Cincinnati Open
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2003, 06:20:16 AM »
Here's the top ten bowlers after round 1 of match play, with 2 more match play rounds to go:

MATCH PLAY STANDINGS AFTER 24 GAMES
 BLOCK TOTALS TOTAL
 POS BOWLER - HOMETOWN QUAL 1 2 3 PINS AVG W-L-T PINS
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 1 Cindy Coburn-Carroll-Williamsville 3858 1807 0 0 5665
 236.04 6- 2- 0 5845 +1045
 2 Carolyn Dorin-Ballard-N. Richland 3863 1847 0 0 5710
 237.91 3- 5- 0 5800 +1000
 3 Liz Johnson-Cheektowaga, NY 3641 1886 0 0 5527 230.29
 6- 2- 0 5707 +907
 4 Wendy Macpherson-Henderson, NV 3679 1877 0 0 5556
 231.50 5- 3- 0 5706 +906
 5 Marianne DiRupo-Succasunna, NJ 3670 1852 0 0 5522
 230.08 5- 3- 0 5672 +872
 6 Rachel Perez-San Marcos, TX 3790 1761 0 0 5551 231.29
 4- 4- 0 5671 +871
 7 Kari Schwager(am)-Lincoln, NE 3726 1722 0 0 5448 227.00
 7- 1- 0 5658 +858
 8 Cara Honeychurch-Australia, 3708 1766 0 0 5474 228.08 4-
 4- 0 5594 +794
 9 Kim Terrell-Antioch, CA 3624 1835 0 0 5459 227.45 4- 4- 0
 5579 +779
 10 Cheryl Daniels-West Bloomfield, MI 3592 1873 0 0 5465
 227.70 3- 5- 0 5555 +755

These top ten are breaking away from the field quite a bit, so it could lead to some speculation where your top five will come in at.  As you can see, the averages are up pretty good this week.

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Re: Greater Cincinnati Open
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2003, 06:42:03 PM »
Top five for the show are:

1 Liz Johnson
2 Carolyn Dorin-Ballard
3 Marianne DiRupo
4 Cheryl Daniels
5 Wendy Macpherson

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Re: Greater Cincinnati Open
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2003, 11:34:13 AM »
Several times during the telecast Cathy said that the bowlers had to get their balls more to the outside and they were 'guaranteed' to come roaring back to the pocket.  That the farther right they went, the more they would hook because of the dry out there.  She said this kind of thing on a few occasions.  Maybe I just don't fully understand what is going on, but these comments and the high (235+) averages for the week make me wonder if it was almost a house shot out there.  Many of us have speculated on what kind of scores the pros would do if they had a house shot to play on.  Maybe we just found out.

That being said, house shot or sport shot or US Open-type hell, the good bowlers are still good.

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Re: Greater Cincinnati Open
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2003, 01:44:06 PM »
Well, still, they weren't doing all that hot for having the reaction out there.  I saw a couple times that Cheryl got it outside, and it did ROAR back.  That's when you move deeper and bounce it off the dry.  The ball looked like it came up from anywhere as long as you got it outside, but there was oil in the middle.  I bowl on a shot like that, kick it outside and you'll do great.  Course, my carry is like theirs too, but then you just have to live off mixers.
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