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Equipment Boards => Radical => Topic started by: spencerwatts on June 09, 2015, 01:28:43 PM
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This is the latest in the Guru series by Radical. Hmmmm . . . .
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Ok I have to ask whats the difference between this and the original Guru? Other than color.
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Ok I have to ask whats the difference between this and the original Guru? Other than color.
The video said more HOOK, so since they are the same finish perhaps the cover has an additive that enhances its ability to hook I'm oil.
Newguy would know!
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I'm kinda disappointed. I was looking forward to a pearl Guru
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Its interesting that they have Pro Cg pins in the video (if not, very close), with the CG pretty far left of the Pin to MB line. So they can drill with no extra hole.
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I'm kinda disappointed. I was looking forward to a pearl Guru
Isn't the Guru Mighty a pearl?
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I'm kinda disappointed. I was looking forward to a pearl Guru
Isn't the Guru Mighty a pearl?
Remember how they said they can get any desired ball reaction with adjusting addatives and that pearl and hybrid looks are for asthetics? Focus on described intention not asthetics. Surface is the key.
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Phil can talk more about it, but the coverstock additives were tweaked (dialed down the projection additive and upped the friction additive) to give an even stronger motion on oily lanes.
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I'm kinda disappointed. I was looking forward to a pearl Guru
Isn't the Guru Mighty a pearl?
Guru Mighty is a hybrid. I know surface is the biggest factor but the Guru Mighty's cover still seems a little too strong for what I'm looking for
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The Guru line seems to be nothing but heavy/long oil hook monsters. Other than that niche, I find it hard to want one of them even though everyone says they are good balls. I am probably not ignorant a little but I don't really understand the need for a Guru Master if the original Guru is already the monster that it is.
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At one house I bowl in it is really dry and some guy had an original.. I thought there was no way the ball would work but it actually worked really well. I talked to the pro shop and they said that they tuned the surface so it wasn't as aggressive. Seeing the performance of that ball made me get a mighty for my dad. Haven't drilled it yet but hoping it works well for him.
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The Guru line seems to be nothing but heavy/long oil hook monsters. Other than that niche, I find it hard to want one of them even though everyone says they are good balls. I am probably not ignorant a little but I don't really understand the need for a Guru Master if the original Guru is already the monster that it is.
Then how would you sell more high performance balls or any if its not the next best thing… ..every new release is the next best thing with a new shape not seen before.
This is advertising by all brands
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The Guru line seems to be nothing but heavy/long oil hook monsters. Other than that niche, I find it hard to want one of them even though everyone says they are good balls. I am probably not ignorant a little but I don't really understand the need for a Guru Master if the original Guru is already the monster that it is.
Well we really haven't seen or heard much negative feedback at all on the guru line. It's gotta be good regardless
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All I can say after watching the video is... Meehh...
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The Einstein looks good, the vandal, corrupt thug....idk about anything else..
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Ok I have to ask whats the difference between this and the original Guru? Other than color.
About 5 boards of total hook
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Ok I have to ask whats the difference between this and the original Guru? Other than color.
The video said more HOOK, so since they are the same finish perhaps the cover has an additive that enhances its ability to hook I'm oil.
Newguy would know!
Its all about the additives in the cover, we have a multitude of additive options, we have just begun to explore, this is one of them. It offers more hook but amazingly enough it is very continuous.
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I'm kinda disappointed. I was looking forward to a pearl Guru
Highly unlikely ( not going to ). The Guru line will be noted for hook, the new Guru Master is HOOK IN A BOX. The 3 Guru's all have distinct motions.
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Its interesting that they have Pro Cg pins in the video (if not, very close), with the CG pretty far left of the Pin to MB line. So they can drill with no extra hole.
Don't read into that, it what was shipped up from the factory. We are all about the numbers after drilling we could have created the same motion with a shorter pin. Look at the charts we have on our web site.
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Phil can talk more about it, but the coverstock additives were tweaked (dialed down the projection additive and upped the friction additive) to give an even stronger motion on oily lanes.
Nick is right on, we changed the ratios of the additives and were able to dial in the exact motion. We wanted a stronger mid lane and a very continuous motion down lane. All reports are this ball hooks a lot more than the Original but is allow for a very continuous motion through the pins.
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I'm kinda disappointed. I was looking forward to a pearl Guru
Isn't the Guru Mighty a pearl?
Guru Mighty is a hybrid. I know surface is the biggest factor but the Guru Mighty's cover still seems a little too strong for what I'm looking for
Check out the low flare drillings that allow you to us the stronger stuff and take advantage of the strong core and cover but reduces the flare potential so you get all the benefits of the Guru with out the excessive hook.
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Newguy mentioned 5 boards stronger and I would agree. I have thrown the Master on many different patterns from house to Mexico City and it is the strongest ball in my bag. Compared to the original Guru it just reads more in the midlane and it continues much better in my opinion. It is an amazing ball. I bowl in a sport lge at my home center and we put out Mexico City for 3 weeks. The 3rd week I had the Master and Mo happened to be there that week. I played deeper than I had the 2 prior weeks with the intention of burning a hole. It is a dbls lge so trying to blow a hole in the pattern takes some time. I hung in there for 3 games and then the 4th game I shot 250 something and if we would have kept bowling it would have been game on. The Master allowed me to play in close to where the higher rev guys play moving me away from 2nd arrow where you are flirting with a washout if you leak it right. Mo has been a tremendous help to me and our shop and I urge folks to book a lesson or attend his seminars when he is in your area. Mike Mineman.
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Mike is right on with his description and I agree with his assessment of taking advantage of Mo when he is in your area.
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phil nice to see you are this web site hope you and your family are well roth and i talk many times about you with the great equiptment you turned out my next ball will be the guru master stay well and be safe paramedic hal
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phil nice to see you are this web site hope you and your family are well roth and i talk many times about you with the great equiptment you turned out my next ball will be the guru master stay well and be safe paramedic hal