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Cash cover adjustment...for a buddy
« on: November 01, 2018, 07:56:56 PM »
My buddy has a cash, it's hooking too early etc. Same old story

Oob it's 500/1500...

Is it a cover that we should:

A: polish it over the oob grit (potentially resurface then polish)
B: no polish...just play with 3000 or 4000 grits
C: take it to 4000+polish (storm style)

Any experience?
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Re: Cash cover adjustment...for a buddy
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2018, 07:46:33 PM »
We're gonna take it to 4k no polish.
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Re: Cash cover adjustment...for a buddy
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2018, 08:58:08 PM »
I may be of some assistance here. A little while back I picked up a used radical cash, great price, low games cover was in really good shape. I picked it up just to see how this ball being marketed as "the most hooking ball ever made" stacked up to my preferred heavy oil/flood balls---Visionary Midnight scorcher, Ebonite Tombstones..I own 2 of each and my centaur amb particle and my immortal solid.  I decided to drill the cash up the same way I have many of those drilled up, with a 320 degree hook/set drilling(I need the extra help with the drilling).

The comparison testing was done at the kegel training center in Lake Wales Florida. I bowled on a 41 foot heavy sport shot. The results were surprising and disappointing. The cash greatly underperformed compared to all the rest, it really labored on the pattern to move much. At the time I didn't redrill the ball...but I did decide at some point to tame up the cover as much as possible and heavily polished it. Something about those core specs and that shape that with a 320 degree hook set drilling put on it really tones the reaction down...what I ended up with was a medium - medium light oil ball.  Actually shot a 266 about a year ago in league with it. That is why I picked up this year a Xeno pearl..nearly identical specs and many similarities to the cash core, and a 320 hook set on THAT ball gives me even more length than my lane #1 bullet(believe it or not) , but a much more flippy backend than the Bullet.

Maybe he could try redrilling it with a 320 degree hook set drilling, that would tame the reaction quite a bit. The drilling is found here http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Trick_Layout_Examples

Although I am concerned once the new rules go into effect regarding weight holes because that drilling requires one..but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

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Re: Cash cover adjustment...for a buddy
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2018, 09:25:32 PM »
I wonder how all of those layouts work with all of those. I'd like to do the high flare smooth layout on a Sumo SE
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Re: Cash cover adjustment...for a buddy
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2018, 12:58:09 AM »
My experience as well (with More Cash) but went with 65x4"x30 with double thumb (that ended up plugging balance hole).  Damn ball goes straight and burns up unless it has virtually no surface and even then doesn't move all that much.  Much much weaker than my Green Quantum.  Figured was because I haven't used it on a heavy sports pattern but seen several others on here say the same thing.  Don't know how much a weaker drilling would help.  Katana core sure killed the crap out of the Cash core though in Radical's lineup.  Guessing Cash core with that abrasive of cover stock makes ball very condition and bowler specific and based on how fast it went to clearance was a bit of turd for Radical after initial hook hype wore off.

(edit:  that new Conspiracy ball looks like what the More Cash should have been)
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Re: Cash cover adjustment...for a buddy
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2018, 08:29:37 AM »
I wasn't trying to be a D........but I did have to ask those questions and define our goal. 

To be fair it does sound like using the ball is a priority over scoring, and in that case I would go to 4000 and if that doesn't create enough push add some Xtra Shine.

I don't get it as I'd use the ball for its intended purpose, but bring the cover way up since we're wanting to throw this.
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Re: Cash cover adjustment...for a buddy
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2018, 07:20:25 PM »
I wasn't trying to be a D........but I did have to ask those questions and define our goal. 

To be fair it does sound like using the ball is a priority over scoring, and in that case I would go to 4000 and if that doesn't create enough push add some Xtra Shine.

I don't get it as I'd use the ball for its intended purpose, but bring the cover way up since we're wanting to throw this.

He's got 10+ that he uses, but his cash never gets use. Polish is probably inevitable 😂
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