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newguy

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Need your opinion.....
« on: November 12, 2014, 08:53:42 AM »
So i would like your input. Tell me the ideal ball motion that is most desirable.  Please do not use other balls as an example. I want you to describe the motion.
I will select 2 responses randomly. The first selected response will receive a Guru. The second will receive a Yeti Uncaged. Only one response per person.  Multiple responses by the same person will disqualify you from the selection process.
Please be as descriptive as possible. It's your chance to help us develope a ball down the road.
Thanks
Phil

 

dougb

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #106 on: January 11, 2015, 12:14:29 AM »

I am a lower revs/speed stroker whose "a" game is down the outside.
I can make a strong reactive ball hook the lane but if I have to chase the oil line left witn the crankers and the new equipment that ball companies are putting out I cannot compete. My option is to move right with an older reactive piece or urethane.

I'm looking for natural length and a modest, predictable back end motion. Something with a strong enough cover to allow for conditions where they oil outside the first arrow, but not so strong that I can't stay outside when the pattern is opened up.. Think urethane but something that doesn't roll as early.

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2015, 05:45:20 PM »
Just curious.  Who were the two lucky guys who won the balls?

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #108 on: January 31, 2015, 12:53:08 AM »
I love a nice controlled arc. I love having that ball and reaction where no matter how much a get it at the bottom of the swing it just doesn't over react. I like to call it the stroke. I get that motion and feeling its over!  ;)

newguy

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #109 on: January 31, 2015, 12:45:14 PM »
I haven't selected the winners yet. It will be a random draw. Been busy with the new launches. Will select after the 10th
Still taking more opinions until than.
Thanks
Phil

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #110 on: January 31, 2015, 02:32:27 PM »
With having higher speed and a higher rev rate, the thing I love to see is a ball that is clean through the front part of the lane and reads the midlane well.  Once it hits the midlane, I want to see a nice controlled arc but have something that stores energy well and is continuous in back. 
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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #111 on: February 03, 2015, 09:48:47 PM »
I am a speed dominant player; for me, an ideal reaction is controlled angularity.  Skid flip is just too inconsistent to score. Getting the right layout and the right show to match up is the challenge.

On heavier shots, I've been getting that result with a solid, higher pin about 2" above ring, and a MB right of thumb with no x-hole. On shots where I need a bit more length, I've been going with a pin barely lower than ring and 1.5" right, MB down and slightly left, a longer pin length, and a robust lower x-hole. This allows me to create more area but not the wacky flippy reaction.


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L3nn0n

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #112 on: February 04, 2015, 01:18:19 AM »
Personally, being a speed dominant player with average to low revs, I love to see a ball that goes clean trough the fronts with a good midlane read, I love smooth, predictable balls. Being a lefty I can bowl almost in the same spot for all night, without needing to open the lane or my angle, so I usually don't need to change balls or shape in order to hit the pocket.

As every other bowler, we all want to know what the ball is gonna do and how is gonna react, a consistent motion, skid/flip can be too jumpy and even if it looks pretty cool is not as consistent as a long arc. For me those are the keys of a sucessful ball.

A controllable, smooth (I know, I said smooth a lot lol), a ball that you can clearly see go through the 3 phases: skid, hook, roll – smoothly. Personaly I like solids more than pearl or even hybrids, they seem to be more versatile and they can have surface adjustments easily.

Thanks for taking the time to read all of our responses! I am by no means an expert, just an average bowler who loves to ball at all times and someone who everyday is getting more into the game. I just love it. I hope my opinion can help!

Thanks!

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #113 on: February 04, 2015, 06:36:59 AM »
Newguy,

if I may chime in. I really like the smooth overall roll of a ball, no hockey stick type reaction. The hockey stick is nice sometimes, but more often that not I get into trouble with it. Pearls seems to always want to push for me just a tad too much and have a tendency to over/under me to death, even with surface on the pearl.

Hope this helps somewhat

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #114 on: February 04, 2015, 11:41:06 AM »
I am a fan of the hockey stick reaction.  Basically, skid for 38 feet, trasition for 2-3 feet, then snap to pins.

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #115 on: February 04, 2015, 02:05:10 PM »
I like skid slurve!  Not to be confused with Rev slurve!

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #116 on: February 04, 2015, 08:32:15 PM »
My favorite ball motion is one that is very controllable and picks up in a heavy roll on the back end.  I am not a big fan of skid/snap or hockey stick shape.  They are good sometimes but can lead to more trouble.  My all time favorite ball is the Brunswick Original Inferno with a pin down layout.  I could basically play on any pattern with that ball.  It was very controllable but had a strong roll on the back end.  It would allow me to read the pattern more and see the transition better.  I have also been a big fan of the Radical Yeti and Brunswick Meanstreak Brawler with a MOtion hole.  They both provide the same reaction as the Inferno.  The MOtion hole drilling on those balls proved me with the controlled reaction and a strong continuous motion through the pin deck.

L3nn0n

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #117 on: February 15, 2015, 01:58:18 PM »
Hello newguy! Just curious... Have you chose the two lucky guys?   ;D

newguy

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #118 on: February 18, 2015, 09:54:57 AM »
Not yet. Having some computer issues. I will select them tomorrow if all goes well.
Thanks for the support

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #119 on: February 18, 2015, 10:13:57 AM »
Good luck fixing those computer issues. I had to reinstall everything on my Mac this last weekend and it was a nightmare. Lost a lot of files, pics, etc. so I've been there  :-\

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Re: Need your opinion.....
« Reply #120 on: February 18, 2015, 10:36:36 AM »
I still have my Original Inferno 15#, even though I have dropped to #14. The only older ball of mine I won't give up.
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