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Radical Results
« on: March 23, 2020, 03:20:08 PM »
This ball is something special.  Thrown on a standard house shot.  My Rev rate is 375, low tilt 7°, 60° axis rotation, ball speed 17 to 18mph.  The Results picks up really well in the midland and very strong and continual off the breakpoint.  As I moved left and softened up the hand a little, I was able to open up the whole right side of the lane.  This ball does not quit, it keeps coming.  The Results accepts surface changes very well.  Giving you almost endless options on a wide variety of lane conditions.  A must have in your bag.

 

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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2020, 09:52:21 PM »
Score = 11 keywords and phrases out of a possible gazillion. That rating places this review squarely in the rank amateur category. I suggest at least 4 more keywords to get into the functionally useless category.

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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2020, 12:50:39 AM »
I would second this, but he actually gave bowler specs. That knocks off at least two points from the key words rating. And his rev rate is less than 450, so that is worth at least 1 more point. That leaves him just outside of “usable as toilet paper” range.

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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2020, 07:02:55 AM »
Come on guys.  This ball is so special it rolls well in the "midland".  A part of the lane we never knew existed.  That has to account for something.  Right?  LOL!!!
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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2020, 07:36:10 AM »
Isn't this ball the same basic idea that Lane#1 used for the DIFFerence almost 5 years ago?  Create a ball with a large intermediate differential?  It is difficult to understand Radical's hype around this one.  I am a huge Radical fan, but come on. 
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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2020, 11:05:23 AM »
Isn't this ball the same basic idea that Lane#1 used for the DIFFerence almost 5 years ago?  Create a ball with a large intermediate differential?  It is difficult to understand Radical's hype around this one.  I am a huge Radical fan, but come on. 
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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2020, 02:47:23 PM »
Actually the Results has only a .027 int diff and a .044 diff.      I watched a youtube video on science and the radical results , and they conclude that a strong asymetric  has a int diff > 1/2 of the total diff with an int diff > .022. (mo says it's not just the numbers but the core shape as well)...however the core he created for the Amf Xs back in the early mid 90's had an int diff of .027 and a total diff of .042 according to the creater himself. Sooo......it took this long to realize they had the right core numbers but the wrong core shape all these years??? Just wonderin.

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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2020, 03:06:38 PM »
I think Mo tells you that the best thing ever is whatever he is trying to sell at the time.
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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2020, 03:13:45 PM »
It would be great to see one of Radical's "Perception vs. Reality" videos where they compare balls that have cores with identical numbers, but totally different shapes.  Drill them so the "after drilling" numbers are the same.  Give them to ThroBot and let us see what happens.

The "before drilling" numbers of the Results and the Zing are not all that different.  They could probably drill them to get the same after drilling numbers and show us what the difference is.
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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2020, 04:27:29 PM »
This ball sounds Radical!!
Mo said this was his third best ball he ever created "game changers or hall of fame bowling balls." First was the AMF SuMo, Second the Hammer 3D Offset and now the Radical Results.
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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2020, 05:37:28 PM »
Awful ball review that I hope was not written by a fellow staffer...

I have thrown the Results and it is angular to the point that I had trouble carrying - solid 9's and 7-10's because my angles were too sharp off of the backend.  I am curious to see a Perception vs Reality video but it is as sharp off the break point as any ball that I remember throwing.
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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2020, 06:31:10 PM »
It's hard not to think it's a gimmick to get attention and they're using the Balance hole rule as a scare tactic.
If High INT Diff balls were better, they would have been releasing them for the last 20 years.

In a side by side from Hit It Harder, the Nuclear Cell seemed noticeably more angular with better continuation through the deck.  Multiple reviews of the Results seem to have the ball rolling right off the deck rather than left, more often than not.  I'm not sure why, but it seems odd.

On Flush shots, every ball looks great, but on off hits, misses left/right, the Results really seemed to penalize on carry.

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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2020, 07:58:54 PM »
It's hard not to think it's a gimmick to get attention and they're using the Balance hole rule as a scare tactic.
If High INT Diff balls were better, they would have been releasing them for the last 20 years.

In a side by side from Hit It Harder, the Nuclear Cell seemed noticeably more angular with better continuation through the deck.  Multiple reviews of the Results seem to have the ball rolling right off the deck rather than left, more often than not.  I'm not sure why, but it seems odd.

On Flush shots, every ball looks great, but on off hits, misses left/right, the Results really seemed to penalize on carry.

The cover on the Nuclear Cell is much cleaner from what I've seen. I don't have the Results but I do have the Conspiracy Theory which shares the TP1 coverstock and I wouldn't call it clean and angular. It wants to dig. For a Storm comparison I would say it's more similar to the Omega Crux.

I have seen a lot of videos about the Results and I tend to agree about it looking... off on hits that aren't squared up really well. It's different. With the global health crisis going on we probably won't see much more for a while, but I wonder what surface changes would do for it. Especially more of a true polish finish as opposed to the compound it comes with.

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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2020, 12:47:20 AM »
WHY SO NEGATIVE?? YOU GUYS BEEN INSIDE TOO LONG!!

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Re: Radical Results
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2020, 08:07:08 AM »
We are not really being negative.  We are having a fun, reasonable discussion about the ball and how it compares to other similar products.

All manufacturers tend to make certain claims about their new products.  Some claims are more conservative than others.  This ball, however, is being marketed as Mo Pinel's 3rd greatest core innovation of his career.  That is a pretty huge claim, so it kind of deserves some extra attention.
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