BallReviews
Equipment Boards => Radical => Topic started by: MLWilliams on March 23, 2020, 03:20:08 PM
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This ball is something special. Thrown on a standard house shot. My Rev rate is 375, low tilt 7°, 60° axis rotation, ball speed 17 to 18mph. The Results picks up really well in the midland and very strong and continual off the breakpoint. As I moved left and softened up the hand a little, I was able to open up the whole right side of the lane. This ball does not quit, it keeps coming. The Results accepts surface changes very well. Giving you almost endless options on a wide variety of lane conditions. A must have in your bag.
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Score = 11 keywords and phrases out of a possible gazillion. That rating places this review squarely in the rank amateur category. I suggest at least 4 more keywords to get into the functionally useless category.
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I would second this, but he actually gave bowler specs. That knocks off at least two points from the key words rating. And his rev rate is less than 450, so that is worth at least 1 more point. That leaves him just outside of “usable as toilet paper†range.
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Come on guys. This ball is so special it rolls well in the "midland". A part of the lane we never knew existed. That has to account for something. Right? LOL!!!
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Isn't this ball the same basic idea that Lane#1 used for the DIFFerence almost 5 years ago? Create a ball with a large intermediate differential? It is difficult to understand Radical's hype around this one. I am a huge Radical fan, but come on.
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Isn't this ball the same basic idea that Lane#1 used for the DIFFerence almost 5 years ago? Create a ball with a large intermediate differential? It is difficult to understand Radical's hype around this one. I am a huge Radical fan, but come on.
But...But...Its a must have!!!
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Actually the Results has only a .027 int diff and a .044 diff. I watched a youtube video on science and the radical results , and they conclude that a strong asymetric has a int diff > 1/2 of the total diff with an int diff > .022. (mo says it's not just the numbers but the core shape as well)...however the core he created for the Amf Xs back in the early mid 90's had an int diff of .027 and a total diff of .042 according to the creater himself. Sooo......it took this long to realize they had the right core numbers but the wrong core shape all these years??? Just wonderin.
Brad
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I think Mo tells you that the best thing ever is whatever he is trying to sell at the time.
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It would be great to see one of Radical's "Perception vs. Reality" videos where they compare balls that have cores with identical numbers, but totally different shapes. Drill them so the "after drilling" numbers are the same. Give them to ThroBot and let us see what happens.
The "before drilling" numbers of the Results and the Zing are not all that different. They could probably drill them to get the same after drilling numbers and show us what the difference is.
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This ball sounds Radical!!
Mo said this was his third best ball he ever created "game changers or hall of fame bowling balls." First was the AMF SuMo, Second the Hammer 3D Offset and now the Radical Results.
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Awful ball review that I hope was not written by a fellow staffer...
I have thrown the Results and it is angular to the point that I had trouble carrying - solid 9's and 7-10's because my angles were too sharp off of the backend. I am curious to see a Perception vs Reality video but it is as sharp off the break point as any ball that I remember throwing.
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It's hard not to think it's a gimmick to get attention and they're using the Balance hole rule as a scare tactic.
If High INT Diff balls were better, they would have been releasing them for the last 20 years.
In a side by side from Hit It Harder, the Nuclear Cell seemed noticeably more angular with better continuation through the deck. Multiple reviews of the Results seem to have the ball rolling right off the deck rather than left, more often than not. I'm not sure why, but it seems odd.
On Flush shots, every ball looks great, but on off hits, misses left/right, the Results really seemed to penalize on carry.
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It's hard not to think it's a gimmick to get attention and they're using the Balance hole rule as a scare tactic.
If High INT Diff balls were better, they would have been releasing them for the last 20 years.
In a side by side from Hit It Harder, the Nuclear Cell seemed noticeably more angular with better continuation through the deck. Multiple reviews of the Results seem to have the ball rolling right off the deck rather than left, more often than not. I'm not sure why, but it seems odd.
On Flush shots, every ball looks great, but on off hits, misses left/right, the Results really seemed to penalize on carry.
The cover on the Nuclear Cell is much cleaner from what I've seen. I don't have the Results but I do have the Conspiracy Theory which shares the TP1 coverstock and I wouldn't call it clean and angular. It wants to dig. For a Storm comparison I would say it's more similar to the Omega Crux.
I have seen a lot of videos about the Results and I tend to agree about it looking... off on hits that aren't squared up really well. It's different. With the global health crisis going on we probably won't see much more for a while, but I wonder what surface changes would do for it. Especially more of a true polish finish as opposed to the compound it comes with.
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WHY SO NEGATIVE?? YOU GUYS BEEN INSIDE TOO LONG!!
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We are not really being negative. We are having a fun, reasonable discussion about the ball and how it compares to other similar products.
All manufacturers tend to make certain claims about their new products. Some claims are more conservative than others. This ball, however, is being marketed as Mo Pinel's 3rd greatest core innovation of his career. That is a pretty huge claim, so it kind of deserves some extra attention.
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Every once in awhile a ball outside "the normal" catches my eye. Having been on staff for 15 years I've thrown LOTS of Brunswick equipment. My Uppercut uses the textured pearl cover and I love it. Most pearls that come polished are over/under for me, so 90% of the balls that come polished get a quick surface tweak.
This cover, especially with more surface, can handle a good amount of oil, but should be slightly more responsive off the back of the pattern than many of the strong solids, in my estimation. I have seen the Results (shiny) on the lanes with a fellow staffer who is clearly rev dominant, and it was a hard left turn. I told him to dull the surface and retry it, but then we've been off bowling for a few weeks, and will continue to miss for another couple, due to the pandemic.
Hopefully we can resume league before too long so I can watch it with surface applied. I can see myself buying this ball as an "asymmetrical Uppercut". If it is it will be what I'm looking for. Let's hope we can all stay healthy during this crisis and get back to throwing strikes with whatever ball we use.
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Every once in a while, an inept person, who basically has to "sell his soul to the devil", just to get free (or highly discounted) bowling equipment will drop by here and bomb us with one of these "reviews".
Must be hell to be that desperate for equipment.
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Mr. Pariah, you are extremely rude. I hope you feel better now. You don't know me. I don't hide behind a screen name, so if you're ever in my direction please look me up. I manage a bowling center so I'm very easy to find. Bring your bowling balls and your wallet with you. I'm not the world's best bowler, but I'm not afraid of competition.
By the way, mine was not a review. I was trying to elaborate WHY I may end up purchasing this ball. I don't care that you're jealous of staffers, or why all the venom toward someone you've never met? Some of us try harder than others to give good information. I have answered hundreds of personal messages over the years regarding Brunswick, Storm, and other brands. I enjoy trying to help other bowlers. But you're not listening, so let's bowl.
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Hi Lane. I should stay out of this, but have you perhaps considered that Pariah was commenting on the OP's post, just as I was? He's right, and add me to that particular list. We DO NOT need these crap reviews that use all the buzzwords. You are respected and appreciated, but perhaps the comment wasn't directed to you??? In my case at least, definitely after the OP for reviews like that, and always will be.
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Thanks lefty,
Since he started his remarks the same way I did, I took it that way. There are some very good and knowledgeable people here (you are among those I like to read) and at times we all get frustrated. Thanks again.
P.S. I don't care for many of the reviews here lately either, but I find myself posting less reviews because I bowl on house shots 90% of the time. Every ball looks good on house shots...
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Loving my Results. What are the chances this ball gets a Hybrid or an actual Solid cover on it? Going to grab a 2nd or maybe even a 3rd Results and put different patterns/surfaces on them.
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Loving my Results. What are the chances this ball gets a Hybrid or an actual Solid cover on it? Going to grab a 2nd or maybe even a 3rd Results and put different patterns/surfaces on them.
I feel whatever Radical decides to do next, it will at least be interesting. With it being the Textured Pearl, they technically have an option for a straight Solid, Pearl, or Hybrid for the next ball, or, for those who bowl on 60 feet of oil, they could come out with a Textured Solid, or Textured Hybrid cover. They have a gap at the top of the bag for a big solid right now, so that is what I think will come next.
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Anyone tries a pin axis drilling with this ball? Any thoughts on how it might roll?