I just drilled up a Times Up Solid a few weeks ago. My layout is 60* 4-5/8" x 45*, no weight hole, box finish. With this layout and finish, the Times Up Solid is very smooth and predictable. I've used it on a medium THS, and I wanted a benchmark type ball reaction, and that is exactly what I got. I don't cross a lot of boards or create a lot of angle on the backend with this layout/surface, but I wanted something very controllable. I'm very impressed so far.