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Asylum
« on: November 13, 2013, 10:38:30 AM »
Roto Grip Asylum Ball Specs:
- Color: Neon Green Pearl/Blood Red All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Reaction: Mid-lane motion and continuation
- Coverstock: 63MH Hybrid Reactive
- Core Type: Middle Roll 70 Core
- Factory Finish: 3000-grit Abralon
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.50**
- Differential (Diff): 0.043**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Hook Potential: Medium
- Length: Medium
- Recommended Lane Condition: Medium-Heavy Oil

 

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Roto Grip Asylum
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2014, 01:18:46 PM »
Roto Grip Asylum

Right Handed
Rev Rate-400
Speed - medium
PAP - 4 up 1 1/4

The Roto Grip Asylum the Middle Roll 70 Core with 63MH Hybird Reactive coverstock.  Asylum is the hybird version of the Disturbed and Deranged.  I am pretty fan of the hybird coverstocks coming from Utah.  I really think they have something there with those coverstocks.  I drilled my Asylum 60 x 5 x 50 or
5 x  4 x 3 pin up.
The Asylum gives me good midlane roll with a real smooth roll of the spot, not flippy at all.  Really impressed with how predictable and controllable this ball rolls.
Not as early as the RG Disturbed or as angular as RG Deranged can be.
I also like that when the lane transition, the Asylum doesn't over bounce on the dry and big 4 or skid too far and 2-8-10.  Another great ball from Utah.

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Asylum review by Staffer Garrett Richardson
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2014, 09:38:51 PM »
Hand: Left
Ball Speed: 16-17mph
Ball Weight: 15lbs
PAP: 5 left 7/16 up
Degrees of Tilt: 17
Layout: 4 7/8 x 4 x 4 ½
 
The Asylum is drilled pin below the bridge cg out with a hole down. I honestly did not know how I would feel about this ball and now its one of my new favorites out of the new releases. I am a big fan of the solid version of the Asylum called the disturbed and so so about the deranged but knowing my history of loving hybrids I should of known I would love this ball. The asylum gives me what a lot of hybrids do for me predictable back end and versatility. This one especially gives me a lot of mid lane read that no other hybrid it is category has given me which makes me love it more. I can use it on more higher volumes of oil and still able to use it when the lanes break down I just have to move right to play more oil but can still play to the break down and not over react.

Comparing to the disturbed and deranged the asylum fits right in the middle of the 2. Disturbed which is a solid is still the strongest then I can go down to the asylum which is about a 3 board difference then to the deranged that is pearl when the lanes are getting dry and need a ball to get down lane but still not make a sharp move on the back end and the deranged is another 3-4 board move from the aslyum. For Roto Grip this is my favorite new ball in the line up and for you hybrid fans that need a stronger ball for oil under your disturbed and even your defiant soul this is the one.

If you have any questions about the Asylum email me at garrett.richardson@pinolebowlerssupply.com

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Re: Asylum
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2014, 08:36:54 AM »
The Asylum is the third ball released from Roto Grip with the middle roll 70 core that touts an RG of 2.50 and a differential of 0.043 in 15lb balls. This offering has a neon green, blood red hybrid cover stock.  The Asylum has a factory finish of 3000 grit Abralon that is easily adjustable to fine tune the bowlers reaction.
The Asylum really is a hybrid of the Deranged and Disturbed. It doesn’t pick up near as early and has more backend than the Disturbed. The Asylum reads the lane earlier and will handle more oil than the Deranged. If there was ever the perfect “fit ball “between two bowling balls, this just may be it.
I drilled my Asylum with the pin just left of my ring finger, and Cg on my grip line. This layout breaks down to a 4x6½ x2 ½, using the Storm layout system. I left the ball at the box finish and this ball was strong, strong, strong! Not only did it hook in the midlane, it also continued through the backend, and off the pin deck. This ball could be a great oiler if you keep the cover dull and clean it with some reacta-scuff. I needed to get some games on it and oil build up on the cover, to help tame it down a bit, as I have the Marvel S and the Hyper Cell for floods, and the Asylum is a step down in my arsenal. After about 5 games, it was the perfect marriage of glide through the front, with a clean read of the midlane, and crisp, but not jerky move to and through the pins. I have at least 40 games on it now, and have never touched the cover, but to clean it with reacta-clean after every session, and it rolls about the same as it did since game 5, once it oil shinned.
I have been able to use the Asylum on house conditions, long patterns that I have to go at the pocket with such as the Don Carter (50 ft) and Mark Roth (46 ft) patterns. I used it during a tournament that had the USBC National’s team (43ft) pattern once the fronts broke down a bit, and am able to use it on shorter patterns like the Viper (37 ft) and most recently the Carmen Salvino (40 ft) pattern. Versatile, really is an understatement for this ball with this layout for my style of game.
The Asylum is the first ball out of my bag as it isn’t the strongest or the weakest cover and core combination that I have. Often times, I don’t have to reach for anything else, just make a subtle hand adjustment or move my feet, and go to work. If you want a ball that has a lot of versatility with all except the absolute extreme floods or dirt lanes, than the Asylum is the ball for you.
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Roto Grip Asylum by Louis Narvaez Jr. Storm/RG Staff
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2014, 12:02:42 PM »
Dual Angle Layout 45 x 4 x 45
Storm VLS Conversion: 4 x 4 x 2.5

The Asylum is the Hybrid complement of the Deranged and the Disturbed.  This is in Roto Grip's HP3 line.   This is the first ball  out of the bag for me right now.  It allows me to really see what's out there and helps me to get lined up pretty quick. 

I first used this ball on a standard house shot with the OOB 3000 grit surface.  The first thing I noticed was how well this ball read the midlane  without suffering from making the move very early.  When this ball turns left it does not hesitate.   The asylum creates a very strong arc to the pocket which allows me to keep the ball in play no matter how difficult the pattern is.

On USBC Nationals Singles and Doubles Pattern this ball really performed. On the fresh I was able to square up with only a few board swing.   As the pattern broke down the Asylum allowed me to keep moving deeper and deeper without losing my carry.  The Hybrid cover gets the ball through the heads but still allows it to make the turn without going too far down the lane. 

I have tried a few different surfaces on this ball.  OOB the Asylum is 3000 grit.  The 3000 grit surface actually matches up very well.  Unlike some other balls I did not feel the need to change the surface right away after throwing it.   

1000 grit on this ball felt a little bit aggressive for me.  The ball read the lane pretty quick and almost tried to turn left as soon as I saw it reading the lane.  On a longer pattern this would probably match up very well but I did this on our house shot after league.   

The Asylum would be a great benchmark ball for anyone. A tournament bowler will surely find a place for this in his or her arsenal and if you are bowler who only drills a few balls a year then this is one you should consider. 
For those of you who have a deranged or would like to see this ball roll I have made a video which compares this ball to the deranged.   
 
 


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Re: Asylum
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2014, 10:47:33 AM »
The NEW Roto Grip Asylum has arrived and fits the gap that was in between the Deranged and the disturbed. The Hybrid cover over the Mid Roll 70 core is the perfect blend of solid/prl to give you the smoother motion through the front then the disturbed, and a more midlane roll compared to the deranged. I drilled the pin out with the ringer finger with a 45 degree shift, which is how i have its 2 brothers drilled like, and it did exactly what i thought by complimenting the other 2 when they needed help. The Asylum is a perfect tournament ball for medium to heavy oil. Own It!

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Re: Asylum
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2014, 04:39:00 PM »
Type of bowler: Tweener
Avg Speed: 17.5
Rev Rate: 375-400
PAP: 5 x ¾ up
Layout: 60 x 4 ¾ x 42

Looking for something that would get some length but have a cover that was strong and stable and not skid flip. I think this ball will fit that, but may need some alterations.

I picked the Asylum because I felt it would have more down lane than other balls that are predisposed to surface. I wanted length with strong roll, I got the length but the strength down lane is not quite there.

1. 40 foot tapered house pattern – Pattern has some volume so it’s not a bunch of free hook, but is not difficult. This ball didn’t handle the volume as well as I thought considering the surface. Once I squared up, the ball read the dry very well and was the strong continuous move I’d want balling down. However, anything left into the oil was not successful.

2. Nationals team pattern – Now this is an approximation at a local house, however, it is normally fairly true to the actual condition. The ball was very good as a third option when my early roll/surfaced equipment was too strong. Was able to stay right much longer than those on my team practicing with me. Useful on the tough stuff when you want to stay in the track area.

Overall, I think this is a good piece, just be careful that you’re matching the ball with the layout you want. It may take something significantly strong to make this ball have a strong motion. If you’re drilling to be a ball down option off other early equipment, it seems like a great option.
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Re: Asylum
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2014, 02:02:48 PM »
COVERSTOCK NAME: 63MH™
COVERSTOCK STYLE: HYBRID
COVERSTOCK TYPE: REACTIVE
WEIGHT BLOCK: MIDDLE ROLL 70™
COLOR:   NEON GREEN PEARL / BLOOD RED
FINISH:   3000-GRIT PAD
FINISH METHOD: CAN BE POLISHED
DUROMETER: 73-75 ON D-SCALE
FLARE POTENTIAL: 6"+ INCHES/MEDIUM-HIGH
WEIGHTS: 12LBS - 16LBS
SKU: RDO
RELEASE DATE: 01/07/14

My layout: 4 x 4 3/4 x 2
My PAP: 4 1/2 over 1 1/4 up

I almost start every review by explaining that I really prefer Solid coverstocks over Hybrid and Pearls.  I ended up really liking the Uproar but I can’t say the same thing about the Asylum from Roto Grip. I will say it was a ball that I didn’t give a big chance to because I was fixated on the Hyper Cell, as well as the Uproar,  and now the Zero Gravity from Storm.

I just never found the condition where I would just open up the lane or the pocket.  When the ball hit the pocket flush it looked powerful, but I didn’t see the same from hitting the half pocket. The ball motion was unique that it rolled fairly heavily, but I didn’t like the shape of it when it came out of the pattern. I also think a sign of a good ball is how well it sells a few months after it releases. I haven’t seen a ton of Asylums on the lanes in my area.  I throw the ball pretty straight, so I am fully aware that I may dislike balls that others bowlers like. For example I really didn’t like the Marvel Pearl from Storm but it really is a great ball that many people love.

I would also like to make everyone aware that on April 11, 2014 Amos Gordon shot 900, and more amazingly he followed that up with 875 {300,275,300}, and yes he did have the Asylum from Roto Grip in his hands both times. I will therefore plug and re-drill my Asylum one day and give it another shot. My rating for now is 2 out of 5. I will update this review if I learn to like the ball at a later date. 

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Re: Asylum
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2014, 05:56:34 PM »
Drilled this one 4.5X4.5 and added 3000 to cover.  On the fresh I had to start around 3rd arrow in my center and migrate left putting me left of 4th by end of league session.  Not a fan of playing that deep. I would definitely recommend this ball for those with fast ball speed or weaker revs.  Another great use of this is for those conditions where the back gets blended with carry-down and you need something that would cut through that mess.  And of course, this ball delivered the most recent 900 series on record.