Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
- Weight Block: Caliber Core (14-16 lbs), Modified Caliber Core (12-13 lbs)
- Ball Color: Charcoal/Yellow All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Lane Condition: Medium Oil
- Ball Finish: 1500 Polished
- Flare Potential: 4-5 inches
- RG: 16#-2.54, 15#-2.57, 14#-2.60, 13#-2.59, 12#-2.65
- RG Differential: 16#-0.051, 15#-0.048, 14#-0.044, 13#-0.045, 12#-0.035
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- Description: The Roto Grip Bandit showcases a dependable weight block shape and powerful coverstock. The Caliber weight block shape of the Bandit maximizes pin action, accomplished through increased energy transfer of about 12% when compared to traditional cores, and works for both rev dominant and speed dominant players. The Inception coverstock has a surface topography that showed Ra values up nearly 10% from previous blends. The Bandit handles a variety of conditions ranging from a typical house shot to tough tournament action. the Bandit provides a "long and strong" reaction.
Post by: TamerBowling on June 29, 2011, 09:20:43 PM
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Post by: rotogrip_rick on July 06, 2011, 06:32:40 PM
INTENDED TO START UP EARLY AND NOT OVERHOOK ON ANY MID LENGTH PATTERNS THAT ARE 37-39 FT SPORT PATTERNS.
TESTED ON WINDING ROAD, MIDDLE ROAD, ABBEY ROAD, AND BROADWAY
JUST AS PLAN, IT MOVED OFF OF THE PATTERN REAL SMOOTH AND DID NOT OVERREACT EVEN THROUGH IT IS A PEARL BALL. NICE MOTION THRU THE OIL AND THRU THE BACKENDS. WILL RECOMMEND THIS BALL TO EVERYONE AS A BENCH MARK BALL TO START WITH ON THS AND SPORT CONDITIONS. BOTH ONES I DRILLED REACTED JUST LIKE I PLANNED. THIS ONE AND ONE WITH A SHARPER BACK END ARE A NICE MID PRICE 1-2 PUNCH FOR ANY LEVEL OF BOWLER.
Rick Mitchell
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Post by: rotogrip_rick on July 06, 2011, 06:33:43 PM
BANDIT #2 – 40 X 4 X 20 PIN STACKED ABOVE FINGERS – BOX CONDITION
INTENDED USE FOR THS THIS IS 41 FOOT LONG AND ON REAL SLICK NEW LANE PANELS. TO BE ABLE TO BANK IT OFF THE GUTTER WHERE THE ONLY DRY BOARDS ARE ON THESE CERTAIN HOUSE PATTERNS.
TESTED ON THS 41 FOOT ON BRUNSWICK PANELS AND NEWER HPL PANELS.
WOW.... THIS BALL HOOKS MAD OFF OF THE DRY, A TON OF MOTION AND ANGLE STANDING 12 AND LOOKING AT 3 AND ALLOWING THE BALL TO WORK THRU THE LIGHTER OUTSIDE OIL AND STILL MAKE A REMARKABLE RECOVERY. THIS BALL WILL ALSO WORKS ON MID LENGTH OIL PATTERNS IF YOU WANT TO SWING IT THRU THE HEAVY MIDDLE TO THE LIGHTER OUTSIDE OIL... THIS BALL IS AMAZING...
Rick Mitchell
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York-Adams USBC board member
USBC Bronze Level Coach
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Post by: rotoguy on July 10, 2011, 03:33:03 PM
Post by: Rotoguy300 on July 18, 2011, 05:06:20 PM
Layout- Pin next to fingers, cg stacked with a medium size/depth hole out and just below the midline.
I was super excited to throw this ball (probably the ball I was looking forward to the most out of all the new Storm/Roto releases) and it absolutely did not disappoint. This ball is absolutely my ideal benchmark ball. It clears the fronts clean, it is super controllable through the midlane, it corners well enough to be able to use it in, but not so much that it precludes it from being used out and it continues as well as anything I’ve ever thrown. I threw it up against my Hy-Road and they were comparable in terms of strength, but what surprised me is that the Bandit was earlier, smoother, more controllable AND more continuous than my Hy-Road and these are all things the Hy-Road is known for. The reaction reminds me most of the Storm Eraser, which is my favorite ball of all time (hint hint powers that be, give me the Eraser again! Haha). It has a look that stands out on the lanes too. Countless people came up to me asking what that “Cool black and yellow” ball was. Overall this ball is about as close to a must have as any ball really can be in my opinion. It’s versatile enough to use on a multitude of conditions for a multitude of people and that’s rare in today’s hper-specialized game.
Post by: ajensen on July 25, 2011, 12:12:48 AM
On Saturday I bowled a local TNBA tourney that is being held at Maplewood Lanes in Omaha Ne. I threw the Bandit the whole day. It gave me the best reaction. Mine picks up a good mid lane roll while having the best downlane reaction that I've seen since the Pearl Cell. I had about 2.30 top weight before I drilled. No hole needed. My PAP is 5 5/8 over up a half.
I started the day with team and wasn"t throwing the ball great. Still managed a 622. When singles and doubles started that"s when I started to shine, with the help of the new Bandit. With a 279 in singles, and shooting a 678 series, I knew that doubles was going to be big. I left 3 ten pins all together and 3 splits. Two of the ten pins would come in the first game. One in the first frame and one on the last ball for a 289. The next game would be all strikes except the 3 splits. Two bad shots and a good one in the tenth that left me with he 7-10 split, all for a 211. Oh well, shake it off right? I did just that,after looking at the next seven strikes thinking, I should be able to finish with a 300. The eighth frame was not kind, leaving me the final ten pin I would see. I struck the rest of the way for a 279. Giving me a 779 series. All events I shot 2079.
I'm also bowling league and have the same average plus some.Glad the Bandit is my bag! Hope it's in yours.
(AJ) Andrew Jensen
Storm and Roto Grip Staff
(AJ) Andrew Jensen
Roto Grip Staffer
Post by: KENOMAN on August 02, 2011, 04:14:18 PM
Ball Weight:15 LB 3 OZ
KEN TAYLOR SR
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Post by: SenorRotoGrip on August 12, 2011, 08:35:55 AM
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Post by: AC10backRG on August 21, 2011, 08:18:17 PM
Sword line: Mid-price
Cover: Inception Pearl Reactive
Core: Caliber (new weight block)
RG: 2.57
Diff: .048
Rev Rate: 420+ RH
Average: 220+
Ball Speed: 16-18 mph
PAP: 4” over
Weight Hole: none
Layout: 50 x 6 x 50 (pin up)
Intent: Use on all patterns (sport/THS) when the conditions start to open up, only exception I would say would be higher volume patterns
I drilled my Bandit with one of my favorite layouts for symmetrical equipment. The pin is located above and slightly left of my middle finger, no changes were made to the OTB surface which is 1500 grit polished. As soon I threw my first ball I knew this was a keeper! The Bandit clears the heads and mid-lane extremely well with a strong backend motion maintaining superb hitting power as it continues through the pin deck. The Bandit is the perfect complement to the Nomad Dagger, one of my all-time favorite balls mind you. The Bandit is cleaner through the mid-lane and slightly less angular than the Nomad Dagger, perfect ball a notch under the Nomad Dagger!
Likes The Bandit floats through the head with ease storing all of its energy to its breakpoint, and then it goes left like a BANDIT! Another ball that seems like it will be in my arsenal for some time to come. Yet another great ball at a mid-price with great performance from Roto Grip!
Dislikes: No dislikes for me ….. For people with lower rev rates I would possibly suggest a stronger layout and possible surface adjustment pending the individual’s likes/dislikes.
Roto Grip Amateur Staff
Post by: rotogrip_rick on August 30, 2011, 12:14:55 PM
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Post by: RonCase823 on September 06, 2011, 11:23:36 AM
My Axis is 5 5/8 right, ¼ up, my speed is average and I would consider myself with higher revs but more up the back. So not a cranker but not really straight either.
Pin under ring finger, CG in poss thumb weight quadrant.
This ball is unbelievable! It goes through the front with ease and then is very angular. When it comes off the pattern it darts left and keeps going all the way through the pins.
I’ve used this ball on several patterns (high roller, TAT, PBA Regional and Kegal patterns) and it has given me more room for error than I ever thought it would. Even after about 100 games it still reacts like new.
This ball is definitely a keeper. Do not pass it up!
Post by: cmsubowler on September 07, 2011, 06:22:03 PM
Post by: RotoRyno on September 11, 2011, 08:08:12 PM
Post by: John Brodersen on September 18, 2011, 04:12:17 PM
Ball specs – 15 lbs 3 oz, 2.87 top weight, 2 7/8 inch pin.
The Bandit was drilled using the dual angle drilling method. The layout used was a 4 ½ inch pin to PAP distance with a 65-degree drill angle and a 25-degree VAL angle. No extra hole was needed. If you prefer Storm’s layout terminology it is 4 ½ by 5 1/8 with a 1 ¾ pin buffer. The cover was left in OOB condition which is 1500 polished.
The Bandit is very clean and lopes slightly through the fronts with about an additional three feet of length than the Outlaw. The response to friction on the backend is quicker and also stronger (more angular) than the Outlaw. The Bandit hooks less overall than the Outlaw but provides a lot of recovery down lane.
The Bandit is a great choice to use when the Outlaw is burning up and hitting flat.
John Brodersen
Post by: RG is King on September 18, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
Post by: michaelj on October 01, 2011, 05:43:48 AM
Bandit is a great compliment to the Outlaw.
My Bandit was drilled with the pin up above the fingers
The
Bandit goes 1-2 feet longer for me and has a more dynamic reaction to the
pocket. With the 1500 polished pearl
finish, once this ball gets a sniff of friction it wants to begin to hook. I like
to use this ball on the 39 foot house shot. I am able to swing the ball out to
4 or 5 and bring it back strongly to the pocket.
With
my medium ball speed and low rev rate I find this ball perfectly suited for my
game. I especially love the versatility
of the offering. Recently I used this ball on the 35 foot PBA pattern on wood.
When the heads began to burn out, it was nice to be able to switch to the Bandit,
move 2-3 boards to the left and watch the ball clear through the heads and
finish strong from the extreme outside angle.
Having
both the Bandit and the Outlaw in your bag will provide you with the range of
equipment you will need to compete successfully on most house or tournament
conditions and may be the best two ball combination on the market today.
Post by: michaelj on October 07, 2011, 11:19:54 PM
Bandit is a great compliment to the Outlaw.
My Bandit was drilled with the pin up above the fingers
The
Bandit goes 1-2 feet longer for me and has a more dynamic reaction to the
pocket. With the 1500 polished pearl
finish, once this ball gets a sniff of friction it wants to begin to hook. I like
to use this ball on the 39 foot house shot. I am able to swing the ball out to
4 or 5 and bring it back strongly to the pocket.
With
my medium ball speed and low rev rate I find this ball perfectly suited for my
game. I especially love the versatility
of the offering. Recently I used this ball on the 35 foot PBA pattern on wood.
When the heads began to burn out, it was nice to be able to switch to the
Bandit, move 2-3 boards to the left and watch the ball clear through the heads
and finish strong from the extreme outside angle.
Having
both the Bandit and the Outlaw in your bag will provide you with the range of
equipment you will need to compete successfully on most house or tournament
conditions and may be the best two ball combination on the market today.
Post by: bucko the bowler on October 23, 2011, 06:00:55 PM
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Post by: LarryH on November 15, 2011, 03:51:54 PM
Accomplishment: The Bandit with its new weight-block & Pearl Reactive finish will compliment Senior strokers & not just PBA power players. As a LH stroker, my 3 inch pin is 1 inch left & below ring finger and the ball goes long with a smooth flip to the pocket & super carry.I can go up 10 to start, but, move into 17-18 after several games. We had several lefties in a tournament Oct. 29th & after a 300 start, I moved in, staying in the light oil which took away the 7 pin leaves. Had high qual. 6 games of 1449. A great League & Med. oil condition ball for any age...Larry Hoffman, RG Advisory Staff
Post by: rotogrip_rick on February 21, 2012, 01:36:15 PM
INTENDED FOR HEAVIER AND FLATTER OIL LIKE US OPEN AND USBC MASTERS PATTERN.
TESTED ON KEGEL TURNPIKE, AND 2011 USBC MASTERS PATTERN, 2011 AND 2012 USBC OPEN CHAMPION PATTERN AND USED IT AT THE 2012 USBC MASTERS TOURNAMENT IN LAS VEGAS
THE BALL EVEN IN THE O.O.B. CONDITION WAS SHARP OFF OF THE DRY AND DID DELIVER A STRONGER THEN NORMAL ANGLE INTO THE POCKET.
ON THE OLDER LANE PANELS, IT WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE STRONGER THEN I INTENDED TO BE. I PLAYED DEEPER AND WAS ABLE TO CREATE ENOUGH HOLD, BUT THEN THE BALL TENDED TO HIT A TICK BEHIND THE HEAD PIN.
OVERALL, AN OUTSTANDING BALL FOR THE PRICE POINT. I LIKE THE DIFFERENT COLORS SO I CAN WATCH THE BALL MOTION BY WATCHING THE PIN AND BRIGHT GREEN SPOTS IT HAS ON IT. OVERALL A GREAT ALL AROUND BALL FOR YOUR BAG.
Rick Mitchell
Roto-Grip Staff Member
Roto-Grip Staff writer
York-Adams USBC board member
USBC Bronze Level Coach
York-Adams Bowling Hall of Fame Member
Post by: Henrik on March 13, 2012, 02:37:41 AM
Post by: StormRoto on March 31, 2012, 01:57:38 PM
