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Shout
« on: May 24, 2012, 10:56:29 AM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
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- Coverstock: 45L Solid Reactive
- Weight Block: Late Roll 46 (14-16 lbs)
- Ball Color: Blue/Orange All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Lane Condition: Light Oil
- Ball Finish: 1500-grit Polished
- Flare Potential: 2-3 inches
- RG: 16#-2.57, 15#-2.57, 14#-2.57, 13#-2.63, 12#-2.65
- RG Differential: 16#-0.022, 15#-0.022, 14#-0.022, 13#-0.009, 12#-0.011
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- Description: The NEW Late Roll 46 core was designed to provide maximum length with stable control down lane. This core will produce a minimal amount of flare and strong hitting power through the pocket.
The NEW 45L solid reactive coverstock was created for high performance on lighter oil conditions. It allows the Shout to easily clear the front part of the lane, but will react sooner than the 42L pearl reactive coverstock found on the Scream.
The NEW Shout was designed for those lighter oil conditions where you need a ball that provides you with good length and control at the breakpoint. It will react sooner in comparison to its partner in crime, the Scream.

 

John Brodersen

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Re: Shout
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2012, 03:14:39 PM »
Ball specs – 15 lbs 2 oz, 2.89 top weight, 3 1/2-inch pin.

The Shout, which is a polished solid, was drilled using the dual angle method.  The layout is a 4 inch pin, 50-degree drill angle and a 70-degree VAL angle.  An x-hole was placed in the P3 location.  Using Storm’s layout terminology the layout would be 4  by 4 3/8 with a 3 5/8 pin buffer.  The cover was left OOB which is 1500 polished. 

The pattern bowled on was a 41 foot, 24 micro-liter broken down house condition.  I had used a Defiant Edge and a Berserk earlier and was playing around 22 with them.  With the HP1 Shout I was able to move my feet 10 right and my target 5 right to get closer to the friction and get to the pocket.  The Shout was very clean through the fronts even on the broken down pattern.  The Shout made a smooth, predictable move off the friction into the pocket.  The hit and carry, especially on light hits was well above my expectations based on my experience with the Roto Grip planet balls.  Compared to the Scream the Shout was a little earlier and smoother off the break point.  The overall all hook was about the same as the Scream, just a different motion.

The new Roto Grip HP1 lineup of the Shout and Scream will provide additional ball choices and motions for those lighter oil or broken down conditions.


John Brodersen
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Re: Shout
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 10:18:09 AM »
Shout--- 50x6x70 layout-box condition
Patterns tested on: THS HPL, THS ½ HPL and ½ wood, and Cheetah and Los Angeles pattern
Ball tested well on the Cheetah and ½ and ½ THS and THS on HPL… This ball loves the shorter volume and shorter patterns. Did not over react at all and suited me better then urethane or the Rising Star and Shooting Star polished for the lighter patterns. Also worked well playing the gutter on the fresher patterns, once the pattern gets used; the ball loses some of its effectiveness. Overall, a great lighter pattern, lighter volume ball for tournament bowlers and a great ball for beginners and league bowlers that are use it for “hooking” and shorter THS patterns.

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Shout
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2012, 01:44:02 PM »
Lay Out: 5" from PAP at 50* PAP angle and 45* VAL angle. Dual angle measurement would be 50/5/45. The pin ended up about 1/2" above my ring finger with the CG swugn out from the ring finger. The 50* angle put the RG about an inch right of my thumb. I also have a weight hole 5" straight across the center line.

Surface: I am box finish which is 1500 Reacta-Shine.

Purpose: I wanted to drill up this up to see what it rolled like and also to get it on the lane beside other pieces in my bag. I had a Riot that I really liked when I needed to control the breakpoint more. Plus we have a lot of friction to the right of 10 on our house condition right now. I was hoping this would let me start closer to there if possible for better carry potential.

Lane Condition Observations: I have thrown this on a couple of different patterns: Left over shot the morning after a strong scratch league and all night open play, and second shift of our normal league pattern. The second shift was following a mixed league full of plastic throwers and head pin hunters. All I can say is I love the reaction of this ball. Strong arcing but predictable would be the best way to describe it. Our house condition is 38 feet on Brunswick Pro Anvil Lane. On the overnight leftovers, I had to start inside of 20 to find upfront oil to push this with and even then, it was still too early.  As long as I got it going with good direction and motion to my target, I had miss area right of the target by a couple of boards. I got to put it to use following the mixed league in front of us and this ball didn't disappoint. I left a couple of 9 pins late in the set, but was able to keep making 2/1 moves across the pattern and keep striking.

Response to Friction:I would rate this a medium to slower response in box condition. The motion is archy but not whippy off the spot. The response time  might go up some with a smoother surface but I can't see it becoming more than a little stronger arc.
 
Other Ball Comparisions: I did get to throw it some side by side with my Fire Road and Scream. The Fire Road was much earlier and stronger on the back end. The Scream suprisingly was a little sharper off the breakpoint than the Shout. I would imagine with all of the friction on our house shot, the polished surface of the Scream was making it change direction harder.
 
Final Thoughts: The Shout has the looks of a control ball for when the fronts really go or if you too much friction to the right of 10 on your league shot. If the Shout is too over-under on the house shot, just slap a 4000 abralon pad on it and that should cut down on the skid some. I can not wait to get this on some shorter patterns to see what it looks like.
"Tell me Cup, how does a great ball striker like you shoot an 83? Well I lipped out this putt on 18......"

Mike Craig - Storm Bowling Amateur Staff - Westerville, OH

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Re: Shout
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2012, 08:36:29 PM »
My Axis is 5 5/8 right, ¼ up, my speed is average and I would consider myself with higher revs but more up the back.  So not a cranker but not really straight either.

Drilled the pin 4 ½” and the CG 3 ½” from PAP (pin up).

This ball is pretty mild but still has some kick.  On the fresh oil it may not be enough, but once some games have been bowled it helps you stay in your comfort zone if you don’t like moving deep inside.  It is still strong off the dry board, but you need to hit the dry boards to see it.  After knocking the shine down a bit it did react better in the oil and it still keeps hooking through the pin deck.  Great ball for lanes beginning to hook for those who don’t need help hooking it. 
« Last Edit: November 25, 2012, 08:48:31 PM by RonCase823 »

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Re: Shout
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 03:57:01 PM »
Thanks for reading all and as always the video link associated with this review is here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUfI3mgj8Ds&feature=bf_prev&list=UUUdapKcbpNzp3PGwdo7P6GQ

Rotogrip Shout is a great entry level addition.  This ball drilled with 55 x 4 x 50 layout for me is in the bag all the time for me.  When things get squirrly for me on the lane I can pick up the Shout and push the ball based on my ball speed through the chewed up section of oil or hook around it easily.  The Core is a modification of the Rising star Shooting star and the SHatter.  Changing densities has allowed Rotogrip to make a ball that can be used for multiple skill levels and multiple games.  Surface changes are easy and last a long time with this ball.  Box this ball comes polished but I have used it box surface and scuffed surfaces on cheetah, viper and chameleon. The core just enhances the natural rotation put on the ball and when it encounters friction you can see how the ball picks up slowly and turns the corner rather than jumping off the spot.Great ball for the money and its not leaving my corner anytime soon.

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Re: Shout
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2013, 08:25:39 PM »
LANE CONDITION

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Speed: 18.5-19mph
Rev Rate: 400
Surface: Box (polished solid cover)

I got the Shout mainly for house patterns because I knew I could find a smooth reaction from a solid cover that would still be continuous through the pins. I chose a pin axis layout because of a very high rev rate and I still wanted to play a 15-7 or 8 line on my league house shot. This ball turned out to be everything I wanted and more. Fresh out of the box the Shout couldn't stay away from the pocket and after just my ninth game with the ball I had a sanctioned 800 series (811). This ball proves every bowler wrong that says low performance equipment is not able to carry and this smooth reaction is absolutely perfect for and league bowlers that want something that fits perfect to their local house shot. In just over 30 games in league bowling I had 2 300 games and an 800 series to start off the year. This is a great ball for a very reasonable price and I don't think any level bowler would be disappointed. You can also see my review on the Share Your Glory page or Roto Grip's website to verify the honor scores.

Tim Hulings- Junior
Robert Morris University (PA)
Roto Grip Collegiate Staff

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): House and Sport


COMMENTS

Likes: Smooth reaction, excellent pin carry

Dislikes: None


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