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Epic Battle
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
As the weak are eliminated, an EPIC BATTLEtm rages on! Roto Grip has forged the most effective weapon for the battlefield and puts it in the palm of your hand.

Armoring the EPIC BATTLEtm is the new Ultimate Visiontm solid particle coverstock. The unique blend of a super strong base reactive material in combination with a light particle load gives you traction in the heaviest of oils.

At the heart of the Battle is the new Maximus IItm weight block. This low RG (2.48) / High Differential (.050) core creates a Mass Bias Differential of (.026) that generates an earlier move in the lane, then delivers a bone-crushing backend reaction.


Factory Finish  800 machine sanded  
Track Flare Potential  7+ Inches  
Lane Condition  Heavy Oil  
Cover Stock  Ultimate Visiontm Solid Particle  
Weight Block  Maximus IItm Core  
Color  Crimson / Steel / Charcoal  
D-Scale  73 -75  
Available Weights  14 -16 Pounds
Spin Rate  5 Seconds (15lbs)  

Core Dynamics

16 lb.  2.47 (Low)  .046 (Medium-High)  
15 lb.  2.48 (Low)  .050 (High)  
14 lb.  2.52 (Med)  .040 (Medium)  

RG: X-axis  RG: Y-axis  RG: Z-axis  Mass Bias
2.483  2.534  2.508  .026 (15lbs)


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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2006, 11:49:28 PM »
TREY BALL UUNNNNNNHGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the 3rd and best RG ball I've ever thrown and it doesen't act like particle, this ball is a monster and its so predicatable its amazing. Carries and hard and hits like a brick. It doesen't hook through to pocket it just drives straight through it. I was very impressed with what I saw from the battle Maximus Core, for real this ball is the truth. Stop playing with your life and get one your game will thank you. And I shot 300 with it!! UNNNNNGH TREY BALL!!

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K.C. White II: And I did it My Way Hooking the lane with a high-end piece, an Epic Battle.  Take that Mr. Slater...I did it my way I got what I came for.

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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2006, 02:56:29 AM »
This ball is a horse. Hooking for days. Carry down is this balls best friend. With the speed and revs I put on the ball it can cross the entire lane and still hit like a tank on roids. A must have for oily lanes. Enjoy the looks from this ball.

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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2006, 01:17:18 PM »
4 inch pin
3.6 top

Pin 5 inches from PAP
MB 5 inches from PAP
Pin over ring finger
MB kicked out 2/5 inches

On the THS this ball rocks. It revs up going down and then when it hits friction is has a hard arc. Amazing. This ball sends pins across the deck.
I get the same reaction on wood and synthetic. I have never seen this ball roll out or lose power until the heads start to burn up. When carry down starts to happen you have to tighten your angles and go straighter. The cover is very versatile. Using different hand positions the ball responds perfectly.

I tried the Battle polished once and it went very long. But when it hits friction, it makes a sharper move compared when it is sanded.

Another great ball by Roto Grip.


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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2006, 01:24:13 AM »
Mine is a little different than most, it's a blem I know but so what. I finally drilled it last night and used it tonight in league. 4.5 x 4.5 weight hole above PAP pin above ring finger and thumb under MB (bit actually scraped MB due to larger than normal span, big hand!) 38 ft THS with carrydown from womens league before. RECOVERY MONSTER! Laydown at 25 out to 10 read the midlane wonderful turned the corner no problem. Anyone who says it doesn't like carrydown one is crazy or two can't get enough hand in the ball to turn it. We have carrydown and it hit the breakpoint hell bent for election and ignored the carrydown like it didn't exsist! Wonderful piece of equipment! Moved in 5 more boards last game playing just outside the middle arrow and missed the pocket area twice(bowler error). GET THIS BALL! I had the luxury that no one but myself played inside so had no issue with burning up. Another great ball Roto Grip! Keep up the good work!
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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2006, 09:25:19 PM »
15lbs 5oz, 2.5pin

4.75 x 6 layout with no weight hole thanks to offset CG

OOB condition this ball will cover any medium to heavy oil condition as long as you can find some head oil.  Battle absolutely ignores carrydown and I have seen it actually help at times with this ball.  This is the best oiler I have thrown, bar none.  Can play up the boards or swing it from 44 over 22 out to 7 and still carry.  

Battle is best when facing med-heavy pattern with some carrydown.  Only thing I have noticed is this ball picks up everything it comes near.  Part of that is the fact it has grey in the cover and it shows dirt easier than darker colors.  Battle needs regular cleaning due to its color and highly absorbent cover.  Overall a Great product from RotoGrip.
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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2006, 08:57:53 PM »
Back in March I posted a review about the Epic Battle and since then I've drilled 2 more! I will post reviews for the 2 new Battles with pics of both.

Epic Battle #1-Epic Battle Layout #1 MB on VAL

This ball is in its OOB finish. The layout is a 4in pin with the MB on the VAL. This layout was suggested by Ernest of the Roto Grip Tech Staff. The purpose of this layout was for 2nd Shift league shot/playing inside 20/with a large amount of carrydown. After using this ball for about 10 games I noticed that this ball rolls of the spot very hard and has a very strong continous motion on the backend. A few times I leaked the ball into the friction a bit too much but the ball seemed to ignore that and move just as smooth than if I threw it correctly, meaning this is a very forgiving ball.

Epic Battle #2-Epic Battle Layout #2
Surface Prep-Started with box finish,followed by a 1000 then 2000 grit abralon pad. Then used a particle polish.
Layout- 5 by 4 to pap with a x-hole 2 1/4in above pap. Same layout as my Epic Saga. I chose to use this layout because I wanted a ball that read the midlane a bit earlier than my Saga and that had a better reaction for fresher conditions. As expected, I got my wish. Compared to my Saga this Battle reads the lane about 3 feet eariler and has a smoother backend motion of the spot, but still has that continious backend motion that the Epic line is known for. I played everywhere on the lane from up 10 to just inside 20. It seemed no matter where I played this ball kept coming back for more.

Overall- Great Read, Great Recovery, Strong Backends= More strikes! What more could you ask for.

Thanks for reading and I hope this helps someone looking to drill this very versatile ball.
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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2006, 11:35:44 AM »
This ball is good for fresh oil, on the first one or two games. I have my battle drilled up to go long and snap hard on the back end. I also have it polished so it will go longer through the middle of the lane. With this combination, the epic battle is my most aggressive ball.


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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2007, 10:26:11 PM »
Roto Grip Epic Battle

Battle #1:

Pin to CG Distance 4.5 "
Topweight: 2-3 oz.

Layout:  Pin High (1/2 in. above ring finger) w/ Mass Bias kicked slightly out to the right.  (Not sure of Pin to PAP and Pin to Mass Bias distances.)

Reaction:  Lopes through the heads, strong late midlane and hard arcing backend.  

Surface:  500-grit

This ball was originally meant to be my heavy oil ball, but at first it went too long because of the long pin.  I took the surface down to see if I could make it work a little better on the heavy stuff and it helped, but not as much as I wanted it to.  I had it plugged and redrilled for a smoother and earlier roll and that made a huge difference.  This ball still isn't the heavy oil ball I was looking for originally because it doesn't roll early enough, but it's pretty good for carrydown and to control over/under.  On occaission, it's also pretty good to use to develop a shot because of the surface that was put on it.  If the heads are fried, put this ball away because it'll never get down the lane.  It's also very important to keep up the maintenance on the coverstock because this ball does absorb a little bit of oil, but not like the One series from Ebonite.  

Overall, I didn't get exactly what I wanted with this ball, but it was my fault because I didn't know how to pick a pin to CG distance back then.  But I was able to make it usable with a little work and I shot 706 with it in a Sunday night league with messed up backends and a pretty good wall inside 10.  

Battle #2:

Pin to CG Distance:  2.5-3 inches
Topweight:   3 oz.

5x3 (Pin Under and Mass Bias in strong position)

Revs up right off the release, strong midlane and hard arcing backend reaction.



After learning my lessons with Battle #1, I got a second Battle in an anyball summer league and this time I got the reaction I was looking for when I drilled the first one.  This ball rolls through just about any heavy oil pattern that I've looked at, has a very smooth transition from skid to roll which makes it a winner on heavier oil patterns or patterns that are wet/dry but have a decent amount of oil up front.  The hit and carry on this ball is amazing.  I have a Friday night league where they lay down a pretty significant amount of oil some nights.  Most of the guys in the league couldn't get their ball to roll through the pins the right way.  The Battle handled it without much of a problem as long as I kept the ball speed down and just let it roll off of my hand smoothly.  As with the other Battle, put it away when the heads start to break down and coverstock maintenance is a must.  This is my "go to" ball on heavy / long oil patterns, especially if the backends seem very tight.


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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2007, 09:49:32 PM »
Roto-Grip- Epic Battle

I just got this ball about a month ago and have thrown it quite a few times. Let me tell you  this ball gets up and goes.On a house pattern you can throw just about anywhere and still make the pocket, it is very good at reading the lane even if the one throwing it can't.

I have the ball drilled to go long and turn and it does just that, you can play almost any line with it 20 out to 10, fire for first arrow, or anywhere in between. The ball will get up and go. However if you play on little to medium oil this ball will not do the job, it will burn right through or across the head pin. I throw the ball about 16MPH and if there is light oil I have to throw about 20MPH to even have a chance at keeping it right of the head pin.

Overall this ball is a great ball for the heavy and sometimes moderate oil patterns. If anyone out there has attempted to polish their ball let me know what it does for you!


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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2007, 09:10:31 AM »
Best oil ball I've ever thrown.

Comes off my hand looking like its revving twice as fast as any other ball.

The low RG and cover keep it under control in the oil while it revs up and turns to hook. The Battle is just so continuous considering how early it starts getting to work.

I personally think that its the best match of core and cover that I thrown, and will suit, medium speed players with medium to high revs, down to the ground. Having said that I havent heard anyone that we've sold one to say a bad word about the ball, whether they be cranker or fluffer.

Colour scheme is great for making you look like you have hand. Core is truely a relevation, and if you like it as much as I do you should take a look at the Epic Saga, and Epic Odyssey as well. The cover is my favourite for controllable hook with its 1% particle load .. no question where this ball is going if you hit your target.
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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2007, 06:44:26 PM »
I purchased a Roto-Grip Epic Battle just over a year ago as one of two hook balls to start with learning how to throw a hook ball.  Yesterday I went and tossed the Battle at a new house. I shot a 235 and a 265 out of six games.  I really enjoy the performance of this ball and seeing as I'm still learning everyday to learn how to throw a hook ball, I am very satisfied with it.
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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2007, 01:56:42 AM »
I hadn't really wanted to post a review of this ball ,because i said i wasn't going to knock anymore balls just because it didn't work for me,but i just don't get it. I have had this ball redrilled 3 times and it is not ,in my hand ,a heavy oil ball. It is not a big hooking ball under any condition. I have played it on heavy oil light ,medium,you name it i have tried it and the only time i had any real success with it is when i polished it, but thats not what I got it for.
     I have had this ball since september and it has been let down after let down for me. I have never even seen another one in any bowling alleys i have bowled in ,never. So I guess i am the only sucker in my area still trying to use roto grip.
    The ball is drilled 3.5x4 with no weight hole it is in oob surface. I am a right hander stroker low revs and generally throw about 15 to 16 mph. Which is why i got this ball ,because it was advertised as a good ball for rev challenged bowlers,its just the opposite. It lumbers down the lane like a wet pillow. If it hits the pocket its a 10 pin. L know the old not enough oil,ball burning up cliche that you all are thinking,but i promise you this ball has the exact same move in every condition i have tried to use it on .It has a 3 to 5 board move period. This will be my last roto product.
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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2007, 12:03:17 AM »
Last Thursday set a personal high with mine a 279 and it a blem ball! tomanytenpins, your biggest problem is one you are a stroker and as a stroker you don't get enough revs on the ball to make it move, Second you are using I think the wrong ball for your game.Find a ball more condusive to your game and drill it strong layout. Might want to try a Horizon Solid or a Hammer No Mercy. I bowl with a guy who just bought a No Mercy and he's a cranker like my self but has alot more speed than I and he gets monster backend with it. A Black Widow might be in your future also.
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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2007, 07:51:34 PM »
I'm a Roto Grip staffer with a high ball speed and rev rate. I drilled mine with the pin over the bridge, cg swung out about three inches on the midline with the mass bias near the thumb and a small hole about 4 out and 2 up. I feel like this ball is one of the better balls on the market for hitting an oily condition. It does start to rev up quickly, but still has enough pop left on the back end to kick out the back row. The only people I don't see liking this ball are the extremes. Ultra low ball speeds or ultra high rev rates may not find the proper condition for it, pretty much everyone else can use it at least conditionally if not primarily.

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Re: Epic Battle
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2007, 08:16:32 PM »
I now Own 2 battle's drilled differently. one drilled for length the other drilled up for heavy oil or long patterns. This is by far the greatest ball i've thrown for heavy to med heavy oil patterns. not to mention it looks great rollin' down the lane.

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