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Haywire
« on: August 13, 2015, 01:41:50 PM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
Description: The Roto Grip Haywire takes the Middle Roll 70 core and pairs it with a 80H Micro Bite Solid coverstock that has been finished with a 2000-grit pad. This combination provides continuation on the heaviest of lane conditions.
Features:

- Color: Navy/Peach/Sky Blue (colors may vary from the picture shown)
- Core: Middle Roll 70 (14-16#)
- Coverstock: 80H MicroBite Solid
- Finish: 2000 Grit Pad
- RG: 2.50 (for 15# ball)
- Diff: 0.043 (for 15# ball)
- Recommended Lane Condition: Heavy Oil

 

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Re: Roto Grip Haywire By Keven Williams
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 07:07:29 PM »
Bowler: Keven Williams
Speed: 18mph
Rev Rate: 425rpm
Left handed


The new Roto Grip Haywire is one of the strongest balls on the market today! The main problem I had with the hyper cell was it was too strong in the fronts, and never kept a roll down lane. Even though it is an earlier rolling ball, it still continuous its strong roll down lane too. This ball is great for sport conditions and heavy oil. Best ball for its price point so you can’t go wrong with a Roto Grip Haywire.

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Re: Haywire
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2015, 06:39:40 AM »
Ball: Haywire
Layout: 60 x 4 x 40
Surface: box condition   
Test patterns: 41ft THS and 37ft sport pattern
Outcome: Oh WOW!!! Largest movement in the backend of the lane I ever seen. I was really surprise of the motion, maybe the colors have a part in it, but at first I could not stay off the head pin playing the same part of the lane I was with the Menace. BIG step right and look further down the lane helped me get the reaction and carry I wanted and needed. Oh my GOSH this ball is going to be the Ball of the Year… This ball was not affected by the ice/fire oil patterns I tested on as much as the Menace was. The ball push thru the “flood” and still drove thru the pins like a fully loaded truck and trailer, I have not seen pin mix like that ever, the new pins flew around like toothpicks. Like I said this will be the Ball of the Year, hands down…

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Re: Haywire
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2015, 04:49:26 PM »
BALL SPECS

Pin Length: 3"

Starting Top Weight: 2.7oz

Ball Weight: 15lbs.


DRILL PATTERN

Pin to PAP: 4 1/4"

PSA to PAP: 4"

Pin Buffer: 3 3/4"


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate: 430rpm

Ball Speed: 17mph

PAP/Track: 4 1/2" x 1/2" up


SURFACE PREP

Grit: 3000

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Sanded


LANE CONDITION

Length: 42ft

Volume: Med/Heavy

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

The new Haywire by Roto Grip is an absolute must in any bowlers bag! For league bowlers, this will be the perfect ball that allows lower/mid rev players to open up the lane and spray pins around like the crankers. The proven Middle Roll 70 core revs up easily and provide such an effortless move towards the pocket while still saving all the devastating energy needed destroy the rack. Wrap that legendary core with the 80H Microbite cover, one of the best coverstocks that we've seen in recent years, and you've got unmatched traction in the oil that reacts great to surface changes and a variety of lane surfaces. This ball can handle all the medium-heavy oil that you can throw at it. It could very easily become ball of the year and should find its way into every bowlers arsenal.

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Roto Grip Haywire Review by Casey Murphy
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2015, 04:05:28 PM »
Orientation:  Right Handed
Rev Rate:  375 RPM
Speed:  16-17 MPH
PAP:  4 5/8 straight across

Location:  Enterprise Park Lanes, Springfield MO
Pattern:  High Volume THS
Layout:  45, 6, 40

SOOOOOO glad Roto Grip brought back the Middle Roll 70 core!  (Disturbed, Deranged, Asylum).  In short this ball is has a Disturbed core with the Hyper Cell cover.  It’s Roto Grip’s version of the Marvel S but better, IMO, because it doesn’t rev up as fast and burn up trying to turn the corner.  This ball is a HOOK MONSTER on oil.  The roll is great and the reaction is unbelievable for the price point. 

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Re: Haywire
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2015, 07:01:38 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: Various Lengths

Volume: Various Volumes

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):  All Types


The newest addition to the RotoGrip HP3 line is the Haywire.  The Haywire combines the Hyper Cell cover stock (80H Microbite) with the disturb weight block (Middle Roll 70).  This awesome combination leads to a strong continuous hooking bowling ball.  The colors are eye catching and the reaction on the lanes is jaw dropping!

I drilled my Haywire with pin over the fingers and the cg kicked out about 2 inches from my center line with a medium size hole at 6 inches.  For the dual angle people, the coordinates are 45 X 5 ½ X 45.  My coordinates are PAP 5 5/8 over and up ¾, Rev Rate around 300, more up the back release and my ball speed is around 15mph.  I like to go straighter if possible.

I was able to throw the Haywire on various patterns and against a wide range of bowling balls.  The first pattern that I threw the Haywire on was a basic House Pattern.  The Haywire was way too strong for the dry house pattern that I bowl on but I kept moving left.  The Haywire did not lose too much energy compared to a Hyper Cell or Crux.  The Middle Roll Core adds versatility to the Haywire.  If I was going to only bowl on house patterns or dries lane conditions, a surface change and or some polish would be a viable option for the Haywire.  Unless you like to stand left and pitch it right then the Haywire is already setup for you!  The next pattern was Paris (47 Feet) which is a longer pattern compared to the house pattern (38 Feet) and has more volume.  What I noticed with the Haywire is the motion at the break point was aggressively controlled but super strong and the backend was continuous.  The Haywire was strong enough to make the turn if I missed in but was readable enough if I missed right.  Again the Haywire out preformed the Hyper Cell and the Disturb with its versatility and overall ball motion.  I only touched on two patterns but the RotoGrip Haywire was a gamer on the medium through long patterns. 

The RotoGrip Haywire is a versatile bowling ball that will stay in my bag! 



Likes:  The versatility and strength is unbelievable!

Dislikes: Sometimes HOOKS TOO MUCH!!!!


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Roto Grip Review by Brian Watson
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2015, 01:29:47 PM »
      The new RG in the HP3 Line is the Haywire.  RG took the successful Disturbed
core (Middle Roll 70 and wrapped it with the Hyper Cell Coverstock (80H Microbite).
This combination has created a very strong continuous motion.  The Color scheme has great shelf appeal.  I drilled mine with my favorite drilling  5 x 4 x 2 3/4 pin up.
This ball has amazing backend reaction and recovery.  It just doesn't quit on the backend,  even when you think you missed too far right the Haywire comes back.
I have used it on sport and house patterns.  On sport I added a little surface it to
blend out and tame down the backend motion.  For house I shine it up and can open
up the lane with this ball.  Its the disturbed motion on steroids.  This ball is going to be very popular with all bowling styles and this is going to be RG's home run!

Right Handed
Rev - 400
Tilt - 17
Speed -16-17

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Re: Haywire
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2015, 10:55:36 PM »
Haywire review by staffer Tony Marino

The Roto Grip Haywire is the combination of the Middle Roll 70 (MR70) core, featured in the Disturbed line, and combines it with the strong 80H Micro Bite solid coverstock. 

I have average to above average ball speed (~17MPH) which tends to balance out my rev rate. I drilled my Haywire like my favorite IQ Tour with the pin above the middle finger (6.25”) with the CG kicked out and small P3 weight hole.

I have thrown the Haywire on house patterns, as well as a multiple flatter Kegel oil pattern.  The first thing I noticed about this ball was the midlane shape. Even though the Haywire uses the strongest cover in any of the HP lines, it does not read too early. I was surprised how versatile this ball really is. The MR70 core is a perfect balance of powerful midlane hook and predictable length. I have already had some great success on some longer, heavier volume patterns. I recently won a tournament on the Kegel 45’ 2008 Istanbul Open oil pattern. The Haywire hooked back from an absurd part of the lane that gave me a huge advantage. If you bowl in a center that puts what seems to be the standard puddle in the middle this ball has the potential to strike a ton! Because of my speed and roll, I tend to use a lot of solid covers, and the Haywire gives me the entry angle and motion in the mids at fits very well in my bag.
 
If you have high ball speed, don’t generate much shape downlane or just have a hard time getting a ball to make a move in heavier oil, I would highly recommend the Haywire.


Want to see what I am talking about? Click this link to see my videos on this ball as well as other Storm and Roto Grip ball releases.

https://youtu.be/lvumu4N6z6w

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Haywire Ball Review
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2015, 12:53:28 PM »
Weight:  14 lbs.
Pin Length:  3 ”
Drilling:  4 X 3 3/4 X 2
Pattern Length:  39 ft. & 40 ft.
Pattern Volume:  Medium and Light
Pattern Type:  THS
Right Handed

The HAYWIRE has the symmetrical Middle Roll 70 weight block from the popular HP3 line, wrapped with the proven 80H Microbite Solid reactive cover stock.  The box finish is 2000 grit, but as always, can be polished or changed to suit a wide variety of lane conditions.

I have used the HAYWIRE on a 39 ft. light volume house pattern, and a 40 ft. medium volume house pattern. 

For the 39 ft. light volume THS, I tried the HAYWIRE at the 2000 grit box finish, but had better success changing the surface to 4000 grit and adding a bit of polish.   This allowed me to get the ball through the heads easily and save plenty of energy for the back end. I was able to move in with it, but found that by game 3, I struggled a bit with corner pins.  At this time, the UNHINGED became my “go to” ball.
Although the HAYWIRE has the same Middle Roll 70 core as the DISTURBED, I find the HAYWIRE to have more overall hook than I anticipated. 

On the medium volume 40 ft. pattern, the HAYWIRE performed best for me at the 2000 grit box finish. As the pattern broke down, I was able to move further in without losing my carry.  It is more aggressive coming  off the pattern than I originally thought.
If you are looking to possibly replace the DISTURBED in your arsenal, the HAYWIRE may be just what you’re looking for.  The HAYWIRE is very versatile with different surface changes, and even works well with a little polish for drier lanes.


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Re: Haywire
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2015, 11:31:11 PM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 42 feet. Stone street pattern on slick (hard) synthetic

15lb Drilled 5 1/2 inch 70 degrees 40 degree cg (5 inch pin)

Bowling variants 15-17 mph, 300-450 rpm, 20-30 degree axis tilt.

First thing I noticed when I let this ball go was how big the ball was, ideal for the revved challenged or speed dominant player to allow the ball to get into an earlier hook.  I wouldn't use the same drilling layout for that category of bowler though, but the coverstock and core would suit.

The next thing I noticed was how low it kept the pins on the pin deck, yet still sent messengers.   My local house has a high scoring stone street pattern, but is not kind if you use to much angle or lift the ball to hard.  I found with this ball I could use more angle than my other gear and the corner pin carry was higher, but I still had to lay off the shot a bit.  Fortunately the coverstock and smooth arcing weight block made the lanes easy to read and adjustments simple to make.

Using slower ball speed and higher rev rates was to much for his pattern, but this ball would be my first choice in long patterns or even the 42' if the edges weren't so dry.

I only used the factory finish, but will take this ball to my next international tournament (Indonesian Open) and polish it up if they lay a shorter oil pattern, I believe the core will be user friendly to coverstock changes.  Will let you know how it went if I do.




COMMENTS

Likes: smooth and predictable hook, keeps the pins in play (not jumping over the corner pins)

Dislikes: colour (but can't do much about that!)


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« Last Edit: September 09, 2015, 02:42:12 AM by Peter Brown »

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Re: Haywire
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2015, 09:30:36 PM »
Layout: 75 x 4.5 x 35 - box finish.

I drilled up the Haywire to give me something stronger along the lines of my Optimus Solid. I polished the Optimus Solid so I needed some more friction up front if the lanes got tighter. This ball is awesome on slicker lane patterns. It grabs pretty well and is still pretty continuous in the back. I have noticed that the moment I start pinging tens to either make a 4 and 2 move left or ball down. The Haywire is very strong and will need oil upfront to keep it from burning energy too early.
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Re: Haywire
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2015, 10:28:19 PM »
Roto Grip Haywire Ball Review by PJ Haggerty

The newest addition to the HP3 line is the Haywire and has become a fast favorite of mine.  This ball fits right in the middle of my bag as a great benchmark piece.  It is one of the stronger benchmark balls I’ve drilled and have been able to use it on several different patterns and surfaces.  I’ve drilled two of them so far.

The first one I drilled may have been drilled a bit too strong, but it still serves a purpose.  The layout is as follows:  4 x 4 with a 63/64 hole on my axis.  The purpose for this layout was to use it on heavier volume & flatter patterns.  Drilling the Haywire this strong definitely makes the ball read the lane early, and slows down the response time a lot.  I’ve used this ball when the lanes are tough and I’m not looking for a ton of motion down lane.

The second Haywire is drilled as follows:  5 ½ x 4 ¾ with a 27/32 hole two inches below my axis.  This one also has some shine on it.  With a weaker drilling, a polished surface, and a hole below my axis, this one creates more length and a quicker response time.  I haven’t been able to use it a ton on shorter patterns.  I’m extremely confident this is a great ball when there is a good amount of volume on the lane. 

The Haywire provides a strong, forward motion that compliments a lot of the more angular pieces very nicely.  Another great addition to the Roto Grip line!

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Haywire review by Mark Tarkington
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2015, 01:24:34 PM »
Right Handed
Ball weight:  15
Rev Rate:  378
Ball Speed:  18.2
Axis Tilt:  7
Axis Rotation:  45*
PAP:  3 3/4 horizontal, 7/8 up
Layout:  50 x 4 x 40

I drilled the Haywire for medium length and volume patterns, and was hoping that it would be versatile enough to use on our house patterns.  Quite happy to say that it is quite good on the house as well as sport patterns.

I’ve used the Haywire quite a bit on the house patterns around here and really like the shape I get at the breakpoint.  I am going to say that this is probably the strongest pin-up ball I currently have in my bags.  It gets through the fronts with ease, even when they start to break down and it recovers with a big move at the end of the pattern. 

After putting a few games on it, I really wish that I had drilled it with pin-down sums, but I really can’t complain.  This ball is just fun to roll.  My normal roll is pretty much up the back of the ball and this ball still clears the fronts really well, but when it comes time to make small adjustments in hand position or release, it accommodates these adjustments with no issue.  I am looking forward to getting many more games on the Haywire and can’t foresee any reason why this ball doesn’t stay in my bag for a long time.

The Haywire is a very special release from Roto.  This can be a great ball for anyone.
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Re: Haywire
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2015, 06:11:01 PM »
What haven't I said about the Roto Grip Haywire?? This bowling ball is a must have in your bag.  The Haywire has the Disturbed core with Hyper Cell cover.  The first Haywire I drilled, I was incredibly impressed. I have the pin above my bridge with the CG kicked right with an extra hole.  This bowling ball is perfect for me because it cuts through the oil in the middle part of the lane when the lanes are tight.  When the lanes open up, I can stick with the Haywire for most of the day.  It seems to me I can5'  continue to get left with this ball and it doesn't burn up at all.  The first pattern I threw this ball on was the 45' Scorpion pattern and it had no issue cutting through the long oil pattern. 

To me it's pretty simple... If you don't buy a Haywire, you're at a disadvantage.. I already ordered a 2nd one. 


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Re: Haywire
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2015, 10:26:33 AM »
The Haywire is the most recent release in the HP3 line from Roto Grip. This ball uses the same great middle roll 70 core that was previously found in the Deranged, Asylum, and Disturbed, but is wrapped with the 80H Microbite cover that is on the Hyper Cell. The numbers on the Haywire are Rg of 2.50, and a differential of 0.043 in 15lb balls. The Haywire has a guts, grit & grime rating of 70/80/H. This translates into a hook potential of 70, a cover strength of 80, and H for heavy oil. The Haywire has an unusual color combination  of Navy, Peach, and Sky Blue. Everyone will definitely know when they see the Haywire roll down the lane!

I drilled my Haywire aggressively because I needed a ball in my bag to compliment my Marvel S which is also drilled very strong. I went with a 3 ⅜ x 3 ½ x 2 ¼ layout. I placed an extra hole on my VAL about 2” down from my PAP(drawing a line from grip center through the CG, onto the VAL). This placement is roughly a P2, for those that use that system. The Haywire has given me exactly what I was looking for, a slightly cleaner, more angular Marvel S. I have used my Haywire on many different medium-heavy, and heavy oil patterns. The Haywire was the ball I used to propel my standings from 16th to as high as leading the tournament averaging 221 through match play on a very difficult 41 foot World Championship pattern, at the PBA Xtraframe Gene Carter Pro Shop Classic, in Middletown Delaware, (where I  would eventually qualify second for the show, and loose with a 242 game in that stepladder finals). The Haywire performed so well for me, because it didn’t bog down in the front of the lane, while not storing up too much energy, to be uncontrollable through the backend of the lane. The Haywire slowed down at the perfect time, to give me a wide pocket.

The Haywire shines on those medium-heavy to heavy oil conditions (with surface adjustments). I wouldn’t recommend the Haywire for dry conditions as there’s a plethora of other options for those conditions. In closing, the Haywire will be a great ball on medium-heavy to heavy oil for most bowlers. Stop by your local pro shop, and drill a Haywire today. Own It!
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