Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
- Weight Block: Triliptic Core (14-16 lbs), Modified Triliptic Core (12-13 lbs)
- Ball Color: Red Pearl/Silver Pearl/Black
- Lane Condition: Medium-Heavy Oil
- Ball Finish: 1500 Polish
- Flare Potential: 7+ inches
- RG: 16#-2.49, 15#-2.49, 14#-2.54, 13#-2.57, 12#-2.59
- RG Differential: 16#-0.051, 15#-0.058, 14#-0.049, 13#-0.032, 12#-0.029
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- Description: Following the huge impact on the market made by the original Roto Grip Theory, Roto Grip has created the Infinite Theory. This ball is for bowlers looking for a smoother glide through the heads with strong motion through the pocket. The Triliptic core helps the ball get into a roll easier while the Infinite theory's triple elliptical shape creates consistent axis migration and predictable ball motion giving the consistency needed. This ball also provides more energy transfer from the ball to the pins, increasing pin movement and therefore increasing strikes. The hybrid coverstock gives added versatility while the polished surface will float the ball effortlessly through the heads with a hint of Abralon for the benefits of a solid.
Post by: Rotoguy300 on February 04, 2011, 10:21:19 PM
Layout- Label- pinup and right of the ring finger, mass bias next to the thumb, cg in the palm, no hole.
After throwing a pair of Theories, my expectations for this ball were pretty high and it pretty easily met them. First game out of box was 258 with no warm up (and the first 2 shots were a 4 pin and a 9 pin as I attempted to line up). For a dull ball, the original Theory was pretty clean through the front, this ball was a touch cleaner as expected, with more angularity. It’s an absolutely flawless compliment to the original Theory, which in my opinion is THE ball to buy in 2011. It is also a nice color combination, the ball looks sharp enough to command the attention of a staffer from another company who shall remain nameless (lol) from a couple lanes away, which means it will command attention on pro shop shelves as well, always a plus.
Post by: rotogrip_rick on February 05, 2011, 11:51:15 AM
My specs: left hander, 230 plus average 3 & 5/8th and 1/16th up, 17+ plus ball speed ,bowl in several leagues in 2 counties and bowl in about every tournament locally and state and nationwide.
Ball specs: 11RITA25F092- Layout: 50-5 ¼-45 pin located directly above the middle finger and CG is at the center of the grip and the MB is located left and below the thumb hole.
Review: Tested ball on 41ft THS and Storm EBT tournament shot KEGEL (2940). Noticed on the THS I was able to play a strong swing shot and deeper with my feet. With my feet on 37 and looking at 9-10 at breakpoint the ball and enough energy to roll thru the heavy oil part of the lane and still able to make the corner and not slow down and cause any pin deflection issues. No weak shots and no weak leaves. Did notice on the Storm pattern, it took a little longer to get out of the skid part. Squared myself up and was able to play a deeper and straighter shot to the pocket without the ball developing any over/under look to it. A SUPER ball on heavy oil house patterns and also a GREAT ball for the heavy handed bowlers to have a pearl coverstock that won’t over hook.
PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOSRick Mitchell
Roto-Grip Staff Member
Roto-Grip Staff writer
York-Adams USBC board member
PSBA Sergeant at Arms
USBC Bronze Level Coach
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Post by: TamerBowling on February 09, 2011, 09:16:57 PM
CONDITION
Length: 41ft
Volume: Medium
Type (THS,Sport Pattern etc): THS
COMMENTS
The Infinite Theory is a hybrid coverstock with a pretty strong, early revving core. My immediate first impression was that this ball will be extremely versatile. It has the capability to control the midlane with that strong core, yet also has the punch to provide a pretty strong backend reaction. That should be the signature of a hybrid and I think a lot of people are going to like this ball. I think it has the potential to be a benchmark ball for a lot of people. Don't think of "benchmark" or "control" as equal to "weak" or "tame"
backend. It is very capable of generating high entry angles. This ball can easily be used on a fresh shot but is also capable of chasing the oil in for many games while still being able to generate ample entry angle to carry the corners. I had no problem using this ball for 7 games straight.
On the fresh shot, you can get the control you need with lower entry angles and when the shot begins to breakdown, you can start to move in while still carrying.
http://tamerbowling.com/index.php/roto-grip-infinite-theory-ball-review/
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Post by: KENOMAN on February 19, 2011, 10:36:51 PM
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Post by: lil League Coach on February 20, 2011, 07:19:00 PM
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Post by: John Brodersen on February 24, 2011, 11:55:37 AM
Ball specs – 15 lbs 2 oz, 3.26 top weight, 2-¼ inch pin.
I really liked the motion of my Theory (please visit my review for specifics) so I decided to drill the Infinite Theory with a similar layout but looking for a little more length from the layout and the hybrid cover stock. The Infinite Theory was drilled using the dual angle method with the layout being a 4 ½ inch pin, 60-degree drill angle (larger than my Theory) and a 70-degree VAL angle. An x-hole was not needed due to the CG being left of a line drawn from the pin to the factory marked PSA (RG). Using Storm’s layout terminology the layout would be 4 ½ by 5 by 4. The cover was left OOB.
Bowling on a very flat (I’m guessing 2:1 or less ratio) sports pattern the Infinite delivered as expected. It was cleaner and longer thru the front, picked up later in the mids and provided a stronger move on the backend than the original. The Infinite provided another great overall ball motion with tremendous hit and carry.
Post by: Mr Scary on March 02, 2011, 09:13:54 AM
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): House
Drill pattern: Drill angle – 60 Deg. Angle to VAL – 70 Deg. Pin to PAP – 4” 15 lb. Box finish
After drilling up 2 Theory’s I thought it couldn’t get any better, I was wrong. This ball is incredible. It clears the heads very easy and rips through the pins the same way as the Theory. The Theory and Infinite Theory really complement each other. The hybrid coverstock compliments the core very well. To see the ball reaction, please go to the link below.
Chris Slagter
Roto Grip Amatuer Staff
Post by: clashbowler09 on March 06, 2011, 12:26:53 PM
Rebekah Diers
2009 Clash of Champions
Amateur Roto Grip Staff
Post by: SenorRotoGrip on March 07, 2011, 09:48:36 AM
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Post by: SenorRotoGrip on March 07, 2011, 09:50:19 AM
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Post by: Dino74 on March 07, 2011, 03:19:16 PM
Post by: rotogrip_rick on March 24, 2011, 09:43:53 PM
Rick Mitchell
Roto-Grip Staff Member
Roto-Grip Staff writer
York-Adams USBC board member
USBC Bronze Level Coach
York-Adams Bowling Hall of Fame Member
Post by: ajensen on March 26, 2011, 03:38:07 PM
I Drilled mine up with the pin below fingers with a 5x3 pattern leaving a need to put a hole low in the P2 region.
This ball could have been called CDL. For that is exactly what you get out of this , is a semi truck driver with you behind the wheel. This ball is a perfect set up to back the Theory(Original).
What I have found with this ball on house or sport patterns is that it reads the lane very well and gives you geat backed to get rid of that pesky 7 or 10 pin. I have had nothing but great success with the Infinate Theory averaging 220 plus with it any where I throw it.
Lately I was asked to work the Storm and Roto Grip booth with Kenny and Mark at the National Bowling Stadium in Reno, NV. What an honor! In my third day here I was able mapand drill an Infinate Theory for a guy that came back to the booth to let me know that he had changed to that ball and shot 279. He also came back later and said he took over All Events. How cool! Congrats to him!
(AJ) Andrew Jensen
Roto Grip Staffer
Post by: rotomike on March 29, 2011, 07:30:16 PM
I love love love the Infinite Theory. I have drilled three so far.
I have just returned from the USBC Open Championships and the Infinite Theory was my ball of choice throughout the entire tournament. As I write this the current All-events leader used an Infinite Theory.
The key to the Infinite Theory is the combination of the Triliptic core with a hybrid cover.
The core is designed to provide a more consistent motion with a sharper breakpoint. I like to think of it as a Cell Pearl but bigger in the back.
The Insight Hybrid cover provides a better launch through the fronts than the Theory but the traction additive still gives great reads in the midlane. The cover takes surface changes very easily and with great results. I threw one Infinite with a 1000 scuff on the fresh and when the lane broke down I switched to an Infinite with 2000 scuffed finish and kept on performing.
The hitting power of the Infinite Theory is impressive. My carry percentage on light hits has gone up quite a bit.
Infinite Theory #1
pin 6" to pap above fingers
Mass bias is located next to the thumb hole
Infinite Theory #2
pin 4 3/4 to pap below ring finger
Mass bias is 1 1/2" from thumb towards val
Infinite Theory #3
pin 4" from pap next to ring finger
Mass bias is next to val
Infinite #1 and #3 are way stronger than the layouts suggest.
I recently drilled one for a league mate who was getting trapped between his stroker and cranker teammates. With the Infinite Theory he was able to get closer to his cranker teammates early and can keep a sustained reaction as he moves left during league play.
Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Staff Manager
Kingdom member for life
Post by: RG is King on March 30, 2011, 09:11:04 PM
Roto Grip Infinite Theory
When I received my new Infinite Theory, I went and threw it on Kegel's Route 66 pattern. Box finish for me really cleared the fronts extremely well with a STRONG move toward the pocket. But for me box finish was a little too shiny. So I took it down with a 4000 pad just knocking the shine off a little. Big improvement but still not enough for me. So I took a 2000 pad and went over it and that was perfect. The ball still cleared the fronts with ease and read the mid lane perfect and was just as strong on the backend as before but now a strong continuous arc. I compared it to my original Theory and both balls performed very well. The Theory was quicker starting up and strong arcing move to the pocket and the Infinite Theory was cleaner through the fronts with a strong mid lane read and continuous backend movement. These two balls would give you an excellent one two punch.
Post by: cmsubowler on March 31, 2011, 11:56:14 PM
Well here goes. I used my favorite layout in this ball which is 65 x 4.5 x 65 which has given me a very useful ball reaction no matter what ball I have put it into. I compared this ball to the obvious choice the original Theory. As you can see in the video i was able to use this ball on a variety of lines. The hybrid coverstock allows this ball to move easily through the front part of the lane while still allowing the ball to read the back part of the lane even on longer heavier oil. Pushing the ball past the track area to the drier outside part of the lane you can see how the ball picks up in the midlane and continues on the backend. The hybrid cover really allows this ball to be used as the lanes begin to transition. The hitting power is great no matter what line you decide to play. The angles this ball produces are not extreme but the heavy roll that is created allows the 6 pin to snap the ten out off of the side wall. This ball is a great benchmark ball that can be used on a variety of conditions.
Post by: rotostlgrip on April 08, 2011, 09:30:05 AM
Infinite Theory
Layout – Pin 1.5 inches above ring finger, MB right by the thumb
Finish – OOB
Hybrid, hybrid, hybrid. Just as expected, you get the best of both worlds. Clean like a pearl, strong like a solid. I can’t ask anything more from this ball. It’s a great bench mark ball for your typical league bowlers. Very easy to control. Definitely a perfect compliment to the Theory. This easily makes it to my list of favorite balls of all time.
Pro Shop Review:
As a pro shop operator, this ball is a very easy sell. It just plain fits the majority of your bowlers. Shelf appeal is nice, not too dull, not too bright.
Edgar Atienza
Roto Grip Staffer
Manager of Best Bowling Pro Shops - Plaza Lanes, St. Charles, MO
edgar@bestbowlingproshops.com
Post by: Tess8456 on April 18, 2011, 08:46:33 AM
Post by: Bigmike on May 12, 2011, 10:13:49 AM
Lay Out: 4 3/4" from PAP at 60* PAP angle and 40* VAL angle. Dual angle measurement would be 60/4.75/40. The pin ended up above my ring finger and there is a 7/8" weight hole down my axis point in the P3 position (2 1/2") drilled 2" deep.
Surface: I started at box finish which is 1500 Reacta-Shine. I put a 1000 Abralon (abr) on it to take to USBC's to have a strong hybrid/pearl with some surface in case they got real wet/dry. I have went ahead and knocked it down to 500 and then 4000 with a used abralon pad. This put some shininess on it, but not the factory shine.
Purpose: I wanted to drill up a ball to duplicate the reaction that I had with an Virtual Energy (VE) last year. I was able to use this VE when there was some volume in the front of the lane, but slight carry-down to the back ends. Looking at the numbers on the Infinite Theory (IT) and it's hybrid cover-stock, I thought this should be a perfect replacement or close.
Lane Condition Observations: I have thrown this on our house shot and on a couple of sport/flatter patterns that have more volume/longer distance. On the house pattern with the box surface, I had to get on top of the oil line to have a chance for the ball to hold energy. If I get it out to the dry too early, it is half tens. With the duller surface, this ball picked up much better and was strong enough to get those corners out more often. On the longer USBC pattern, the dull surface gave me a look right up the edge. The reaction for me was controlled arc and very good pin carry when surface is matched up to lane condition.
"Tell me Cup, how does a great ball striker like you shoot an 82? Well I lipped out this putt on 18......"
Mike Craig - Storm Products Pro-Shop staff -Columbus, OH
Post by: LarryH on June 08, 2011, 12:04:10 PM
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Infinite Theory Review
Name: Larry Hoffman RG Staff Roto Grip Product: Infinite Theory..
Accomplishment: As a 73 yr. old LH Stroker, each year it seems to get harder to compete in the USBC Nationals, but, again RG gave us the ball that has kept even the Seniors in the Competition. Bowling in a Sport League was a great help when the Infinite came out.. With the 3 inch pin below the ring finger & CG out a little and surface taken down to 1000 I could go up 2-3 board with hand behind ball & get a smooth reaction at the break point to the pocket & strong carry...Case in point....in Reno USBC in April I started in at 7-8 since back-ends appeared a little softer than my sport league. But, after a 176 start in team, I moved out to 2-3, and finished with 1946 ale, My 3rd highest at Nationals....Of my 8 open splits(4 were pocket 7-10s) not enough fingers & speed..plus 58 Strikes...As long as RG keeps these balls coming, the Seniors can keep competing...Larry Hoffman, RG Staff
Post by: elvismat on June 27, 2011, 08:05:17 AM
Post by: RonCase823 on September 06, 2011, 11:21:56 AM
My Axis is 5 5/8 right, ¼ up, my speed is average and I would consider myself with higher revs but more up the back. So not a cranker but not really straight either.
Drilled 2 of these . . . first one pin above fingers, CG in grip, MB in strong position. Ball has good length and a strong continuous hook on back end. Will need some oil to help get down lane. As for the strong characteristics of this ball with this drill I can go straight and hard and still get it to finish well or I can move inside and slow the speed a bit and get the ball to turn the corner quite well.
Second ball I drilled with the pin below the fingers, CG in grip, MB in strong position. This ball definitely hooks sooner and works really well on wet dry conditions where you can move inside and either bump it off the dry or keep it in the oil and let the ball do the work for you.
For me the higher pin works great when going straighter because when I miss my target inside it still goes long enough to hold the pocket and the center pin works good when going left to right because the ball will start up before it goes too far down the lane.
This ball should work great for most styles. Just pick which way you like to play and set it up for that and you’ll love it!
Post by: bucko the bowler on October 23, 2011, 06:21:44 PM
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Post by: jeff_mersch on February 08, 2012, 11:01:00 PM
Layout on the ball is dual angle layout 35x5x65 with no balance hole.
I am a left handed tweener with a 325 rev rate.
The infinite theory is another great ball from Roto Grip. The core is fairly strong and starts up pretty early. The hybrid cover is very clean in the front and strong on the backend. This ball is very versatile. I have used it with all different kinds of surfaces on it. I would consider this ball a great benchmark ball to give bowlers a great read on all different types of patterns.
Jeff Mersch
Roto Grip Amateur Staff
PBA Member
Post by: UF bowling on May 19, 2012, 10:21:14 AM
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Post by: tommyboy74 on December 03, 2012, 12:05:01 AM
Length: 43 ft on Brunswick Anvilane
Volume: Heavy
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS
COMMENTS
Likes: Extremely clean through the heads, capable of higher entry angles, carry power
Dislikes: A little over/under with box finish
The Infinite Theory is another great ball from Roto Grip. I ended up with mine in a 4 ball deal through user sps300 and have now gotten the chance to use it a bit. On this ball, I decided to go with a 4x4x1 layout where I would have versatility on different conditions with a strong back end.
Throwing the ball on a fresh 43 ft house pattern with Brunswick Anvilane, the first thing I noticed was how clean the ball is through the heads. With the heavier oil, I noticed that the box finish proved to be a little over/under with me. However, keep in mind that my ball speed is around 19-22mph and have a rev rate of 420-430. If my speed got a touch fast, the ball would tend to skid a bit more at the start.
Compared to my Rogue Cell, the Rogue Cell starts reading the midlane earlier and has similar hook overall. This is because the Rogue Cell comes with 4000 as the box finish whereas the Infinite Theory comes 1500 polished.
The carry down proved to be where the Infinite Theory shines in my arsenal. Once the pattern had more friction in back (game 2), the ball had no problems on the back end. In fact, when I swung it wide a few times, the Infinite Theory was able to generate a ton of entry angle and had no problems recovering. It is very good with carry, keeping the pins low, and have been able to generate multiple messengers so far.
At the normal place I bowl, I could see this being an option to start with since our house pattern is more of a medium to medium-heavy volume. The back ends are also cleaner to start, so I would have friction to work with. From there, I could either move left and open the lane up, use speed and play tighter lines outside, or ball down to my Outlaw.
Bottom line is that the Infinite Theory is another good ball from the guys in Utah. If you are a little more speed dominant and want to use this on heavier patterns, definitely take a pad to scuff some of the polish off. Average and lower speed bowlers should have no problem with the box finish.
However on medium and medium-heavy conditions, this ball is money. Absolutely worth it.