Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
The newly designed Orbiter II core with an RG of 2.61 and a differential of .018 was developed to spin smoother and more even along its rotational axis while delivering gravitational shattering pin action.
The Sure Grip IItm pearlized reactive coverstock is the perfect mantle for creating less friction with the atmosphere while traveling along its orbital path.
Once again Roto Grip delivers you the ultimate in price versus performance with its newest planet series ball.
Specifications
Factory Finish 1500- grit polish
Track Flare Potential 2 Inches
Lane Condition Light - Medium Oil
Cover Stock Sure Grip IItm Pearl
Weight Block Orbiter IItm Core
Color Aquamarine / Violet Blue
D-Scale 75 -78
Available Weights 10 -16 Pounds
Core Dynamics
WEIGHTS RG DIFFERENTIAL
16 lb. 2.60 (High) .020 (Low)
15 lb. 2.61 (High) .018 (Low)
14 lb. 2.63 (High) .017 (Low)
13 lb. 2.67 (High) .017 (Low)
12 lb. 2.67 (High) .017 (Low)
Post by: King Fozy of Billingshire on March 10, 2007, 02:12:35 PM
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Post by: RonCase823 on March 12, 2007, 09:52:50 AM
The ball has more hook than I expected. It goes very easy down the lane with no early hook, but is reasonably strong at break point. Has worked better when the heads have dried and there are still some back ends. Will need a little bit of dry boards to make a sharp break but by no means a straight ball.
Post by: MoonsLefty on March 13, 2007, 10:58:17 AM
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Rob Haverstock
Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Post by: King Fozy of Billingshire on March 15, 2007, 12:19:35 PM
if you are looking for a second squad ball... this is the ball, and its pretty affordable too
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Post by: fortunems725 on March 19, 2007, 09:14:07 AM
Post by: King Fozy of Billingshire on March 23, 2007, 03:31:11 PM
BARBED WIRE... THIS BALL IS THE REAL DEAL ON HOUSE CONDITIONS
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Post by: big hank j on April 07, 2007, 09:53:22 PM
I drilled this ball 5" x 3 3/4" with pin just above the ring finger. Weight hole on vertical axis line 1" down. This ball has all ready proved to be very useful on medium dry to dry for me. Out of my hand, the roll is smooth arcing and easy thru the front. This ball does not labor on the backends, especially playing a little straighter. So far this ball is what I go to when playing straighter on drier conditions.
Hank Jordan
Roto Grip Advisory Staff
Post by: Stromberg794 on April 25, 2007, 12:21:23 PM
matthew stromberg
roto grip advisory staff
Post by: John Brodersen on April 25, 2007, 03:11:24 PM
The Neptune was drilled with a 4.75 X 65 degree layout. This put the pin ¾ of an inch above the ring finger and the non-marked mass bias ½ inch right of the thumb.
The Neptune provided me with the cleanest look through the front ends of any Roto-Grip ball to date. It also appeared to roll smoother (less early lope) than the other “Planetsâ€. The backend reaction was a strong arc and for an “entry level†ball†the hit and carry was very good.
While still not an orb for burnt conditions, the Neptune is Roto-Grip’s weakest “Planet†release to date. On light oil conditions it will provide a very clean front end with a predictable backend move and very good carry. The Neptune is another great release in the can’t be beat, “Bang for the Buck†Planet line.
John Brodersen
Post by: Fidel Andrade on May 04, 2007, 11:46:34 PM
Post by: phil1776 on August 09, 2007, 12:47:10 PM
inch pin with pin above bridge and cg under ring (cgnomaddah). And doing a great job. Kenny knocked a little of the shine off do avoid flipping at the backends. While this did give me more arc, it was checking up a tad early the 1st and 2nd games. Went back to oob finish, now I'm a happy camper. Ball carry was great and even carried a couple of off pocket hits. One team member was so impressed that he could not believe it's an entry level ball. Of course this was a newly dressed house shot. Ball clears the heads very well, retaining energy for the backend. Did not seem to over re-act to the dry. Due to my high revs and low ball speed, I think she's a keeper. This is my first review, so please be kind.
Phil
Post by: bowlersrus on August 14, 2007, 06:36:18 AM
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Post by: Strapper_Squared on September 19, 2007, 01:38:36 PM
My first league night after drilling the ball was "supposed" to be the 39' Chameleon pattern. As typical with this house, the lane machine did not function properly and the lanes were absolutely flying to start the evening (later found out that the oil pump in the machine wasn't producing enough pressure, therefore the pattern had a significantly lower volume of oil than normal). After a few warm-up shots, I quickly saw that all of my other equipment was out for the night (literally hooked at the arrows), so I decided to give the Neptune a shot. Lined up with my feet on 21, crossed 12 at the arrows out to around the 5 board. Once it reached the end of the pattern, the ball had a surprisingly strong "flip" on the backend and missed the head pin left. The ball pushed through the heads surprisingly easy... much better than anything else I own..so I knew that I had some sort of shot. I made a few adjustments, both on the lane to get a little deeper and with my hand position to get a little more forward roll and less backend reaction, and ended up standing around 28 on the approach and shooting for the 8-10 board at my breakpoint (usually where the lane number reflect back onto the lane surface.. around 45' down the lane). Great length and a strong, controlled backend reaction. I had a little room to miss outside, due to the stronger recovery of the ball, but couldn't pull the ball inside (again, bowling on a very low volume version of the chameleon pattern). Overall, I had very good control of the breakpoint with this ball (compared to the other bowlers who where trying to throw their more aggressive equipment with tons of speed). I experience an phenomenal carry percentage...think I left one pocket 10 pin and 1 pocket 7 pin over the course of three games. Ended up shooting 650 to be high set on the pair.
Providing there is enough friction, this ball seems to carry well from inside angles. Easy length with a fairly strong move on the backend. With my layout and surface prep, the ball definitely needs some friction to work best. I would think that this ball could tend to be over/under if a decent volume was present on the lane or carry-down existed. I have tried a number of other "dry-lane" reactives and all of them either hooked too much/too early, were very inconsistent at the breakpoint, or just had no recovery on the backend. The Neptune seems to have all of these characteristics, making it a great choice for drier lane conditions.
S^2
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Post by: Will07 on November 25, 2007, 05:41:28 PM
Allot of people who have thrown the Neptune say you really need burnt conditions to make the ball hook
I have to disagree
I’m a cranker 400-450 rpm @ 17-18 mph
This is the third ball out of my bag as the lanes transition
this ball has a high rg and low differential is not meant to be a flare monster but still seems to have a decent kick on the backend.
For an entry level ball the Neptune is very good for dealing with drier lanes, especially if you’re a cranker
My drilling
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Ball goes long and arcs into the pocket on dry lanes great go to ball for crankers on ths
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Post by: n00dlejester on April 20, 2008, 11:54:25 PM
I have this bad boy drilled identically to my T-Road Pearl: 6 inches pin to PAP, ~3.5 CG to PAP. Looks something like this:
---*---- <- Pin
--o-o---
-----*-- <- CG
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My PAP is 4.5 inches over, I'm a stroker with medium speed and a very forward roll.
So far I have kept this ball OOB for all shots I have thrown, and if there was one word to describe this ball: "Long" Length is never ever a problem with this piece. It can go long as day and probably then some. I have bowled on a variety of shots with it.
House #1: Fresh THS, about 41 feet in length and WET. Yeah, don't use a Neptune here.
House #1: Not so fresh THS (after about 10 full games) When my other stuff began to check up too early, I could throw this Neptune up the boards without a problem. It got down the lane ~45 feet and made it's smooth move into the pocket. I must say that it was a beautiful move too, nothing too drastic or wild in the back.
House #2: Cheetah pattern. This 5 game tourney on the Cheetah was very different that my other experiences on this pattern. Outside of 5 was out of bounds, and the back of the pattern was VERY flat. I found myself playing straight up 6-7-8 and having relatively good success with my Storm Pyro. By the time games 4 and 5 rolled around, that was checking up too early and I switched to the Neptune and it gave me a beautiful look that wasn't having any problems going too heavy. This was the reason I bought it basically, and I loved it.
House #3: Cheetah pattern. This 3 game tourney was on the DRYEST Cheetah. Ever. I found myself throwing the Neptune from ball one, standing at 20, throwing 15 to 6 and having trouble keeping my speed up. I've never seen people play left to right on this pattern until I went to this little tournament. I had some success, but the Neptune was really jumpy off the spot and I was having control issues. Maybe the Neptune is too strong to handle the dead dry stuff? Who knows.
Back to House #1: State tournament, 3rd shift (they had about 25 games on it by the time I got there). So this shot was absolutely dead. I had good success with my T-Road Pearl, but once that started hooking too early I went to my Neptune, and it was a gorgeous gorgeous look. It had a monstrous margin of error to the right, and it would hold if I tugged it, and this is on SLOP! I was so happy with it! But again, I found it to be very speed sensitive and by the end of my 6th game (31st's for the lanes), the Neptune was wicked off the spot.
All in all, the Neptune is a great ball for drier lanes, but not bone dry (at least in my experiences so far). I may change my thoughts on this after some surface tinkering and playing more with it going more left to right. The hit is always good, the carry is always good. Yes, I've left corner pins with it, but that's partially due to me using it on more oil than is intended. With the right conditions, this ball is a dream come true (like that state tourney I did today, I was the only one not throwing it as fast as possible from at least the 30 board). Despite it's sometimes surprisingly strong backend, this ball does what it's designed for with flying colors. And as a lovely lovely surprise, it doubles as my spare ball. I've actually only missed 2 or 3 ten pins in the 2 months I have this ball, MUCH better than what I usually do.
So all in all, if you're looking for a piece for dryer/short patterns, or if you find your other stuff rolling out or crushing the nose, then go get yourself a Neptune. Just be wary of it's unusually strong backend off the dry. I'm going to give an update after I get it hit with a 2000 pad and maybe a spot of polish. Any questions feel free to PM me!
Post by: Asura on June 22, 2008, 09:12:16 AM
Revs: 270-300
Ball speed: 16.5-17mph
Target: 12th towards 7-8th board
After a while I bought the Neptune (3.08 oz topweight, 4" Pin to CG) and drilled the Pin 1 1/4" to the PAP and put CG towards the Grip center. Drilled a hole on the PAP to make it legal.
Results:
WOW! I averaged 200+ today. The the ball sure rolls early but with the smooth arcing reaction it found its way to the pocket and STRIKE!!!. This is definitely the ball to be used on short pattern/drier condition. I just love this ball!!!
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Post by: IrishMike837 on September 03, 2008, 10:44:13 PM
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ROTO GRIP - King Of Them All!
Post by: rockerbowler18 on September 18, 2008, 03:13:40 PM
However, that being said, it was not drilled to be a good ball. I drilled it on axis (polished), for when they are fried, so the ball would be a slow, smooth, gradual arc, with enough hit on the backend to carry, and not so much that I'm diving through the nose in the 35th (or more) game on a pair during a tournament.
This ball does what it's supposed to. Slow, gradual arc, decent carry, etc. However, not my favorite, and definitely not the "go to ball" unless I'm interested in experimenting.
I'll update later when I get to throw a few more games on it, and when I actually get to throw it on the lanes for which it was intended: toast.
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Righty
High rev rate (400-450 rpm)
Semi-high speed (16-17 mph)
Book average: 202
For a game based on the principles of science and math, bowling sure does have a bad habit of being illogical.
Post by: lil League Coach on October 03, 2008, 11:41:43 AM
Box: alot of length with a strong backend
2000 abralon: still alot of length with a smooth continuous backend reaction
1000 abralon: *my favorite- good length more midlane reaction and smooth and arcing motion on the back (cuts down on the skid snap)
Drilling: pin is above ring cg kicked out right with axis pitched away from center (3/4") and 1 1/2" past the PAP.
I rolled this ball alot in my 2nd shift leagues it has not seen alot of use in tournaments yet but I see this ball rolling very well on the shorter type patterns like viper, cheetah.
This is yet another great ball made by this great company!!
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PBA EAST REGIONAL MEMBER
Vise Grip Staff "choice of champions"
thomasjtrout@yahoo.com
Post by: brunswick93 on December 23, 2008, 04:30:55 PM
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15lbs 2-3 oz
3-4 in pin
great ball. does just what its suppose to do, hooks in the dry. it just slides through the oil and when hits the dry, watch out. it makes the biggest left turn i have ever seen. i also use it as a spare ball because it doesn't hook in the oil so it won't hook away from the pins. it hits okay for a mid performance ball. if you use it in the medium oil shots, it leaves weak 10 pins but as the lanes break down, this is the ball to use. when it is in its hooking motion, it hits like a mac truck. no pins left up. i would reccommend that you have a ball like this for the drier lanes. awesome ball to own.
Post by: rotogrip_rick on September 08, 2009, 11:24:23 PM
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