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Neptune
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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Through the haze and mist the next planet appears in the distant horizon. The icy blue planet of Neptune is the most distant planet in the Roto Grip® solar system.

The newly designed Orbiter II core with an RG of 2.61 and a differential of .018 was developed to spin smoother and more even along its rotational axis while delivering gravitational shattering pin action.

The Sure Grip IItm pearlized reactive coverstock is the perfect mantle for creating less friction with the atmosphere while traveling along its orbital path.

Once again Roto Grip delivers you the ultimate in price versus performance with its newest planet series ball.



Specifications


Factory Finish  1500- grit polish  
Track Flare Potential  2 Inches  
Lane Condition  Light - Medium Oil  
Cover Stock  Sure Grip IItm Pearl  
Weight Block  Orbiter IItm Core  
Color  Aquamarine / Violet Blue  
D-Scale  75 -78  
Available Weights  10 -16 Pounds




Core Dynamics


WEIGHTS  RG  DIFFERENTIAL  
16 lb.  2.60 (High)  .020 (Low)  
15 lb.  2.61 (High)  .018 (Low)  
14 lb.  2.63 (High)  .017 (Low)  
13 lb.  2.67 (High)  .017 (Low)  
12 lb.  2.67 (High)  .017 (Low)  


 

King Fozy of Billingshire

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2007, 02:12:35 PM »
got this ball last week.. and it rolls real smooth even on the most burnt of heads.... rolls pretty similar to a barbed wire by storm.. if that helps anybody
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Re: Neptune
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2007, 09:52:50 AM »
Drilled w/Pin and CG 4" from PAP.

The ball has more hook than I expected.  It goes very easy down the lane with no early hook, but is reasonably strong at break point.  Has worked better when the heads have dried and there are still some back ends.  Will need a little bit of dry boards to make a sharp break but by no means a straight ball.

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2007, 10:58:17 AM »
I was shocked at this ball. I wasn't expecting as much hook as I got out of the Neptune. I put the pin at 5" under my fingers and kicked the CG a little to the right for a little negative side weight. This ball needs a little dry, but has a good reaction when you get it to the dry. I think this ball is going to keep me out of trouble. I threw it on a shot where the heads were a little drier, and I got a nice even roll. I was very impressed, not a lot of over/under.
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King Fozy of Billingshire

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2007, 12:19:35 PM »
O K I finally threw this ball after a 3 week absence from league bowling.  And it rolls pretty good. im a lefty with med to high rev rade and 17mph ball speed.  i stood about 23 and threw out to about 9 or 10 board at the arrows out to 5 or 6 at break point.   The ball is pretty clean through the heads clearing them just fine,  the only problem i had with this ball is it does get kinda jumpy in the later games.  I primarily bought this ball to replace my storm barbed wire... it rolls pretty close to that ball.  just need a track in the ball and it will be just fine

if you are looking for a second squad ball... this is the ball,  and its pretty affordable  too
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Re: Neptune
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2007, 09:14:07 AM »
GOT MINE LAST MONTH, THE BALLS HIGHLY UNDERATED. RT HANDED PIN UNDER INDEX, ALWAYS GOOD FOR 250 PLUS OUT THE GATE, IT SEEMS TO GET YA MID TO LATE IN THE 2ND GAME WHEN CARRY DOWN SHOWS UP IN MY BREAKPOINT ON BOTH LANES. VERY NICE REACTION OFF END OF PATTERN WHEN TRACK GETS A LITTLE DRIER OR SHORTER OIL PATTERN. THINKING OF GOING WITH A STRONGER LAYOUT FOR HEAVERIER OIL CONDITIONS. ANYBODY DRILLED ONE UP YET?

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2007, 03:31:11 PM »
YES THIS BALL IS GREAT HARDLY ANY TRACK FLARE... I ACTUALLY RETIRED "OLD FAITHFUL"
BARBED WIRE... THIS BALL IS THE REAL DEAL ON HOUSE CONDITIONS
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Re: Neptune
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2007, 09:53:22 PM »
4" - 2 3/4 Top
I drilled this ball 5" x 3 3/4" with pin just above the ring finger.  Weight hole on vertical axis line 1" down.  This ball has all ready proved to be very useful on medium dry to dry for me.  Out of my hand, the roll is smooth arcing and easy thru the front.  This ball does not labor on the backends, especially playing a little straighter.  So far this ball is what I go to when playing straighter on drier conditions.

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2007, 12:21:23 PM »
hello my name is matthew stromberg on the roto grip advisory staff and today i am reviewing the newest addition to the roto grip family, which happens to be a continuation on the MUCH ACCLAIMED "planets" series (saturn, mercury, venus...) earlier, roto grip has released a solid coverstock through the Saturn, then a pearl reactive coverstock with the mercury, next came a pearl particle coverstock with the Venus, and now finally, the neptune has a pearl reactive coverstock with an all new core design and .010 lower on the differential as compared to the venus, mercury, and saturn which is the reason why this ball gets  further down the lane while having more intense hitting power!!! the first neptune, i drilled with pin directly below the fingers and cg bounced out with a 3 inch pin and to get the "best" reaction, i scuffed the ball all the way around lightly with a green pad. this ball is amazing and moves down the lane like no other ball i have had. of all the entry level balls roto grip has come out with, the NEPTUNE is my FAVORITE ball! I recently used this ball on the chameleon pattern in a sweeper last sunday and  in game 6, i switched to the first neptune (scuffing the ball before i took it into the match) and was able to carve my own section on the lane and play straight up 4-5-6 and eventually moving into 12-13-14 with the ball with plenty of backend movement and hitting power NEVER went away for me!! when the backend got a little too much for my likes, i switched to my second neptune which i kept factory finish and drilled this pin out (3 inch) ball with cg in front of thumb and at 1 o'clock and cg below and to the left of the thumb at 10 o'clock. this is a heavier rolling drilling as the pin is below the thumb. now using this ball twice while bowling on the shark and chameleon pattern (on old Hedden synthetic lanes (hardness of surface--- medium as compared to brunswick pro anvilane and guardian lanes )(PSI of 58-62)) and was able to play a much much straighter line and NEVER give away the pocket. both Neptune when thrown act like there basically is NO front part of the lane only the backend cause both neptunes went straight while conserving energy for 39ft. then started making that turn towards the pocket. this coverstock and core combination WILL prove as yet another advantage that you can add to your arsenal. PICK UP A NEPTUNE TODAY AND ORDER YOURS RIGHT NOW THROUGH ROTO GRIP AT 1-888-450-6920 AND ASK FOR KENNA, YOU WON'T BE Disappointed!!


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John Brodersen

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2007, 03:11:24 PM »
Ball specs – 15 lbs 0 oz, 3.34 top weight, 3.25” pin.  

The Neptune was drilled with a 4.75 X 65 degree layout.  This put the pin ¾ of an inch above the ring finger and the non-marked mass bias ½ inch right of the thumb.

The Neptune provided me with the cleanest look through the front ends of any Roto-Grip ball to date.  It also appeared to roll smoother (less early lope) than the other “Planets”.  The backend reaction was a strong arc and for an “entry level” ball” the hit and carry was very good.

While still not an orb for burnt conditions, the Neptune is Roto-Grip’s weakest “Planet” release to date.  On light oil conditions it will provide a very clean front end with a predictable backend move and very good carry.  The Neptune is another great release in the can’t be beat, “Bang for the Buck” Planet line.

 

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2007, 11:46:34 PM »
The Roto Grip Neptune is an awesome ball, plain and simple. This ball being for light to dry conditions hits like a ton of bricks. I got this ball drilled with the pin 5 1/2" from my PAP and Mass Bias at 25 degrees. It rolls pretty straight and still reads the backends great. So when you're pot bowling after league and the lanes are scorching dry, the Neptune will make a big difference. My wallet has felt the difference too, it's fatter!

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2007, 12:47:10 PM »
First of all thanks to Kenny Silmard for talking me into drilling this #15, 2.5
inch pin with pin above bridge and cg under ring (cgnomaddah). And doing a great job. Kenny knocked a little of the shine off do avoid flipping at the backends. While this did give me more arc, it was checking up a tad early the 1st and 2nd games. Went back to oob finish, now I'm a happy camper. Ball carry was great and even carried a couple of off pocket hits. One team member was so impressed that he could not believe it's an entry level ball. Of course this was a newly dressed house shot. Ball clears the heads very well, retaining energy for the backend. Did not seem to over re-act to the dry. Due to my high revs and low ball speed, I think she's a keeper. This is my first review, so please be kind.

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2007, 06:36:18 AM »
I expected this ball to go really long but found it to go just long enough. I could use it on dry house patterns, & some shorter PBA patterns although it could be a little inconsistent there (but what isn't). It moves the pins well and in some cases was more playable than higher priced balls. The bonus to this ball is that I could use it on about anything to shoot spares with some hand adjustments. Very predictable. Absolutely no surprises. It didn't squirt across the middles or duck hook into the gutter on slight pulls going to the 7 pin even on the short patterns which makes this an excellent spare ball that also can be used quite often as a strike ball or vise versa. I used a 4.75 x 4 drill pattern starting with a 4"pin.
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Re: Neptune
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2007, 01:38:36 PM »
I picked up a Neptune to help combat some of the super-dry lane conditions my local house provides for league bowlers.  I drilled my Neptune with a 6" pin to PAP distance, a 3.5" mass bias (spot marked 6 3/4" from the pin on a line drawn through the cg) to PAP distance, and a 5 1/4" pin buffer distance.  This placed the pin just below and outside of my middle finger and the cg in the positive thumb quadrant.  The ball weighed out statically and didn't require a weight hole.  I adjusted the surface by applying a coat of Ebonite Extender Polish overtop of the box finish.  A photo of the ball along with my stats are in my profile.

My first league night after drilling the ball was "supposed" to be the 39' Chameleon pattern.  As typical with this house, the lane machine did not function properly and the lanes were absolutely flying to start the evening (later found out that the oil pump in the machine wasn't producing enough pressure, therefore the pattern had a significantly lower volume of oil than normal).  After a few warm-up shots, I quickly saw that all of my other equipment was out for the night (literally hooked at the arrows), so I decided to give the Neptune a shot.  Lined up with my feet on 21, crossed 12 at the arrows out to around the 5 board.  Once it reached the end of the pattern, the ball had a surprisingly strong "flip" on the backend and missed the head pin left.  The ball pushed through the heads surprisingly easy... much better than anything else I own..so I knew that I had some sort of shot.  I made a few adjustments, both on the lane to get a little deeper and with my hand position to get a little more forward roll and less backend reaction, and ended up standing around 28 on the approach and shooting for the 8-10 board at my breakpoint (usually where the lane number reflect back onto the lane surface.. around 45' down the lane).  Great length and a strong, controlled backend reaction.  I had a little room to miss outside, due to the stronger recovery of the ball, but couldn't pull the ball inside (again, bowling on a very low volume version of the chameleon pattern).  Overall, I had very good control of the breakpoint with this ball (compared to the other bowlers who where trying to throw their more aggressive equipment with tons of speed).  I experience an phenomenal carry percentage...think I left one pocket 10 pin and 1 pocket 7 pin over the course of three games.  Ended up shooting 650 to be high set on the pair.  

Providing there is enough friction, this ball seems to carry well from inside angles.  Easy length with a fairly strong move on the backend.  With my layout and surface prep, the ball definitely needs some friction to work best.  I would think that this ball could tend to be over/under if a decent volume was present on the lane or carry-down existed.  I have tried a number of other "dry-lane" reactives and all of them either hooked too much/too early, were very inconsistent at the breakpoint, or just had no recovery on the backend.  The Neptune seems to have all of these characteristics, making it a great choice for drier lane conditions.

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Re: Neptune
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2007, 05:41:28 PM »
I believe this is a very underrated ball.
Allot of people who have thrown the Neptune say you really need burnt conditions to make the ball hook
I have to disagree

I’m a cranker 400-450 rpm @ 17-18 mph
This is the third ball out of my bag as the lanes transition
this ball has a high rg and low differential is not meant to be a flare monster but still seems to have a decent kick on the backend.

For an entry level ball the Neptune is very good for dealing with drier lanes, especially if you’re a cranker

My drilling
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Ball goes long and arcs into the pocket on dry lanes great go to ball for crankers on ths
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