Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
We have modified the already strong asymmetrical Cyclotrontm core to give you added performance from start to finish. The all new Cyclotron Vtm core gives you a lower RG (radius of gyration) to create a quicker spin rate while keeping the differential high (.050) providing continous hook down the lane.
The crowning touch is the introduction of an all new coverstock. The Ultimate Visiontm pearl particle coverstock delivers the traction of a solid particle coverstock in the front of the lane and the backend motion of a pearlized reactive down the lane.
Specifications
Factory Finish 1000 Matte
Radius Of Gyration 16# - 2.51
15# - 2.52
14# - 2.55
Differential .050 (High)
Lane Condition Medium - Heavy Oil
Flare Potential 7+ Inches
Coverstock Ultimate Visiontm Pearl Particle
Available Weights 14-16 Lbs.
Weight Block Cyclotron Vtm Coretm
Color Light Purple/Dark Purple
D-Scale 73-75
Post by: RotoGripWest on February 01, 2005, 01:59:36 AM
Everything from the color of this bowling ball to the way it reads the lane is absolutely AWESOME!
I drilled my Oracle Vision just like my Apocalypse, I figured this would give me a good idea as to what this ball does since it is a modified version of the Apocalypse core. Pin 5 1/2 above the bridge Mass Bias Strong 1 inch from thumb. The Oracle Vision comes machine sanded out of the box which is a very fine, smooth surface texture.
I left it out of the box and could not move far enough left, it really read the lane early. What I liked though is that it read early and didn't just hook stop, it continued hooking without rolling out and still crushed the pins even if it was brooklyn. I polished the ball with Storm Diamond Gloss and managed to hit the head pin square in the face. I was afraid that if I got too deep the particles wouldn't allow the ball to get around the corner. Boy was I wrong! The deeper I got and the more I sent the ball the more it screamed back and blew the rack.
The Oracle Vision is great on heavy to medium conditions out of the box and can be used on a wide range of medium conditions when polished. This is the ball that stays in your hand all night long because it is actually fun to throw, hits the pins harder than anything you own and reads a wider range of lanes than anything you've ever owned before.
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Bugsy Kelly
Western Region Sales Manager
Post by: vivasrv on February 15, 2005, 01:31:27 PM
Corey Atkinson
Roto-Grip SW Region Staff
Post by: SimonSez on February 17, 2005, 02:48:54 AM
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Post by: Charlie on February 22, 2005, 02:39:05 PM
Post by: Razsa on February 23, 2005, 09:28:16 PM
love this ball! 15 lbs 3.0" pin 3.40 oz top weight, Mass Bias is in the (b) position on reaction drill chart in the box. 5" pin from PAP. It really opens the lane for me. Reads the midlane very good, holding a good line. With a good Snap on the backends. I could play as deep as I wanted too, with no worry of it not coming back hard. On a 5 man house shot 38 feet. My games were 247-226-256 for a 729 series. The best thing of all was, NO 10 PINS!!!!
Well done Roto-Grip!
Post by: STEVEN HAUK on February 26, 2005, 05:09:38 PM
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ROTO GRIP ADVISORY STAFF MEMBER
Post by: RG850SS on March 03, 2005, 09:21:20 PM
Jocko Mangin
Roto Grip Advisory Staff
Post by: John Brodersen on March 03, 2005, 10:42:10 PM
Drilled this very attractive, pearl particle ball 5†X 75 degrees, pin above ring finger and mass bias just below thumbhole. Also added some polish to the factory 1000 matte finish.
This Oracle Vision is very clean through the fronts, has an even mid lane read and a strong, somewhat angular pop with continuation on the back end. This ball is more angular than my other particle experiences probably due to the ball design, stronger cover stock, and the addition of the polish.
Another well thought out addition to the versatile Roto-Grip ball line up
John Brodersen
Post by: rotomike on March 03, 2005, 10:50:33 PM
I drilled the ball 5 1/2" pin x MB strong. A little tamer than my usual test drill. After throwing the ball I am salivating over drilling another one more aggressive (not that I will have a place to use it). This is the first ball I have ever used that could transition from Sport to House shot with no cover adjustment necessary.
Midlane motion is very consistent. Strong and readable...very easy to adjust with.
Very easy to read. Pearl cover is dark enough that it will not confuse those who have trouble reading pearls. The strong core matches very well with the aggressive coverstock. This ball can build confidence.
House Conditions - Strong motion through the midlane. Devastating continuation through the pins. Pin action was outrageous. (Airborne messenger left me breathless) Light hits threw MULTIPLE messengers!!! It did not matter where I was standing. I could get the ball to return for everywhere on the House wall.
Sport Patterns - I used the Vision on a very dense 35ft pattern. My first thought is that the ball would be way way too strong (uncontrollable) for the amount of launch/skid and backend this pattern would offer. I was very wrong. I moved out to 5 and the ball instead of exploding off of the pattern gave me a strong but easy read. A testament to the versatility of this ball.
I saw Dan Smith of Roto Grip throw the ball on a 50ft Sport Pattern. He was the only one who could get the ball to change direction.
This ball is significantly better than any other Particle ball on the market! This ball is significantly better than most strong reactive pieces!
I am very sold on this ball.
I drilled one for a customer whose only complaint was that he no longer had to baby the Vision like he had his previous equipment. he said the pin carry scared him at first. He wasn't used to tossing pins around.
Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Advisory Staff
Post by: Resurrection on March 03, 2005, 11:01:00 PM
Straight out of the box I drilled my ball 4 1/2 by 4 and amazing things started to happen. The waters parted and the earth shook 279-255-279-813.
This ball was great on the house league pattern smooth through the front started to read the middle of the lane for smooth transition and bang backends that were great for carry.
On a sports pattern tournament 40 ft flat little thick. the ball was supper smooth though the fronts and held energy that was pure power to me.
won the tournament avg. 245 and made'em look easy.
This ball is a must have for any arsenal.
Post by: walt8398 on March 03, 2005, 11:45:20 PM
This ball is like a Pure Fuel on steroids.
Very hard to tell this ball is a pearl particle. This layout works great from the deep inside angle. Good on PBA patterns B & C. For Pattern A and D, you would probably need a weaker layout if your a bowler with alot of hand.
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Tony Walton
Roto Grip PBA Regional Staff Member
Post by: Steve Richter on March 04, 2005, 11:59:12 AM
Ball #1 is a 5-1/2†PAP, MB strong box finish that reads and rolls very hard, even with a big puddle in the middle of the lane. Hit the dirt too quick, it does its quick flip, lays down and rolls hard into the hole. Ball #2 is a 5-1/4†PAP “stack†with the MB just to the right of the thumb, no hole (very low top to start). This one has a little Diamond Gloss finish over the box surface that keeps me straighter through the front of the lane. This ball stores plenty of energy and makes a huge flip off the breakpoint – almost automatic recovery from everywhere I’ve tried to throw it.
This new cover stock gives you the best of all worlds. A little scuff and it reads nice and early and continuous. Shine it a little and you get the extra push you’ve come to expect from the “other†covers, but with the continuation you haven’t seen in the past. Nice match-up on the core/cover combo Roto Grip!! I can’t wait to see what else is around the corner with this cover on it.
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Steve Richter
Roto Grip Advisory Staff Member
Post by: ODriscoll on March 04, 2005, 01:44:32 PM
Roto Grip has introduced the next major breakthrough in coverstocks.
As advertised the Oracle Vision does exactly what it was built for. It's strong footprint completely CONTROLS the front part of the lanes. You noticed I emphasized controls. The ball moves easily though the heads without squirting while staying in control. It's at this time when the ball defies logic. Whenever you have this much control over the front part of the lane you could pretty much guarantee either a loss of power or a mellow arcing return. However once this ball reaches the break it's as strong as any pearl reactive on the market!
If your planning on buying a ball prior to ABC Nationals, look no further. This will be your secret weapon. Use it straight out of the box for team, add
a little shine for singles and doubles.
Keep the Vision handy. This will be a mainstay going forward and probably your favorite out of the bag. I would add more but I rather go use it!
Thank you Roto Grip!
Post by: Mr Scary on March 06, 2005, 09:07:48 AM
Incredible ball. It reads the whole lane better than any other ball I have thrown. Roto Grip has definitely gone a step above the rest with this one. I didn't think you could have a ball with a strong midlane, with an even stronger backend reaction. This ball just doesn't quit. It keeps hooking right through the pins, although I have left a few more 9 pins than normal. 10 pins have been almost non existent with this gem.
Another thumbs up for Roto Grip on this one. I can't wait for the next one.
Mr. Scary
Post by: RG808 on March 06, 2005, 10:04:07 PM
I drilled my ORACLE VISION Pin 4 1/2 x C.G.3 3/4 from P.A.P. MB strong. Our house shot is medium oiled, so I polished the cover stock with some moonshine particle polish. WOW did the color of this ball stand out.
The ORACLE VISION is very clean through the fronts,smooth-even mid lane, and PURE POWER at the back end.
The ORACLE VISION is a sure "ALL IN"- A must to have in your arsenal.
THANKS ROTO-GRIP GREAT JOB !
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ROTO-GRIP ADVISORY STAFF
Post by: Mark Curran on March 06, 2005, 11:46:14 PM
Ball is set up with the factory finish, pin at 4 3/4" just above the ring finger, MB an inch or so off the thumb hole in the strong position. The Vision revs fast, reads the midlane, and sets a nice predictable arc to the pocket. Carry was good from different directions to the hole, the ball doesn't push when you don't expect it and it doesn't jump left either. Just a nice predictable reaction.
The hit on this ball is absolutely superb. I broke up all sorts of light hits, had pins flying around the deck and carried more trip 4's on high hits in a morning than I usually carry in a year. Wife was watching and commented that it hit great and a couple folks bowling nearby wanted to know what ball it was. You know when the wife notices good hit and when folks nearby covet your equipment that you have a good one!
Another super pellet from Roto Grip. If you've liked the Cyclotron core balls preceding this one, the Vision is going to be a must have for your collection.
Mark
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Post by: big hank j on March 09, 2005, 12:26:56 AM
3 oz Top and used my favorite drill -
5"x4" with the pin under the fingers-no weight hole. I left the surface - out of the box. I used the ball the first time on flat, medium plus oil. I was able to pick up smooth roll with hard arcing back end. As I moved left, I was able to clear heads and keep the hard arcing back ends. I shot 237,247,257 - 741 Series in a 5 man league right off the press!!!!!!
Thanks everyone at Roto Grip-This ball is a good one.
Hank Jordan, Roto Grip Advisory Staff
Post by: flashy1 on March 10, 2005, 04:14:06 PM
I drilled my ball 4 1/2 by 3 1/2, mass to pap is 4", the pin is just below the ring finger.
The ball has a 3 inch Pin, top weight was 2.24 in a 16.0 pound ball.
My ball speed is 16.59 and a rev rate of 238.
I used this ball on a sport shot, league play and several other conditions. by changing hand positions I was able to keep this ball in play on all but the dry lane conditions. The ball is easy through the front of the lane, does not over react, has control strong turn to the pins and hits very hard.
The only problem I faced was that the ball would just not quit and would take out the 8 pin leaving the 9 pin on occasion.
This is the first ball I have pushed since the X * 3 was introduced.
IT IS GREAT!
Post by: RoToE_SLICK on March 11, 2005, 11:29:21 PM
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Post by: MapleMoxie on March 14, 2005, 09:26:07 AM
On the house pattern, the Vision allowed me to open the lane up even more than the Apocolypse about 4 and 2 deeper. I felt that the Vision rolled through the oil, read the midlane not overracting to the dry, and produced powerful recovery while keeping the pins nice and low for optimum pin carry. Tested for 10 games on that pattern, while the heads started to get chopped up, the Vision still cleared the heads clean (with the proper adjustments) and kept on hitting.
I have used the ball twice so far in the tough condition league (league only has three 200 averages in a 22 4-person team league). The Vision has given me the most hook/finish reaction that I have had all year in that league. Rolled through and read the oil like the Fear Factor and Ultimate Inferno, but still had enough left to react strong and hit on the backend, where the other two quit on the end. First two nights produced 688, 697; high set in the league both nights, high game of the night both times which overall produced two very, very profitable nights.
If you haven't gotten your Vision, stop by your local pro-shop and inquire about the ball because it should be a benchmark ball for alot of bowlers.
Charlie Standish
Roto-Grip Advisory Member, PBA Record Holder
Post by: Aubert on March 15, 2005, 01:07:43 PM
I mapped mine with pin appx. 11/2" left of grip line placing the mass appx. 2"fro thumb. I did need to polish mine to mid hi luster, though a higher speed and rev player did not.
For league and local tourn. conditions this particle ball is very playable and one of the few particles that a slower speed player can use.
This ball is a great fit between my all time favorite Silver Streak Pearl and the strong mid-lane RS-1
Randy Aubert= Bowlers Depot
Rotogrip Advisory Staff
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Post by: tloy on March 24, 2005, 08:28:34 AM
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Post by: Strokewiththelefthand on March 30, 2005, 01:37:54 PM
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Post by: chris88 on April 08, 2005, 01:30:00 PM
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Post by: mab on March 22, 2006, 05:59:39 PM
14lb3oz
4" pin, 3.22 oz top wght.
drilled; 3.5x4 mb below thumb
pin below and right of ring
small weight hole just below mid line on pap
light coat extra shine
This ball clears the heads clean has a nice mid lane move that revs up for a strong arcing back end. have mostly used on THS shots with varying length and volume the ball has slightly more snap on stripped backends. It has displayed great hitting power keeping the pins low and leaving few corner pins. would recomend this ball to anyone looking for a consistant but strong particle pearl. Definatly the best I've thrown in this catagory, a welcome addition to my all Roto Grip arsenal.
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Post by: BrandonR on May 10, 2006, 12:12:36 AM
Layout is a 4 3/4 by 4 3/4. Putting pin and cg stacked under ring. w/ x-hole 4in in.
This ball moves through most med conditions with a very strong and visible move off the spot. This ball also keeps pins suprisingly low.
The Vision is the way to go.
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All day everyday- Roto Grip King of them All
Post by: CHawk15 on August 20, 2006, 09:22:23 PM
Drill - Pin 4.25" from PAP with MB just under and to the right of the thumb.
Initially, I had mixed feelings about this ball because I couldn't get it to move as much as I thought it should. At first, I thought it was burning up too fast so I polished it, which made it skid too far down the lane before trying to turn up. Turns out it was the bowler and method of ball care that was the problem. For me, this is a ball that absorbs oil very quickly and is a little more receptive to a slower ball speed, a feature that most my other equipment I've used doesn't have. I took it back down to 800-1000 and keep it clean using Clean N Dull after every session. This made all the difference in the world, this thing is now a monster and requires deeper angles and more side roll to keep it right in most houses I bowl in. In practice earlier today, I was standing around 28 and targeting between the second and third arrow out to the 5 board and back, which for me (see profile), is way inside. This ball has a very strong midlane and hard arcing backend, which I was surprised by considering the surface and coverstock. This ball is strong and needs a fair amount oil up front in order to get it down the lane.
This ball is great for heavy oil or slick lane surfaces. Not good for lighter/shorter patterns and broken down lanes or higher friction lane surfaces (unless there's a ton of oil), but on the right condition this ball is a winner. I took it to the State Tournament on the older synthetic lane surfaces used in the early 90s which were a little slicker and rolled a 677, which was high on my team and near the top series from anyone during the squad that day. It took some hard work to figure this ball out, but it was worth it.
Post by: Bowler19 on February 20, 2007, 07:46:16 PM
Revs: 350+
Axis tilt: 20-25 Deg
Axis rotation: Approx. 30 deg
Desription:
Weight (Pre-drill) 15 and change
Top weight (Pre-drill)
Pin to CG distance 3â€
Surface prep 1500 Grit Polished
Drilling
Pin to PAP distance 4†Pin to grip center distance 3.5†Pin in middle finger.
Balance hole location, size, and depth. No Balance Hole
Condition used was PBA Regional Pattern 4(42Ft) and THS(38Ft)
Pattern #1 Lane condition was synthetics(Brunswick).
I used a dull surface at about 800 grit on this pattern and the ball was too aggressive but it had a smooth reaction and was predictable at the break point but forced me to go to deep for that pattern
THS is AMF synthetic conditions are med oil for our areas THS
This ball gives a strong smooth read. The vision was a very smooth ball and was very control when my Flippy stuff was too Over/Under and the battle was too strong.
Line being played
Pattern #4 20/ 7 @ 38-40ft on fresh Any deeper and ball wouldn’t recover in time THS 20/10 @ 36 ft on fresh
Overall Thoughts
This ball is great for use on med to heavy oil pattern with moderate length as long as the surface is right. It has the ability to give a great read if matched properly with the condition. Ball has great traction and carry. The balls reaction didn’t change much from 600-800 grit and from 1000-2000 grit.
Compared to the Violet gargoyle with the same drilling This ball is stronger and more aggressive throughout the entire lane. For me it is about 10 boards stronger then the Violet with a better and more consistent read through the oil.
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Post by: agroves on March 11, 2007, 12:09:22 AM
Pin Length - 1"
Starting Top Weight - n/a
Ball Weight - 15
DRILL PATTERN
Pin to PAP - 5" below the bridge
CG to PAP - n/a
MB Location - 3" from pap
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate - 325ish
Ball Speed - 17
PAP/Track - 5 1/2 right, 1/2 up
PICTURE AND VIDEO LINKS
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/fufunbea...804200149704/5
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lG9tk2SyQXs
SURFACE PREPARATION
Grit - 1500 sanded
LANE CONDITION
Length - 41 ft
Volume - med to heavy
Type (Wall, Xmas Tree, Sport) - wall
BALL REACTION
Overall Hook - middle of the road
Midlane Read - early
Breakpoint Shape - controlled early arc
COMMENTS
I wanted to drill a particle pearl. My proshop had this one used, so I picked it up. I wanted something to stand up but not jump and still have some hitting power at the pin decks.
On the house shot, I can pipe it up the dry when the pattern starts to breakdown. Or, I can circle the pattern if needed, but I think it is much better straighter, based on the surface and layout.
I have used it on the shark pattern and was not that great. It was too strong to play direct and not strong enough to go away with it.
Overall, I think the ball can be used on a wide variety of med conditions. It is still a particle pearl, so dry is out and real oily is out. Anything in between it is pretty good and somewhat versatile with that layout. I like the fact it doesn't jump when it sniffs the dry. It just lazily rolls thru the pins and carry with it is better than I expected.
Andrew
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