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Outcry
« on: July 03, 2014, 08:46:46 AM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
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Roto Grip Outcry Ball Specs:

- Color: Silver Pearl / Teal All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Reaction: Good Length and Strong Down-Lane Recovery
- Coverstock: 53M Hybrid Reactive
- Core Type: Late Roll 51
- Factory Finish: 4000-grit pad
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.55**
- Differential (Diff): 0.030**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Hook Potential: Medium-Low
- Length: Long
- Recommended Lane Condition: Medium Oil

 

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Re: Outcry
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2014, 08:01:42 AM »
Outcry - 50 x 4 1/2 x 50 pin up - out of box surface
Oil patterns: 42ft Kegel Flex with Fire and Ice oil and 43ft PBA regional pattern
Lane surface: HPL installed 10 years ago and rescreened in 2014
On the house pattern, the ball gave up a little when playing inside of the track area, but once I started playing the track area or just left of it, the ball was MONEY. I actually like this ball better then the Uproar and that is really hard for me to believe. Once the pattern broke down, I could move left and left and look further down lane, and I could repeat that shot on a consistent basis. It actually roll better on the 43ft PBA regional pattern, I could play left of the track area or play closer to the gutter and use a little more end over end release and the OutCry was making the pins scream and "cry out" in pain. The ball worked well even as the pattern broke down by me moving my eyes right a little and squaring up. The OutCry will be a great bench mark ball for your fall arsenal.

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RotoGrip OutCry Review by Staffer Casey Murphy
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2014, 03:23:12 PM »
Orientation:  Right Handed
Rev Rate:  375 RPM
Speed:  16-17 MPH
PAP:  5 across ĺ up

Location:  Enterprise Park Lanes, Springfield MO
Pattern:  High Volume THS
Layout:  55, 5 Ĺ, 40

The Outcry is the perfect hybrid cover complement to the solid Rumble and pearl UpRoar.  Actually, itís probably more of a perfect blend of the two.  If the Rumble doesnít create enough backend, or the Uproar is a little too long, the Outcry will take care of both of those issues! 

The sanded cover picks up very quickly, but donít think it loses energy at that point.  The Outcry picks up very sharply off the breakpoint and creates a very angular backend.  Overall itís much stronger than the Rumble and Uproar.   I struggled to use both of those balls on fresh lane conditions, but the Outcry is ready to go for the first game!

The Outcry is a versatile ball at a great price point and a must have for the serious tournament bowler!

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Re: Outcry
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 04:13:51 PM »
41 ft THS

OOB finish

Layout: pin under bridge with cg kicked out to the right 2.5 inches

This ball is the perfect compliment to my Hysteria. It is very controlled with a strong move to the pocket.  It allowed me to slow down and not have to play the whole lane.  My first set with was 266-279-219(prebowled last game, had to go work), i couldnt have been more please with how the ball reacted and went through the pins, its was a total destruction of the pins when it the pocket.  Go see your local pro shop today, this is a must have for your bag. 
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Re: Outcry
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2014, 07:17:41 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: Various

Volume: Various

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): All of the above


The newest addition to RotoGrip HP2 line is the Outcry.  The Outcry has a hybrid cover stock that surrounds the Late Roll 51 core that is in the Rumble and the Uproar.  The Outcry along with the Wrecker will give the bowler two hybrid cover stocks with two totally different rolls.  The Outcry is a strong arcing beast while the Wrecker is totally a skid flip monster.  I went really simple on the layout with pin right above the fingers with cg slightly kicked out with no hole.  The coordinates are 80 X 5 Ĺ X 45.  My coordinates are 5 5/8 over and ĺ up, rev rate around 300, ball speed around 15mph, more up the back release and I am right handed.

I threw the Outcry on numerous patterns and what I gathered from this experience is that the Outcry is in play on the shorter to medium patterns with low to medium volumes.  The Outcry on a house pattern is fantastic because it blends the wet/dry out compared to the Wrecker.  The Wrecker over emphasized both the wet and dry until carry down happened.  The Outcry was in play from the first ball to the last ball of the session moving left and following the oil line as it moved left.  I did NOT change the cover stock at all, right out of the box!  I also threw both balls on Cheetah and the Viper and the Outcry was fantastic early on in the session but as the patterns broke down it forced me too far left.  So I moved to the right a couple boards and threw the Wrecker and was right back into the pocket.   As I said before I did not change the cover stock of the Outcry, I believe if I polished the Outcry I would have had a better ball reaction for the entire session not just the first couple of games.  The next pattern was a 4o foot flat pattern and the Outcry outperformed the Wrecker from the first ball to the last ball.  The Flatter pattern needed a strong but consistent ball reaction and the Outcry was all of that and a Bag of Chips!

If you are looking for a versatile bowling ball that will not bust your walletÖ. The Outcry is your ticket to success!


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Re: Outcry
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2014, 04:20:37 PM »
Roto Grip Outcry Ball Review by PJ Haggerty

Is this another ball Belmo is going to do laps around us with? Possibly.  Actually, probably.  This is hands down, the best bang for your buck on the market.  The league players will love it because it doesnít over hook like some high performance balls, and it is such a controllable motion with plenty of pop down lane.  I loved the Uproar but thought it rolled best when I took the shine off.  The Outcry provides that out of the box.  That way, you can leave the Uproar shiny for when the lanes are burnt and you have to move farther and farther left.

I think the Outcry pairs well with a Sinister, Disturbed, Hysteria, and Uproar.  It provides a cleaner, smoother shape that you will absolutely need in most tournament conditions.  I used the Rico layout on the Outcry simply to maintain a smooth shape.  With the pin in my palm, a big shift with the cg a couple inches to the right of my thumb, and a hole under my axis, this is a ball I can, at times, use on a fresh sport pattern.  Sometimes our HP-4 line balls are so strong, we can only use them for a couple games at a time.  The Outcry creates a shape that will smooth out the transition and you can get multiple games out of. 

If you are missing that smoother, cleaner shape in your bag, drill an Outcry.  Like I said before, itís the best bang for your buck on the market.  Go #OwnIt!

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Re: Outcry
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2014, 01:43:39 PM »
Roto Grip Outcry
Right Handed
Experience   Advanced (I have bowled in a league and hold a PBA Card)
League Average   220
Ball Speed   Medium 15-16mph
Style          Cranker
PAP          5 over 1/4" up
 
 


PSA Layout - 4" x 4" x 2"
Balance Hole - yes

Surface Preparation - Out of Box (4000 Grit Abralon pad)

What I Was Looking For from this ball:  Something a bit more aggressive on the backend than my Rumble but much more than my Uproar that I could depend on throwing when I wanted to play around the track area and not get too crazy with the shot.
 
What I Ended Up With in the Ball and Layout:   One heck of a great ball!  I was able to play left of where I play with my Rumble with a more dependable hard backend reaction.       

I tested this ball on a fresh pattern at my local center where I am the manager and own my pro shop as well.  I run a heavy oil pattern 40 ft with several units in the center and a gradual taper downward towards the outsides.  At first I tried standing pretty far left and banking the ball off of the dry area on the outsides.  I didnt like the reaction at all.  Then I decided that I should not try and get more out of this ball than I expected and simply moved right and play around the track area.  With confidence the Outcry came back with authority and hit amazing.  Over the next several games I managed to stay right around the track area and make slight left hand moves and continued to have success.  I did notice that when I stayed up the back of this ball rolled it more that the ball seemed to really make the pins fly. 

Overall:    What a great Ball!  First night of league play I shot 300 with the Outcry.  This ball has become the ball I go to when I want to stay around the track but want a little more reaction than average to increase my carry.  The ball looks great and hits great!  Highly recomend this ball for anyone from advanced to beginner.  A great ball to start out with and go from there.     

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Outcry review by Mark Tarkington
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2014, 01:01:41 PM »
Right Handed
Ball weight:  15
Rev Rate:  378
Ball Speed:  18.2
Axis Tilt:  6.67
Axis Rotation:  45*
PAP:  4 1/8 horizontal, 11/16 up
Layout:  Pin under ring, cg kicked 1Ē right, hole beside thumb

I wanted to try something different with the Outcry.  Iíve been liking pin down symmetrics, so I thought Iíd try to change the motion with the hole beside the thumb.  Iíve seen a few guys in regionals have quite a bit of success with this kind of layout, so why not?

I have not altered the surface yet, so everything has been oob.  Using it on the local house shot, I had a great look, just throwing it right and watching it peel back to the hole.  For the amount of surface it has, it still gets exceptional length while the lanes are fairly fresh.  The motion is fairly sharp, and it hits really well.  Iím able to migrate left as needed, but did find that I could move too far left.  At that point it was time to ball down.

Using this one a variety of times, itís a lot of fun to throw and wants to hook.  Iím not sure if itís my layout or just another version of that core that everyone seems to love.  I really like it and need to try it on some sport patterns.  Once I get some games on sport ratios, Iíll know more about what this one can really do.

Anyone looking for a strong symmetric, this is it.  It has plenty of hook and roll.

You wonít be disappointed with the Outcry.
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Roto Grip Outcry review by Staffer Garrett Richardson
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2014, 06:03:13 PM »
Hand: Left
Ball Speed: 16-17mph
Ball Weight: 15lbs
PAP: 5 left 7/16 up
Degrees of Tilt: 17
Layout: 3 1/8 x 4 7/8 x 1 Ĺ 

The Outcry is a hybrid of the underrated rumble and uproar that has got its popularity from Jason Belmonte using it in the PBA World Series. The pin is up and to the left of ring finger with the cg directly under the pin with a hole. The Outcry gives me a smooth overall reaction on medium oil. When the back ends start to get dry I get a stronger almost angular motion but with a little move to the right I can keep the back end smooth and still get to the pocket with the surface being sanding at 3000. The Outcry is a great ball for when your asylum or hysteria starts to hook too much and the outcry you can stand in the same spot and have smooth back end without it jumping off the spot.

I drilled an Outcry for a customer and polished the cover and still keeps the same shape as if it was dulled but with a little more length for the slower speed bowlers which this customer was or even high rev rate bowlers. The best condition I have used it on is only on a house shot at this point and can use it all 3 games if needed by playing up the boards around the 8 board and once that shot goes away I can move about 5 or so boards and bounce off the dry with a control back end motion. For the HP 2 line fans that have the uproar and rumble you can now have the hybrid you have been waiting for.

If you have any questions about the Outcry email me at garrett.richardson@pinolebowlerssupply.com. I have a video of the Outcry on youtube!

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Re: Outcry
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 11:26:08 AM »
The Outcry from Roto Grip is another great addition to the HP2 line. Adding onto the already great Uproar and Rumble pieces, the Outcry adds an in between for when the Uproar is too sharp off the break point or the Rumble is checking up too early. I drill my outcry up at 135 x 3 x 55. By giving it this much rollier layout I'm able to control both the mid-lane and the back end of the reaction. This layout for me with a higher rev rate really gives me some option when the back ends dry up and things start moving off the breakpoint much harder, but also lets me get past the midland without rolling too early. This is a great piece to ball down too after my Hysteria or IQ Tour Fusion just start to be a bit too much.

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Re: Outcry
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2014, 09:27:33 AM »
The Roto Grip Outcry is the hybrid version of the Rumble and Up Roar. The Outcry is silver pearl and teal, and has great shelf appeal. The numbers come down to 2.55 Rg and 0.030 diff in 15lb balls. Using the Roto Grip guts grit and grime scale, the Outcry is 51/53/M, and is in the HP2 line of balls.
I drilled my Outcry with a 4 Ĺ x 5 x 2 ĺ which puts the pin above and slightly to the left of my ring finger. This compliments my 4 ľ x 5 x 3 Rumble, and 4 ĺ x 5 x 2 Ĺ Up Roar perfectly. The Outcry is cleaner and has more move in the backend of the lane than what the Rumble has, and is more ball overall than the Up Roar. Out of the three, the Outcry covers the most boards for me.
I have been using the Outcry for some time now. I ended up smoothing the cover out with Storm step #1. I like to use the Outcry on medium conditions and go a little straighter down the lane with it by taking my hand out of it, but yet still chase hooking conditions deeper on the lane, and be confident that it will corner enough to carry when I hit the ball. I have used the Outcry on PBA Viper, Kegel Athens, house conditions, and some medium length USBC white patterns, all with good success. This is a ball that I almost always will have in the bag.
The Outcry will be a good ball for about any style of play, as long as you are using it on the proper conditions. High rev rate bowlers and very slow speed players will like the Outcry for medium to medium heavy conditions. Medium rev bowlers will see the best success with medium conditions, and possibly some medium heavy conditions with some extra surface added to the ball. Lower rev rates will like the Outcry on medium to medium dry conditions. If you need a heavy oil ball, or dry lane ball, there are better options or you, in my opinion; but for covering the middle of the road patterns, which seems to be the most popular, the Outcry is a great option to have.
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Roto Grip Outcry Ball Review by Josh Conner
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2014, 12:55:49 PM »
Lane Surface: Synthetic

Lane Pattern: Typical House Shot

Ball Surface: Box

Ball Weight:15lbs

Likes: I like how sneaky strong this ball can be!

The Outcry!! Extending from the HP2 line from Roto Grip, the Outcry really packs a punch. The Outcry features a Hybrid coverstock, wrapped around the Late Roll 51 core. What Iíve been able to diagnose, is that the Outcry is sneaky strong down lane. You may not expect it coming from a ball in the HP2 line, other than say, the Uproar, but the Outcry really is a sneaky strong ball down lane. I was very surprised at how well that Hybrid 4000 grit cover picked up down lane and never seemed to want to push thru the breakpoint. I felt like I could boom this ball to the friction and have no fear of it not recovering. Normally, I close down my angles and keep my lines smaller. With the Outcry in hand, I really feel like when the lanes transition and you have to start chasing the pattern left, the Outcry truly gives you enough push, but at the same time, enough down lane motion to feel confident in your adjustments.
I drilled my Outcry, 4 ĺĒ Pin to PAP and 3 ľĒ Cg to PAP with a hole in the P2 location. I wanted to drill the ball to give me something for later in the block where I get caught in between moves and ball changes. I wanted to be able to ball down to the Outcry, and pick up where I left off. Surprisingly, the drilling matched up with the 4000 grit surface and gave me more motion then what I was expecting. I can actually use this ball in the earlier part of the block and really take advantage of the clean backends. Itís just an amazing ball at the price point and I feel confident in saying that my Outcry, rolls stronger then my Uproar I drilled and I think that comes from the 4000 Hybrid cover. If youíre in the market for a great ball at a great price point, I think the Outcry is the ball for you!

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Re: Outcry
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2014, 03:19:19 PM »
I tested my Outcry on my 39-foot house shot. The 4000 Pad finish on the -53M Hybrid finish worked well for this condition. I pushed the ball to the dry area to gain some friction.

My Outcry is drilled with the pin up below the fingers  I wanted to have a ball that would compliment my Uproar and would produce a nice controlled reaction to the pocket. This ball produced about 3-5 inches of flare. The ball skidded nicely through the heads as I played just inside the oil line skidding out to the dryer boards. Once the ball encountered some friction, it revved up nicely and made a nice controlled move to the pocket. As with all Roto Grip balls, it drove through the pin deck.

The Outcry has a very predictable reaction, and with the 2.55 RG and .030differential makes it a great addition for the lower rev medium speed league player who needs a ball to go to when cover when the lanes begin to breakdown.

What I enjoyed the most about this ball is the controlled reaction. It produced a nice move to the pocket and devastated the pins. What a fun ball to throw.

The Outcry is a nice go to ball for the league bowler and is good compliment to the Sinister. This ball will make a nice addition to anyoneís arsenal.

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Re: Outcry
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2014, 07:56:46 PM »
Roto Grip Outcry

Layout: 55 x 4 5/8 x 40

Box Finish

Bowler Info:
325 Rev Rate
Speed: 16 - 17 MPH
Pap - 4 7/16 over, 3/8 up

The Outcry is a smoother version of the Uproar that excels on all medium oil condtions, from medium-oily to medium-dry. The roll could be considered to be a benchmark type reaction, because it has a strong midlane dig but still has backend, as well. It is strong enough to handle a fresh medium sport pattern or fresh house shot, but can still be used as the lanes dry out.

Compared to a Hysteria, the Outcry is 3-4 boards weaker overall, and has less of a dynamic downlane motion. The Hysteria can be used over the Outcry when a more defined backend reaction is desired, and the Outcry would be used when a smoother roll is more beneficial.

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Re: Outcry
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2014, 12:43:06 AM »
COVERSTOCK NAME: 53Mô
COVERSTOCK STYLE: HYBRID
COVERSTOCK TYPE: REACTIVE
WEIGHT BLOCK: LATE ROLL 51ô
COLOR: SILVER PEARL / TEAL
FINISH: 4000-GRIT PAD
FINISH METHOD   : CAN BE POLISHED
DUROMETER: 73-75 ON D-SCALE
FLARE POTENTIAL: 4" - 5"/MEDIUM-HIGH
WEIGHTS: 10LBS - 16LBS
SKU: ROU
My layout: 4 x 5 "x 2
My PAP: 4 1/2" over 1 1/4 up

The Outcry from Roto Grip should fit nicely into many bowling bags without breaking the bank.  I use the ball when the heads start to break down, and I need a ball that will get through the fronts and store energy. What is nice about the outcry is I donít get that skip flip reaction, even though the ball is storing energy. This is not a ball I can use on a fresh heavy oil shot. I can use it on a fresh house shot if it is shorter than 40 feet. Guys that hook it a lot can probably use it anytime.  I feel this ball is for the avid bowler looking to fill holes in the bag. If you are a person who buys one to two balls a year I rather see you look for a ball in the HP4 or HP3 line. Please keep in mind for the price of the Outcry you get a pretty darn good bowling ball. My rating would be 3 out of 5 for the average bowler, and 4 out of 5 for the avid bowler that needs to fill a hole in his bowling bag.
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