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Outlaw
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Coverstock: Inception Solid Reactive 
Weight Block: Caliber Core (14-16 lbs), Modified Caliber Core (12-13 lbs) 
Ball Color: Black/Mahogany All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown. 
Lane Condition: Medium Oil 
Ball Finish: 2000-grit Abralon 
Flare Potential: 4-5 inches 
RG: 16#-2.54, 15#-2.57, 14#-2.60, 13#-2.60, 12#-2.66 
- RG Differential:
 16#-0.051, 15#-0.048, 14#-0.044, 13#-0.040, 12#-0.032 
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal 
Description: The Roto Grip Outlaw showcases a dependable weight block shape and powerful coverstock. The Caliber weight block shape of the Outlaw maximizes pin action, accomplished through increased energy transfer of about 12% when compared to traditional cores, and works for both rev dominant and speed dominant players. The Inception coverstock has a surface topography that showed Ra values up nearly 10% from previous blends. The Outlaw handles a variety of conditions ranging from a typical house shot to tough tournament action. the Outlaw provides an earlier, more predictable reaction.

 

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Re: Outlaw
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2011, 07:30:26 PM »
I took this ball and a Nomad solid to try out. On the fresh house shot the Outlaw was smoother with more overall hook than the Nomad. I used both the Nomad and the Outlaw at 2000 abralon finish. The Outlaw read the mid lane better and cleaner with a stronger, more continuous backend movement. For me, this ball never lost much, if any, energy down lane until they got really burned up. I then took the Outlaw and applied Storm Reacta Clean and Reacta Shine and moved back right and played up the drier part of the lane. The more I bowled with the Outlaw the more impressed I was. This ball really responds to cover stock changes really well. This ball is a must for anyone on anything!! Great job, Roto Grip, on the core and cover combination.


 


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Re: Outlaw
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2011, 10:58:36 AM »
LANE CONDITION




Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS 



COMMENTS





Drill Pattern: 55 X  5 X 40 Box finish
 

Great layout.  I was a little sceptical to beging with, but I learned to love it once I was able to throw it.  It had a lower track flare and is very predictable.  Works great on house patterns as well as wet/dry conditions.  I thought carry might be an issue also, but not the case.  I shot 289, 262 the first night of league, where most others were struggling. 


 

 


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Re: Outlaw
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2011, 07:44:34 PM »
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LANE CONDITION






Length: 39 feet   

 


Volume:



Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): House shot



 



COMMENTS







Likes:I tested the Outlaw on a typical house shot.  This ball will be ideal in a typical league
condition.





 


My Outlaw is drilled with the pin above the fingers keeping the
box finish.  This ball was clean through
the front end and produced about 4 inches of flare.  The ball rolled strong off my hand and in the
mid-lane the ball revved up nicely and made a solid, smooth move to the pocket.


 


The Outlaw has a very predictable reaction, which is ideal for
the league player. As the lanes transition, I could simply move left, play a
little deeper and continue to use this ball. 
I found this ball to be a bit stronger than the Riot. 
The duller cover of the Outlaw makes
it start to roll sooner than the Bandit.


 


What I enjoyed the most about this ball is the predictability of
the cover. It produced a nice steady hook to the pocket.  I was getting 4-5 inches of flair and bouncing
the ball off the dry all night.


 


The
Outlaw will make a nice addition to anyone’s arsenal.




Dislikes: none



 


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Re: Outlaw
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2011, 12:16:32 PM »
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Lay Out: 4 3/4" from PAP at 45*   PAP  angle and 65*   VAL   angle. Dual angle measurement would be   45/4.75/65. The  pin   ended  up  under my ring finger with the CG just right of online with my horizontal axis line. I am debating on where to put a weight hole in it as it rolls very well without one.

Surface: I am box  finish which is 2000 abralon.

Purpose: I wanted to drill up  something to put in the benchmark slot in my bag. The numbers on this are very similar to a solid nomad I had in that slot late in the year.

Lane Condition   Observations: I have thrown this on our  house pattern so far. I love the reaction of this ball. Strong but predictable. Our house condition is 38 feet and they run two patterns of it with one being slightly less volume. Our center is a huge open play center so they run the lower volume shot on weekends for the open play lanes. I noticed good pick up with this ball and very strong controlled move off the spot. I would rate this a medium response in box condition. The response might go up with a smooth or shined surface.

Other Ball   Comparisions: I did get to throw it some side by side with my VG Nano and Marvel. The Nano is stronger off the spot compared to the Outlaw and the Marvel is slower off the spot. I keep my Marvel at 1000 so it was picking up earlier and forced me 4 and 2 left compared to the Outlaw. The Nano was about a 6 and 3 move compared and even then was very close to leaving late 9's and 4-9's. I could have safely went 8 and 4 with the Nano.
 
 
Final      Thoughts: The Outlaw is exactly what I was looking for as it fits right in the middle of my arsenal. I also get the impression by the early reaction that a shined one would make a great one-two punch on league conditions. I did notice that the minute I would start to flat ten, if I moved 2 and 1 immediately, the carry came back. With this layout eventually I ran out of angle and the Outlaw started to puck 10's again. This is a weakness of my natural game and not the ball. This would be the time to pull out a strong pearl or hybrid to get some push thru the front and then the same move in the back.
 

 


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Re: Outlaw
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2011, 06:11:35 PM »
LANE CONDITION






Length:works well on all patterns from 36 to 40 feet

 

Volume:mid volume


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): works on sport and house


 



COMMENTS





Likes:this is a great ball to have in the bag


Dislikes: na


 


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Re: Outlaw
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2011, 04:11:54 PM »
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Accomplishment: My Outlaw has about the same layout as my Bandit, 3 inch pin left & below ring finger.Since the Solid Reactive surface is more aggressive then the Bandit and as a LH Senior stroker and Avg. speed of 14-15mp, I have to move in a little deeper on house league conditions between 8-15 which helps me get down the lane in the oil for a strong smooth roll to the pocket & super hit & carry. With the new weight block & surface I can see why the Pro's like this ball & some had good results in Vegas the week of Nov. 3rd..Another great mid-priced ball from RG.....Larry Hoffman, RG Advisory Staff






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Re: Outlaw
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2012, 04:48:25 PM »
BALL SPECS

Pin Length: 3 inches


Ball Weight: 15

 
DRILL PATTERN

Pin to PAP:  4 inch

CG to PAP:   4 inch 

X Hole (if there is one): no hole
 

BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate: 375

Ball Speed: 16 Qubica tracks speed at the backend
 
PAP/Track:  4  up 1 1/4

 
SURFACE PREP

Grit: 2000

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): 2000 Factory
 

LANE CONDITION

Length: 42
 
Volume:  36 ml

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

 
BALL REACTION

Length:7

Back End:7
 
Overall Hook:7

Midlane Read:7

Breakpoint Shape:7

 
COMMENTS

Likes: The outlaw is very smooth rolling bowling ball.  It reads the midlane real well and is very hard rolling off the spot.  I really like how this ball handles the puddle but does not jerk when it hits friction.
I have kept it 2000 abralon on the ball, and in league when the backs are not real clean, the Outlaw opens up the 
lane for me.  If your looking for a controllable solid symmetrical , the Outlaw is the choice.
 The Outlaw has a very predictable roll to it, thus is very good choice for PBA and sport patterns.  As it will keep you in play a lot more than other balls.
 
Another great ball from Roto Grip....

Dislikes: It tends to roll a little early on the medium to dry lane conditions..  But a little Storm Step 2
compound or light polish will help create the needed length.

 
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Re: Outlaw
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2012, 09:12:59 PM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 43 ft Brunswick Anvilane

Volume: Medium-Heavy

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

Likes:  Great carry power, predictability,

Dislikes:  None

This is another great ball from the guys in Utah, and I purchased this as part of a 4-ball deal from sps300.  Knowing the 43 ft pattern we have as our house shot, having a ball with a good, controlled reaction is a must.  This is because the backends fly most nights.  When I sub at another house, I have been running into wet/dry situations.  My Outlaw was drilled based off a 5x3x4 layout and punched an x-hole at P3.  I also kept the surface OOB.

The layout and x-hole combine to make the ball clean through the front, have a controlled read in the midlane, and then go into a heavy roll in the back.

All I can say is the Outlaw has flat out performed great with this layout/core/cover combo.  I thought the Rotary Core was the best symmetrical core that I have used and it is definitely one of the best.  My game matches up extremely well with that.  The Caliber Core is the Rotary on steroids.  It carries even better, and that is really impressive.

In the couple weeks I have used it in my league, it has been everything I wanted and then some.  Playing outside is my A-game but the Outlaw has allowed me to move in, play with some angle and control the back better than most.    This ball has no quit in it whatsoever and it hits the pins really hard, keeps pins low, and has great carry. 

Compared to my Rogue Cell, the Outlaw allows me to play with similar angles yet control the back much more.  Comparing to my Hy-Road, both are smooth but the Outlaw will read a bit earlier and not be as sharp on the back.  It's an excellent fit with both in the arsenal and provides a very easy step down when needed.

The other thing I really like about the Outlaw is the predictability.  It's very easy to tell with this drilling when the Outlaw is not enough ball, too much ball, or just right.  On our league shot, the Outlaw just annihilates racks and has provided me with a lot of X's on the board so far.

I could go on and on about the great things with this ball.  Roto Grip has a lot of really great balls out there.  They've been one of the fastest growing companies for a reason.  Great products that give a good range of reactions and versatility for bowlers of all styles.  If you want predictability combined with tons of carry power, look at the Outlaw.  You can still find it in several places, and it is absolutely worth the price you'll pay for it.
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