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Retro Resurrection
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Roto Grip™ is proud to announce the release of the Retro Resurrection.

The Resurrection is energized by the newly modified Rotary III™ core. We selected all the best qualities of the original Retro™ along with the Silver Streaks™ to build the supreme core. The rotary III™ core creates superior mid-lane control with constant backend reaction.

The coverstock surrounding this core is the performance proven Sure Grip™ reactive. This translates into unbeatable execution on all lane surfaces.



Specifications

Factory Finish  1500- Polished  
Radius Of Gyration  16lb - (2.55)
15lb - (2.57)
14lb - (2.63)
12&13lb - (2.66)  
Differential  (.045)  
Lane Condition  Medium Oil  
Flare Potential  4-5 Inches  
Length  13 (20 scale)  
Backend  18 (20 scale)  
Coverstock  Sure Grip™ Reactive
Available Weights  12-16 Lbs.  
Weight Block  Rotary III™ core  
Color  Retro Red & Gray  
D-Scale  75-78


 

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Re: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2005, 05:25:21 PM »
This is my second Retro. #14der drilled pin above bridge with cg swung 1" out. Just like my #15der. Fantastic hit and carry. The only difference was the color of the balls and cover prep. #14 came dull w/dark red and gray while the #15 is just like the picture and polished??? Nevertheless it still a great ball. Midlane read with recovery. Surprisely plays better for me playing deep inside. When I played 10 to 5 I left a ton of 7 pins and I'm righthanded?!
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Re: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2005, 01:14:10 AM »
Great Ball! Ball smoothly glides through the heads and has ter-ret syndrome
on the back ends!
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Re: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2005, 05:07:58 PM »
15 lbs 4 oz
3-3.5" pin
2.66 top weight

I am still not very good with the drilling terms but mine has the pin 1" to the top right of the ring finger.




I just got my retro punched up two weeks ago and have used it quite a bit to get used to it and all I can say is WOW what a huge difference from my old equipment.  I switched from 16-16 lbs and wanted to start with a bench mark ball and I have found it.  One house I play at I am pretty sure is THS and this ball is awsome on it and with this type of shot I can just adjust my feet and play all night (you can also play about any line.  The only problem I had was when there is to much oil the ball is very over under, but that is why I am going to pick up a EPic at the end of the month.

All in all I give this a 9 out of 10

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Re: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2007, 12:13:53 AM »
If you can still find one of these, or pick one up used, I'd suggest you do it. This ball will fill several holes in your arsenal.

Mine is a 15-pound ball, about a 3.5" pin, with the pin 1" above and between the bridge and the CG in the palm. My ball is one of the darker grey/deep red ones with green graphics. Ugly ball, but that's not relevant to performance.

I got mine used after what appeared to be a pretty full life in the hands of its previous owner. I have no doubt mine reacts more mildly than a NIB ball would.

Performance characteristics remind me of the classic Storm Thunder. The ball can get angular in the back end, but it prefers to be rolled rather than expected to skid/snap. It is silk-smooth through the heads, makes a predictable turn in the back and has excellent carry. It really throws the pins around.

The ball is very versatile and predictable. Predictability may be its best virtue, other than carry. This ball will give you what you put into it, and while there is decent recovery in the back, the best attribute here is that you won't have to worry about over/under for even a second.

This ball was and is a winner. Pick one up if you can find it.

Jess

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Re: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2007, 10:47:36 PM »
Revolutions: 300-330 RPMS
Speed: 17mph @ 50 ft
Axis Rotation: 60 degrees
Axis Tilt: 15-20 degrees
PAP: 5" right, 1" up

This ball fits an awesome niche for me and has bailed me out in many tricky situations.  I have the Retro Ressurection layed out with the pin under my ring finger, and the C.G. on the negative side of the grip.  I "buried" the middle finger 3 inches deep so I wouldn't have to add an x-hole and I polished it with "Tour Shine".

For those of you that don't know about "Tour Shine", it is a VERY Strong polish that they used to use on tour in the late 80s to polish up the Urethane Hammers which were very hard to polish.  It then made a breif comeback to the tour with the first generation of Particle balls which didn't take to polish very well.  Basically, this stuff could polish a cinderblock, but it's very hard to find.  

The high luster and tame drilling on this ball allows me to square up to friction on any lane surface and let me play my bread and butter(Throwing it hard outside of the first arrow with alot of speed and side rotation).  This ball pretty much ignores any sign of early burn on the lanes.  I was having the problem in my house shot leagues of coming out of the gate strong the first two games, but disaster striking the last game ranging between 150-180 simply due to alot of splits and washouts due to unpredictable transition.  With so many guys in league throwing these high friction balls in the middle of the lane, there's no telling how the shot will break down from week to week, game to game, frame to frame.  This always left me fishing last game trying to avoid splits and washouts in the mix of 9/ 8/ all game.  

What this ball/layout/surface adjustment allows me to do is to take a 6-8 board step right of everyone the last game and play the outside friction on the lanes.  Compared to my Silver Streak Solid, the Retro Ressurection is 4-6 feet longer and more angular on the backend.  This gives me a greak look in later games as not many bowlers can consistantly play boards 2-4 and throwing it hard.  This fits into my wheelhouse and really enables me to piece together a strong set on the easier patterns which have been killing me this year.  Since I found this combination 2 weeks ago in my monday night leagues, my last games have upped 40-50 pins into the 220-240 range.  

While this ball does fit a niche reaction for me, other players will love having a smooth, predictable roll from this ball on fresher medium to light conditions.
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Re: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2008, 02:22:59 AM »
The ball: 16 pounds, 2-inch pin
The drill: Pin below bridge, CG directly below in the palm, no weight hole. Works out to a 4.25 x 4 drill for me. Finish is box.
Me: PAP 4 over 3/8 up, tweener revs, good speed, good circumference coverage

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Look two reviews down and you'll see my review of my initial Retro that I still have. This review is for a second one that I bought via an eBay closeout. It was heavier than my last ball (16 pounds vs. 15 pounds) and had a shorter pin.

My first Retro is drilled pin over bridge and has polish added. I dropped the pin below the bridge on this one and left the ball in a matte finish.

Not surprisingly, I can see similar characteristics between the two balls due to the similar drill patterns. Both balls are smooth but offer a nice bite off late dry. Both balls push through the heads well, even when a little burnt.

As expected, the ball I left in box condition was a little sooner than the polished version and could handle a little bit more volume up front. Carry on this ball, however, was not quite up to what it is on my polished version. Both balls have the tendency to leave corners more often than a lot of my gear but it's particularly an issue with the box-finish ball.

Probably the best thing about both Retros is the predictability. This is an excellent ball for novice bowlers needing a single ball for their game or a single strike ball to go along with plastic. The ball never overreacts or underreacts. It doesn't give you a lot of bailout, but it doesn't give you any unpleasant surprises, either.

It is most at home on true mediums. Polished, it will handle medium and medium-light. Left in its box finish, it will handle mediums and perhaps medium-heavy, depending on your rev rate. Enough polish will give you a dry-lane ball, but I don't think any amount of sanding will ever make this ball an oiler. Another highlight of this ball is cover longevity, as my polished ball has immense game traffic on it and still performs well.

This is my favorite Roto Grip ball of all time and one of my top 10 of all time.  If I had to pick only one ball to bowl the rest of my life with, this would probably be it. The summary follows:

Positives: Extreme predictability, tunable cover, one of the best weapons on medium conditions ever built.

Negatives: Carry on corner pins is only average, can't be made to handle true heavy oil conditions, not a lot of mistake cover-up on shots sent wide.

Overall: The definition of what a good bowling ball is, and very undervalued by the general public.

Jess

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Re: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2012, 11:39:11 PM »
I just bought this ball. Hav erv always loved roto grip, but I'm more a fan of their older stuff (i.e. Rs1, rsp, rush, etc) which is why I bought this ball. I own and use an rs1 and rsp, both in my bag. I always wanted a resurrection and I'm glad I waited. Ball surface is at 1000 with stage one polish. This is a one plug ball and want used very much before I got it. So I drilled it with the pin just next to rf almost in a 4x4 layout. I have only thrown 2 games with this ball, but already had a home in my bag. I bowled on a fresh 40' house shot at my center and started with a 228, I made a bad decision to stand too far left my first ball, opened the first, ran 5, then stuffed a 10 pin and had also left a 9 and 7 in between strikes. The ball felt so good in my hand I knew I would eventually shoot 300 with it by how smooth ite rolled and how much it carried. So I proceeded to do just that and my second game shot a 300 with this ball. I am excited to try this ball out on my team usa sport league and see how I can finish up the year. I so far have no complaints about this ball, and anyone who thinks older balls can't compete with newer ones, I'll tell you this: the newest ball I currently use is a storm reign supreme, motiv recon, and occasionally a 607a. Everything else in my bag is from early to mid 2000s.

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Roto Grip Defiant Bowling Ball
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2012, 08:11:24 PM »
Roto Grip Defiant Bowling Ball
  Color: Blue/Purple/Black
  Coverstock: MicroBite™ Solid Reactive
  Weight Block: Asymmetric
  Factory Finish: 3000-grit Abralon®
  Flare Potential: High
  Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.49
  Differential (Diff): 0.054
  Intermediate Differential (Mass Bias): 0.017
  Description: At Roto Grip, we rule the lanes! And you better have your game in gear if you want the same.

The new Paragon™ core features contours designed to help expand the RG planes of the ball.
This unique elliptical shape defines predictability
MicroBite™ coverstock is stronger and more textured
When finished with 3000-grit Abralon®, this new MicroBite shell creates friction!, The Defiant is sure to handle even the heaviest amounts of oil.
With the Defiant, no more worrying about heavy oil
Axis migration reaction to the condition at hand.
Strong midlane roll and a  continuous, sweeping movement on the backend
This is a great addition to  handle  bowling  Conditions.
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Re: Retro Resurrection
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2012, 01:12:19 AM »
Whoa, interesting timestamp on the first post in this thread! 1969! This ball would be the Pre-pre-pre-pre-pre Roto Grip Resurrection!  ;D