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Rogue Cell
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
- Coverstock: Cytoplasmic XL Hybrid Reactive
- Color: Sky Blue / Purple / Royal Pearl Blue All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Weight Block: Nucleus Core in 14 – 16lbs Modified Nucleus™ Core in 12, 13lbs.
- Factory Finish: 4000 Abralon
- Track Flare Potential: 7"+ (High)
- RG Average: 2.52 (Medium Low) on a scale of 2.43-2.8 Very low-High Break Point
- RG Differential: .048 (Medium) on a scale of .000-.080 Low-High Flare
- Recommended Lane Conditions: Medium-Heavey Oil
- Description: A new generation within the kingdom has materialized and looks to seek total domination. The Rogue Cell utilizes the latest generation of the Cytoplasmic coverstock series. The Cytoplasmic XL hybrid reactive coverstock features a unique blend of additives creating the highest friction to lane values ever produced by Roto Grip. The blend of solid and pearl coverstock generates the strongest and most consistent hook from release to impact. The energy from within comes from the highly successful, performance proven Nucleus core. This unique asymmetrical core powered the original Cell to "Ball of the Year" in 2008. Mutated from the original, the Rogue Cell is set to challenge for superiority in the bowling kingdom.

 

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 11:57:30 AM »
This ball rolls as advertised. You get the strong midlane roll like the Cell with a more defined breakpoint and backend motion similar to the Cell Pearl.
Ball is drilled 4 1/4 inch pin to pap and 4 3/4 inch MB to pap. I drilled the Rogue strong in preparation for USBC Nationals. I expect to see a good volume of oil and will count on the Rogue to give me the great read in the front part of the lane that we've come to expect from the Cell, with more friction on the backend that we've come to expect from the Cell Pearl. After 10 games or so, this ball gives me an additional 4-5 boards on the backend than the original Cell.  More to come

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 12:04:28 PM »
Ball specs – 15 lbs 3 oz, 3.34 top weight, 3 inch pin.

The Rogue Cell was punched using the dual angle layout method, 4.5” pin X 58 degree drill angle X 35 degree VAL angle.  This put the pin just above and slightly right of the ring finger. The mass bias (RG) is about 2 inches right of the thumb.  The CG is about one inch right of being inline.  An X-hole was needed due to the CG position and was placed in the P2 position using the gradient line method.  The finish was left OOB at 4000 abralon.  

I compared the Rogue with the original “Ball of the Year” Cell and the Pearl Cell.  The Rogue provides a different ball motion that is a great compliment.  The Rogue provides just a fraction more length than the original but the backend is 5 to 7 boards stronger.  I believe part of this is due to the layout differences and balance hole between the two (please refer to my Cell review on BallReviews.com) and the new cover stock formula, which is very strong.  When compared with the Pearl Cell with a similar layout (minus the balance hole), the Rogue starts up sooner than the Pearl Cell but does not quite match the backend of the Pearl.  However, let me say again that the Rogue is very strong off the friction.  The Rogue Cell provides the same explosive hit and carry bowlers have come to expect from the Cell line up.  The Rogue is another great addition to the pioneering CELL product line which continues to be offered at a great price point.


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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 08:23:19 PM »
5"x4" w/ a 3" pin buffer.

For me it ended up being a pin over ring, with mb in a stacked position.

Initial impressions: Pretty!!! I thought from the info that this ball was going to fit pretty nicely between the cell and cell pearl. I wanted to see the ball get a little longer than the cell, but not quite as long as the pearl.
Decided to go with a little weaker drilling to get the look I was after.

Ball motion is exactly what I expected on the THS. I get about 2 feet less length than the pearl, and gets through the heads a little cleaner than the cell does for me.

As far as the strength of the ball it is easily 5-7 boards stronger than my pearl, but potentially could be alot stronger if drilled to do so....

Hopefully this helps, and I should have a video up in the next few days.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 09:54:08 PM »
Hi all,

Im proud to present to you the Rogue Cell Video From Roto Grip.

http://www.videoballreviews.com/roguecell.html

or here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf2u0G1C_M

The next cell is here…the ROGUE cell

The Rogue Cell is like the original Cell’s Bigger brother…Longer and Stronger than the original, this cell creates as much friction as the Original Cell in the front part of the lane while retaining enough energy to make a move similar to the Cell pearl off the back of the pattern.

The went with the same layout on both the Rogue and Original cell featured in this video. Both balls are at the factory finish with the Original Cell at 2000 and the Rogue at 4000. The Rogue does exactly as advertised, it allows me to get in and open up the lane when the original cell gets “lazy” down lane. The Cell in the video is a fresh ball with less than one game on it, so you can see how much more aggressive the Rogue is even with the higher surface grit…This gives the Roto-Grip lineup a more angular look on heavier volumes of oil…something their lineup has been lacking.

This ball is the new “King” of the Roto Grip Line-up…a ball that solidifies Roto-Grip’s place in the bowling world as King of them ALL!!!
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 11:12:34 PM »
My pap is listed in my profile! Box specs. 15lb 3oz 2.5-3 pin 3.6 top weight. I used the dual angle layout of 60deg x 41/4" x 65deg, which placed the pin below my middle finger and the RG/MB on my val. I didn't adjust the box finish for now and I had to stand 7 boards left of my Cell Pearl and 5 boards left of my Cell and Strike Cell. The Cell is drilled similar with the pin below the bridge and Cell Pearl below ring finger. I had a tough time keeping the ball in the pocket and a soft roll caused it to cross over. I'll post another review when I get on more oil, this was a fresh oil pattern that had just been done for league.
Update: I compared this to a fresh Hybrid Cell and I had to move left 4 boards and I had to watch my ball speed, cause if I got soft with the Rogue it was through the face. I used this ball at the Pinnacle in Clarksville, TN and shot 765 and had all kinds of room with this ball! This ball gets through the heads with ease and has a similar look of the Pearl at the break point, only stronger with the continuation as the original Cell.
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2009, 02:00:55 PM »
Great compliment to the original Cell.  I have 2, one with the pin 6.25" from my PAP and the other 5.25".  The Rogue has more recovery downlane than the regular Cell and allows me to open up my angles more.  The regular Cell has been one of my favorites but sometimes I wish it had a little more backend, especially when playing 4th arrow and deeper.  The Rogue has the strength up front to startup in the oil but the guts downlane to turn the corner.  Great recovery from Rogue.

Take a look at this quick video:
http://home.comcast.net/~anthonychapman/Rogue_Cell.wmv
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 03:00:55 PM »
My Cell Rogue is drilled with the pin under the fingers. The layout is 4” pin from PAP and 21/2” Mass Bias from PAP.  There is a extra hole on the PAP.
The Rogue reacted as expected.  This ball has a more angular move to the pocket than the Cell and starts in the mid lane sooner than the Cell Pearl.  The hitting power and the backend reaction are as expected strong and continuous. Because of my slower ball speed, I will need some head oil so the ball doesn't burn  up its energy too early.
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2009, 12:35:55 AM »
drilled my Rogue up with the pin over the ring finger 6x3 with a 2 inch pin buffer. I wanted the ball to get through the heads. With my somewhat early roll anyway I tried to get some length. It worked better than I could have imagined. On our house shot with synthetic the front half and wood the second half. The ball was great I got a good mid-lane read which I don't always get on these lanes. The recovery on bad shots right was perfect with know violent over reaction. When I pulled it slightly it seemed to go a bit longer and just straighten up at the pocket. I have a lot of trouble carrying in this house but in my first outing I had 25 strikes and shot 781 out of the box. This is a nice addition to the Cell line. Bob Korth

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2009, 12:12:08 PM »
I drilled my Rogue using the Dual Angle layout, the numbers are 50/5/35. This is a different layout from my original Cell, which has a layout of 50/5/70. These two balls compliment each other very well. The two balls seem to roll about the same in the mid-lane, but the Rogue gives me more recovery on the backend. I can line up with my original Cell, and I then need to move about 6 or so boards right (since I am left handed) with my feet and about 3 with my eyes to get the Rogue to the pocket.

Not only does this ball look great but it rolls great as well. Another great ball from Hank Boomershine and everyone at Roto Grip. Keep up the good work
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2009, 03:54:08 PM »
ok i just drilled this new rogue cell using the dual angle drilling method. it is layed out with a 45*6"65*. this is a layout i really enjoyed on the original cell and i wanted to see what it would look like on this new cell. i have thrown about 20 games with it so far and love it. i left it at box finish and then put my original cell at 4000 abralon so i could get a good idea of about how different they were from each other. i found with both of them at 4000 it does as advertised. it ended up reading the mids a bit better and was alot more continuous on the back. i found that the rogue cell was about a total of 5-7 boards more over all hook than the original cell. after throwing a few games like that i decided to change the surface a little and put a shine on it to see what it would do, and boy was i in for a supprise. that rogue rolled so much better than the original cell and for me was a stronger move off of the point than i get with my cell pearl. the difference in reaction from it being oob finish and being shined was amazing. it gave me about almost 2 more feet of length that the cell did with with a ungodly amount of backend. to me polished it was like a cell pearl that read the mids and was very strong off the spot but yet still very controllable. this ball is just down right amazing and i don't think there is a bag out there that couldn't use the rogue cell in it.
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2009, 07:15:35 PM »
Layout
Pin 5 1/2 (2" buffer)
MB - 75 degrees
No weight hole

When drilling this ball I was looking for something that I could get cleaner through the heads than my Cell, which is drilled similar but with a 45 degree MB.  This by far turned out to be one of the most versitle balls I have drilled in sometime. While practicing on a house pattern I was able to play almost any angle that I wished.  While being a high rev player this ball clears the heads nicely and gives a very strong but predictable move in the back part of the lane.  The Rouge Cell is going to be a great ball for almost any style and will fit in a lot of arensals.  You definitly cannot go wrong with this one.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2009, 10:00:56 PM »
I had Rich drill my new Rogue Cell yesterday.  He set it up 55 degree 4 1/2” dual angle 40 degree hole on) P3 7/8 3” deep.  I don’t understand the drilling talk but I understand the way bowling ball should perform once they are drilled.  Last night I bowled 4 games and I was bowling pretty well but my score didn’t show as good as I would have liked it.  My games where 238,238, 222, and 234.  I’m going to a big tournament next week so my friend and I finish early because there were bowlers missing on the other team.  So we bowled on the same pair while the league was still on both sides of us.  We discussed that maybe I wasn’t playing deep enough for the new Rogue Cell.  I moved about 8 boards deeper and lofted the ball to the dots, and guess what I bowled 11 strike on the first game and a 300 the next game yes a perfect game.  Even so that it’s only practice it still feels good specially when everybody is watching to see how the ball is reacting.  The Rogue Cell is the best ball I have used in a long time and I drill a lot of balls.  The house shot is pretty easy but I haven’t felt so good about a ball reaction in a long time.  The balls hits so hard it amazes me that I was able to use an aggressive ball like this on the house shot.  My prediction: We will see someone win with this ball on the PBA tour within the next month.  It should be illegal to have equipment this good lol.

PS: I pre-bowl last night for next week and shot 980 for 4 games with the Rogue Cell

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2009, 01:10:48 PM »
Hello all,

No surprise here, Roto-Grip has done it again.  I just drilled the new Rogue Cell and it is unreal.  It seems to be a blend of the Cell and the Cell Pearl.  It gets through the midlane like the Cell Pearl but has the back-end reaction like the original Cell.  I have only bowled about 4-5 games with it so far, but I have a feeling this is going to be the next BIG THING.  I will keep you all posted as to how it works on tournament patterns, etc. in the coming weeks.

Jeffrey Butler


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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2009, 09:45:34 PM »
I've had my rogue for about a week now and luckily with travel league and bowling the greater ozark tournment in springfield this week I got to see a lot of different surfaces and patterns.  I drilledmyrogue with the pin 4-1/2" from my axis(under ring finger) with my mass bias on my val.  I left it box surface last week to see how it would handle the house conditions around here.(2 wood and 1 synthetic house)  All three have 42 feet patterns and are heavily loaded up in the middles.  The rogue got through the heads cleaner than my solid and had a much stronger recovery than the pearl once it cleared the pattern.  Now this weekend in springfield was a different story, the team event was tough just because of the volume of oil that was out there and not just in the middles..there was a huge ob for mostly everyone but changing quick to my rogue (now at 2000 abralon)  I was able to split the lane wide open.  I had room to miss where the ball would still recover that no one else had...and I mean no one!  I was definitly impressed with it and it will never leave my bag for touraments and anytime I want that extra "kick" down lane
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