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Rogue Cell
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
- Coverstock: Cytoplasmic XL Hybrid Reactive
- Color: Sky Blue / Purple / Royal Pearl Blue All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Weight Block: Nucleus Core in 14 – 16lbs Modified Nucleus™ Core in 12, 13lbs.
- Factory Finish: 4000 Abralon
- Track Flare Potential: 7"+ (High)
- RG Average: 2.52 (Medium Low) on a scale of 2.43-2.8 Very low-High Break Point
- RG Differential: .048 (Medium) on a scale of .000-.080 Low-High Flare
- Recommended Lane Conditions: Medium-Heavey Oil
- Description: A new generation within the kingdom has materialized and looks to seek total domination. The Rogue Cell utilizes the latest generation of the Cytoplasmic coverstock series. The Cytoplasmic XL hybrid reactive coverstock features a unique blend of additives creating the highest friction to lane values ever produced by Roto Grip. The blend of solid and pearl coverstock generates the strongest and most consistent hook from release to impact. The energy from within comes from the highly successful, performance proven Nucleus core. This unique asymmetrical core powered the original Cell to "Ball of the Year" in 2008. Mutated from the original, the Rogue Cell is set to challenge for superiority in the bowling kingdom.

 

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2009, 12:07:29 AM »
Okay lets call this ball the best of the best. I got my Rogue tonight and I had it drilled 4 by 4 so I could get it to hook up early with it. Well I never thought I would have the sucess that i had with this ball this quick. I bowl in two shift tonight and average over 800. The first set I went 270 246 275 for 791. The second shift I went 289 damn 10 pin. 278 and 247 for 814. If you are looking for a ball that is going to hook get the Rogue it will not disappoint.


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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2009, 08:18:36 AM »
I have thrown the Rogue a few games now and it is amazing.  I drilled it 5-1/4 x 3-1/2 x 2 with weight hole on my PAP (5 right).  This ball had excellent recovery when pushed wide and sat nicely if not pulled too much.  If my speed got a little slow the ball crossed over.  I had to stand 4 boards left of my stronger drilled cell pearl.  The balls have similar reaction on the lane.  The Rogue would start up a little sooner but had nice angular reaction.  The Rogue cleared the heads without any issues and was very predictable.  Roto-Grip has another hit on their hands with this ball.  I will update when I get back from nationals at the end of the month.
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2009, 11:29:45 AM »
15 lb. Dual Angle Drilling: 5” PAP  Drill Angle 40 deg. VAL Angle 55 deg.  Box Finish

Drill intention:  Good read in the middle part of the lane with earlier hook, but continue through the pins.

I am playing more of the lane than I thought I would, but I love the ball and the drilling.  League night puts down a decent amount of oil (modified house shot, lower scoring for best scratch league in the area), but it is no problem for the Rogue.  Any shot close to the pocket is carrying for me, even shots I think are weak, still snaps out the 10 pin.  I bowled a tournament over the weekend at a center that is known for bad carry.  I started out with 277 – 258 to win the first 2 high games and rolled to lead qualifying.  This ball is a fantastic compliment to the Cell and the Cell Pearl.  This ball will be in my bag for a long time.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2009, 03:17:22 PM »
Just had my ball man punch my Rogue Tuesday hoping to get a little oil on it before heading to nationals Monday.  We went 4x4x4 which puts the pin under the ring finger.  Went this route with the idea of wanting an arcing shaped look for nationals.  While I didn't throw it more than a couple of practice shots on the house shot my first impression wasn't what I expected by everyone elses reviews.  We will see if it wakes up tonight as I plan to get some frames on it before heading west but it isn't the hook monster I expected.
Granted this layout will be tamer rather than the big kick left off of friction so I am ancious to see what it will do on oil.  I'll add tomorrow some comments on what I see next with it.  Sharp looking piece though.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2009, 11:21:27 PM »
I just got mine tonight.  Drilled 3x3 with no hole and the pin above the fingers.  I wanted a more aggressive drilling for this ball because I spin the ball more than most.  I threw it after league and WOW, what a monster.  No matter how deep I got the ball made the corner with huge hit and great mix on the light shots.  It kepps the pins low which allows for better carry.  To compare, I drilled my second pearl cell last night.  Its 3x3 with a hole and the pin below the fingers.  I shot 733 with that ball tonight thinking it was the most agressive ball in my bag.  WRONG.  I can't wait to try the Rogue this weekend in the Southern States tournament.  The conditions usually start out slick in the middle, so I should be able to get a good look at the Rogue on a fresh condition.  More to come on this great ball.
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2009, 10:20:44 AM »
As stated yesterday I pretty much committed to throwing my Rogue Cell last night in league as most my other equipment is on it's way to my Hotel for nationals.  I wanted to get a little oil in it to wake it up before I went out and knowing I wasn't going to get a chance to throw over the weekend figured league was my only option.  I will add my name to the growing list of impressed bowlers who have been lucky enough to get one of these the past few days.  The way the night started wasn't to sure but that changed in a hurry.
Practice showed everyone the shot was touchy.  Miss a little out and the ball wanted to hang, try to keep it tighter and it wouldn't set up.  With it being a fresh ball it was a similar look for me. Once I had about 10 or 15 balls in which put me half way in to the first game this thing came alive and started to over react.  Moved deeper 2 boards and it pushed through the puddle out to the hang and labored to turn up.  Figured it was time to change something as we were headed to the 10th.  Moved 4 boards more left and stood at 42, moved target to the 40' marker from the third arrow, and changed hand position to work the inside of the ball.  I didn't know IF it would work with the 4x4x4 drill but figured I had to try.  This also would hopefully get me off the hang if I was wide since I'm less apt to miss out targeting 40'.  Drilled all three in the 10th for a whopping 180, but liked my look. High on our par was only 210 first game.  Started game two with the front 6 ,and go bucket (didn't hit it) spare, 10 pin spare and punch for 265.  Next high game was 207.  last game, start with front 5, go 9 pin, spare, strike, 9 pin, spare and punch for 258.  Next high was 210.  Not huge scores but it was a 7 off that 180 start and I had room no one else was close to seeing.  Didn't get a chance to see all of the score sheets but of the ones I did, next closest was about 650.  Ball hits hard and playing in with this layout, If I missed in a pinch it didn't dive left off the end of the pattern but flushed up.  Noticed as others have it keeps pins low and sends scouts cross lane on numerous shots.  I'm sure others will report in from Nationals once they get it and throw it out there but since I bowl with Rockteshel next Friday and Saturday there you'll have a couple reports for sure.  One from a Roto Staffer and one from a house hack who can bowl pretty decent at times.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2009, 11:10:23 AM »
The Rogue Cell is a great complement to the solid Cell and Cell Pearl for  patterns 39' and  longer. I drilled mine using  a 4 1/2" x 4,  pin buffer 1 1/2-2", with a small hole on my axis. The Rogue gets about the same length down lane as the solid Cell with a little more back end movement. The Hybrid cover goes through the heads clean, and reacts smoothly and strongly off the break point on a 39' house shot.  The strong hit of the Cell weight block keeps the pins low with excellent carry.

On the house shot, the Rogue sat nicely on the oil line and hit hard. When I sent it to the dry, early, the ball burned off a little, but did not over react off the breakpoint. This allows a little miss to the right without the ball crashing the nose for a split, but instead maybe leaving a 10 pin.

The Rogue hybrid cover at 4000 abralon gives a nice reaction out of the box. The Rogue will fit into anyone's arsenal as either a first ball or a go to ball. Add a Cell, and a Pearl Cell for a great 3 ball arsenal

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2009, 03:50:14 PM »
Ive now had my Rogue for about 2 weeks or so..now its time for a brief review.
Here is a pic of the layout...

Surface: Box 4000 Abralon
Layout: 5x5 Pin above bridge

What I Wanted: ....wanted a this ball to turn the corner when my Cell was not enough or the Cell Pearl was too much off the spot.

What I Got: Good length w/ that backend off the spot that fit in between my Cell and Cell Pearl.

Many people of the people that asked me what in the world I was throwing couldnt believe that it was another Roto Grip ball. People around here had seen both the Cell and Pearl in action, now cant wait to get their hands on this one!

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2009, 06:44:57 AM »
Roto Grip Rogue Cell
The Rogue Cell is a great complement to the Solid Cell and Cell Pearl .
Making a combination of the two =Hybrid
My Slogan is a 1-2-3 punch  or a Triple in your bowling  bag

The Rogue Cell utilizes the latest generation of the Cytoplasmic XL Hybrid Reactive  cover stock series
With an  blend of unique additives
The Cytoplasmic XL hybrid reactive cover stock  is rated as the  highest friction to lane values ever produced by Roto Grip.
The blend of solid and pearl cover stock  has generated an strong and  consistent hook from release to impact.
The energy  hitting power  comes from the highly successful, performance proven Nucleus core.
 The Hybrid Rogue goes through the  heads clean due to Factory Finish of 4000 Abralon the reaction is smooth and strong off the break point .
Which Promotes Excellent Carry.
On Hooking heads  if the Rogue ball burns up too early,
Shined it’s become more forgiven which will allow you to miss right without the early burn (User Friendly )
Which allows the highest percentage of pin fall
The Rogue Coverstock  is also User Friendly  and can be tweaked with the same result as the original Solid Cell,
A must Buy to complete your tool kit
RG Average: 2.52 (Medium Low) on a scale of 2.43-2.8 Very low-High Break Point
RG Differential: .048 (Medium) on a scale of .000-.080 Low-High Flare
Asymmetrical core powered the original Cell
Coverstock: Cytoplasmic XL Hybrid Reactive

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2009, 10:36:25 PM »
15 lb 3.75 pin 3.05 top
I drilled this ball with 5" x 4" with pin over fingers.  This put MB 1.5 right of the thumb.  I wanted to be able to use this ball here at home without touching the surface.  weight hole 5" over.  So far in league play, 725 and 738 with high of 258.  I am very impressed with the way I can get this ball thru the heads.  We use the track alot but the back end for me in this layout was smooth and did not jerk.  I was very surprised how smooth this ball is in the friction part of the lane without a big hard jerk, which this layout usually brings.  My favorite and first balls to use are the Cell Pearls but with a little more oil this will be a great alternative.  I love this ball.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2009, 11:28:04 PM »
The Best out of the three. Especially for versatility. I have punched three so far. Fits awesome between the Pearl and the original. Very controllable backend and hits extremely hard. I could drill these to do anything I want. Very strong or week and all hit hard. Awesome product.

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2009, 11:41:25 AM »
SPECS: 3-4” pin 3.25oz top

DRILLING: 4x4 with 2”buffer, 1 1/8” hole on VAL 2” below PAP.

SURFACE: box finish


After drilling this beauty I was a little disappointed at first, all because there was not enough oil around here for this strong of drilling on the new Rogue.  My recommendation is not to drill this ball with the pin closer then 5” Unless you bowl on an absolute flood.

 THS- I really didn’t get the best read in league with this, starting league playing between 4-5 arrow just didn’t seem right, but I did it anyway. The reaction I got was the strongest mid-lane read I have seen yet from the Cell line, but just enough pop on the back for it to strike.  I only got about 15 frames before I had to switch to my Pearl Cell it was starting to burn up so I figured I would switch before losing my set. The Cell Pearl matches up really well to the new Rogue.

USBC Open- I bowled a tournament that put this pattern down, it was 8 games across the house (24lanes). Since we were only bowling 1 game then moving to a new pair, each pair play different, because of the different play and lack of team break down strategy. The Rogue gave me the most consistent look even though each pair was different. On this pattern the ball work relatively good playing out, but as so as I had to migrate toward the middle of the lane it went too far before making its move. So as I had to move in I switch to my regular Cell (1000 abrolon) and was the magic guess (200 over for my last 3 games).

In closing I think the Rogue is my favorite Cell as of yet, it clears the heads like the pearl, but still reads the mids well with strong continuous back-end.If you have any further questions you can reach me a strike2win@hotmail.com

I will be drilling my second Rogue this week, and will give a Review of that after some play with it. Thanks!


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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2009, 01:34:13 PM »
Layout- 4.5” X 4.25” Pin Over and Right of Ring, Hole 5” straight out small/shallow

I have to say, I had high expectations for the Rogue Cell and amazingly this ball has surpassed them. I expected that what I had heard was true, that it would have a breakpoint shape and length between the 2 prior Cell balls with a little more overall reaction (at the very least on house patterns) than both, but this ball has opened up the lane for me like nothing else I have ever thrown. In my scratch league they lay out a very over/under pattern and pretty much nobody can get left on it because there is such a massive flood in the middle- but now I can. I’ve hardly lost a match play point in that league the few weeks I’ve thrown it. Quite frankly, it feels like cheating, much like the Cell did when it was new- but that much more. Furthermore, it wants to create an ideal ball reaction on every condition I’ve thrown it. If I back out of it I can still throw it on burnt heads and it still wants to clear the front, roll in the midlane, pop on the back and continue for the rack. There is not a better value on the market. Plus the ball looks dreamy too. From a pro shop perspective, this ball is gonna move too. I got two early from Roto Grip’s pre release program- one lasted 10 minutes and the other lasted an hour and a half. I didn’t even try to sell them. Bowlers walked in and just asked for it the second they saw it. It’ll be nice to have a shot in the arm from a bowling ball (in terms of performance and sales) in March. How often does that happen?

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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2009, 06:56:14 PM »
I wanted to wait a while before I posted my review on the Rogue Cell so I could give it an accurate review and the wait was worth it.  The original Cell has been my favorite Roto Grip ball to date, but in a short period of time the Rogue Cell has taken over.  Last weekend I won the Colorado Springs Masters using the Rogue Cell and had the best ball reaction out of everybody.  We bowled on the Shark Pattern and I had three of the four highest sets during match play including sets of 655, 730, and 697.  I was beating people by an average of 100 pins per game and it was truly due in part to the Rogue Cell.  In fact, if I didn't have the Rogue Cell in my bag that weekend I don't think I would have won the tournament.  The layout I used had the pin below the fingers.  I also have another Rogue Cell that I've been throwing very well where I have the pin kicked out where my axis is.  I've only been able to throw the ball a little bit on house conditions because quite honestly it is too much ball for your typical house pattern.  When it comes to sport and PBA patterns the Rogue Cell is a must for any bowler’s arsenal.  It will give you a distinct advantage over the other competitors because the strong but smooth reaction the Rogue delivers is unlike anything I have ever experienced before.
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Re: Rogue Cell
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2009, 09:36:30 PM »
The Rogue doesn’t listen to anyone or anything.  It simply reacts strong and hits hard regardless of what the lanes or your competitors want.  What a great addition to the Cell line-up.  Clean through the fronts, great mid read and strong, angular backs.  This ball doesn’t seem to care too much about carry down.
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