Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
- Color: Sky Blue / Purple / Royal Pearl Blue All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Weight Block: Nucleus Core in 14 – 16lbs Modified Nucleus™ Core in 12, 13lbs.
- Factory Finish: 4000 Abralon
- Track Flare Potential: 7"+ (High)
- RG Average: 2.52 (Medium Low) on a scale of 2.43-2.8 Very low-High Break Point
- RG Differential: .048 (Medium) on a scale of .000-.080 Low-High Flare
- Recommended Lane Conditions: Medium-Heavey Oil
- Description: A new generation within the kingdom has materialized and looks to seek total domination. The Rogue Cell utilizes the latest generation of the Cytoplasmic coverstock series. The Cytoplasmic XL hybrid reactive coverstock features a unique blend of additives creating the highest friction to lane values ever produced by Roto Grip. The blend of solid and pearl coverstock generates the strongest and most consistent hook from release to impact. The energy from within comes from the highly successful, performance proven Nucleus core. This unique asymmetrical core powered the original Cell to "Ball of the Year" in 2008. Mutated from the original, the Rogue Cell is set to challenge for superiority in the bowling kingdom.
Post by: BShep on March 05, 2009, 11:57:30 AM
Ball is drilled 4 1/4 inch pin to pap and 4 3/4 inch MB to pap. I drilled the Rogue strong in preparation for USBC Nationals. I expect to see a good volume of oil and will count on the Rogue to give me the great read in the front part of the lane that we've come to expect from the Cell, with more friction on the backend that we've come to expect from the Cell Pearl. After 10 games or so, this ball gives me an additional 4-5 boards on the backend than the original Cell. More to come
Post by: John Brodersen on March 05, 2009, 12:04:28 PM
The Rogue Cell was punched using the dual angle layout method, 4.5†pin X 58 degree drill angle X 35 degree VAL angle. This put the pin just above and slightly right of the ring finger. The mass bias (RG) is about 2 inches right of the thumb. The CG is about one inch right of being inline. An X-hole was needed due to the CG position and was placed in the P2 position using the gradient line method. The finish was left OOB at 4000 abralon.
I compared the Rogue with the original “Ball of the Year†Cell and the Pearl Cell. The Rogue provides a different ball motion that is a great compliment. The Rogue provides just a fraction more length than the original but the backend is 5 to 7 boards stronger. I believe part of this is due to the layout differences and balance hole between the two (please refer to my Cell review on BallReviews.com) and the new cover stock formula, which is very strong. When compared with the Pearl Cell with a similar layout (minus the balance hole), the Rogue starts up sooner than the Pearl Cell but does not quite match the backend of the Pearl. However, let me say again that the Rogue is very strong off the friction. The Rogue Cell provides the same explosive hit and carry bowlers have come to expect from the Cell line up. The Rogue is another great addition to the pioneering CELL product line which continues to be offered at a great price point.
John Brodersen
Post by: TBS1 on March 05, 2009, 08:23:19 PM
For me it ended up being a pin over ring, with mb in a stacked position.
Initial impressions: Pretty!!! I thought from the info that this ball was going to fit pretty nicely between the cell and cell pearl. I wanted to see the ball get a little longer than the cell, but not quite as long as the pearl.
Decided to go with a little weaker drilling to get the look I was after.
Ball motion is exactly what I expected on the THS. I get about 2 feet less length than the pearl, and gets through the heads a little cleaner than the cell does for me.
As far as the strength of the ball it is easily 5-7 boards stronger than my pearl, but potentially could be alot stronger if drilled to do so....
Hopefully this helps, and I should have a video up in the next few days.
Thanks,
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Post by: VideoBallReviews on March 05, 2009, 09:54:08 PM
Im proud to present to you the Rogue Cell Video From Roto Grip.
http://www.videoballreviews.com/roguecell.html
or here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf2u0G1C_M
The next cell is here…the ROGUE cell
The Rogue Cell is like the original Cell’s Bigger brother…Longer and Stronger than the original, this cell creates as much friction as the Original Cell in the front part of the lane while retaining enough energy to make a move similar to the Cell pearl off the back of the pattern.
The went with the same layout on both the Rogue and Original cell featured in this video. Both balls are at the factory finish with the Original Cell at 2000 and the Rogue at 4000. The Rogue does exactly as advertised, it allows me to get in and open up the lane when the original cell gets “lazy†down lane. The Cell in the video is a fresh ball with less than one game on it, so you can see how much more aggressive the Rogue is even with the higher surface grit…This gives the Roto-Grip lineup a more angular look on heavier volumes of oil…something their lineup has been lacking.
This ball is the new “King†of the Roto Grip Line-up…a ball that solidifies Roto-Grip’s place in the bowling world as King of them ALL!!!
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Post by: batbowler on March 05, 2009, 11:12:34 PM
Update: I compared this to a fresh Hybrid Cell and I had to move left 4 boards and I had to watch my ball speed, cause if I got soft with the Rogue it was through the face. I used this ball at the Pinnacle in Clarksville, TN and shot 765 and had all kinds of room with this ball! This ball gets through the heads with ease and has a similar look of the Pearl at the break point, only stronger with the continuation as the original Cell.
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Post by: BackToBasics on March 06, 2009, 02:00:55 PM
Take a look at this quick video:
http://home.comcast.net/~anthonychapman/Rogue_Cell.wmv
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Vise Grips Staff 2009
Post by: Mikelj on March 07, 2009, 03:00:55 PM
The Rogue reacted as expected. This ball has a more angular move to the pocket than the Cell and starts in the mid lane sooner than the Cell Pearl. The hitting power and the backend reaction are as expected strong and continuous. Because of my slower ball speed, I will need some head oil so the ball doesn't burn up its energy too early.
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Mike Johnston
Roto Grip Advisory Staff
Post by: bowlrbob on March 08, 2009, 12:35:55 AM
Post by: MoonsLefty on March 08, 2009, 12:12:08 PM
Not only does this ball look great but it rolls great as well. Another great ball from Hank Boomershine and everyone at Roto Grip. Keep up the good work
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Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Post by: Rotopps_thomas on March 09, 2009, 03:54:08 PM
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Post by: JMartin27407 on March 09, 2009, 07:15:35 PM
Pin 5 1/2 (2" buffer)
MB - 75 degrees
No weight hole
When drilling this ball I was looking for something that I could get cleaner through the heads than my Cell, which is drilled similar but with a 45 degree MB. This by far turned out to be one of the most versitle balls I have drilled in sometime. While practicing on a house pattern I was able to play almost any angle that I wished. While being a high rev player this ball clears the heads nicely and gives a very strong but predictable move in the back part of the lane. The Rouge Cell is going to be a great ball for almost any style and will fit in a lot of arensals. You definitly cannot go wrong with this one.
Jimmy Martin
Roto-Grip Amateur Staff
Orlando FL
Post by: mrr300 on March 09, 2009, 10:00:56 PM
PS: I pre-bowl last night for next week and shot 980 for 4 games with the Rogue Cell
Post by: Jeff Butler on March 11, 2009, 01:10:48 PM
No surprise here, Roto-Grip has done it again. I just drilled the new Rogue Cell and it is unreal. It seems to be a blend of the Cell and the Cell Pearl. It gets through the midlane like the Cell Pearl but has the back-end reaction like the original Cell. I have only bowled about 4-5 games with it so far, but I have a feeling this is going to be the next BIG THING. I will keep you all posted as to how it works on tournament patterns, etc. in the coming weeks.
Jeffrey Butler
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Post by: bowltsproshop on March 11, 2009, 09:45:34 PM
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Rotogrip Amateur Staff Member
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Post by: PikevilleBwl on March 12, 2009, 12:07:29 AM
Post by: rockteschel on March 12, 2009, 08:18:36 AM
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Post by: Mr Scary on March 12, 2009, 11:29:45 AM
Drill intention: Good read in the middle part of the lane with earlier hook, but continue through the pins.
I am playing more of the lane than I thought I would, but I love the ball and the drilling. League night puts down a decent amount of oil (modified house shot, lower scoring for best scratch league in the area), but it is no problem for the Rogue. Any shot close to the pocket is carrying for me, even shots I think are weak, still snaps out the 10 pin. I bowled a tournament over the weekend at a center that is known for bad carry. I started out with 277 – 258 to win the first 2 high games and rolled to lead qualifying. This ball is a fantastic compliment to the Cell and the Cell Pearl. This ball will be in my bag for a long time.
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Roto Grip Amatuer Staff
Post by: THEICEMAN on March 12, 2009, 03:17:22 PM
Granted this layout will be tamer rather than the big kick left off of friction so I am ancious to see what it will do on oil. I'll add tomorrow some comments on what I see next with it. Sharp looking piece though.
theiceman
Post by: partners30 on March 12, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
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Post by: THEICEMAN on March 13, 2009, 10:20:44 AM
Practice showed everyone the shot was touchy. Miss a little out and the ball wanted to hang, try to keep it tighter and it wouldn't set up. With it being a fresh ball it was a similar look for me. Once I had about 10 or 15 balls in which put me half way in to the first game this thing came alive and started to over react. Moved deeper 2 boards and it pushed through the puddle out to the hang and labored to turn up. Figured it was time to change something as we were headed to the 10th. Moved 4 boards more left and stood at 42, moved target to the 40' marker from the third arrow, and changed hand position to work the inside of the ball. I didn't know IF it would work with the 4x4x4 drill but figured I had to try. This also would hopefully get me off the hang if I was wide since I'm less apt to miss out targeting 40'. Drilled all three in the 10th for a whopping 180, but liked my look. High on our par was only 210 first game. Started game two with the front 6 ,and go bucket (didn't hit it) spare, 10 pin spare and punch for 265. Next high game was 207. last game, start with front 5, go 9 pin, spare, strike, 9 pin, spare and punch for 258. Next high was 210. Not huge scores but it was a 7 off that 180 start and I had room no one else was close to seeing. Didn't get a chance to see all of the score sheets but of the ones I did, next closest was about 650. Ball hits hard and playing in with this layout, If I missed in a pinch it didn't dive left off the end of the pattern but flushed up. Noticed as others have it keeps pins low and sends scouts cross lane on numerous shots. I'm sure others will report in from Nationals once they get it and throw it out there but since I bowl with Rockteshel next Friday and Saturday there you'll have a couple reports for sure. One from a Roto Staffer and one from a house hack who can bowl pretty decent at times.
theiceman
Post by: SenorRotoGrip on March 13, 2009, 11:10:23 AM
On the house shot, the Rogue sat nicely on the oil line and hit hard. When I sent it to the dry, early, the ball burned off a little, but did not over react off the breakpoint. This allows a little miss to the right without the ball crashing the nose for a split, but instead maybe leaving a 10 pin.
The Rogue hybrid cover at 4000 abralon gives a nice reaction out of the box. The Rogue will fit into anyone's arsenal as either a first ball or a go to ball. Add a Cell, and a Pearl Cell for a great 3 ball arsenal
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Post by: BrandonR on March 14, 2009, 03:50:14 PM
Here is a pic of the layout... (https://www.ballreviews.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh228%2FCalimon08%2FNewArsenal003.jpg&hash=9366921251e81ccf1b6211c484268a15e39d4b9a)
Surface: Box 4000 Abralon
Layout: 5x5 Pin above bridge
What I Wanted: ....wanted a this ball to turn the corner when my Cell was not enough or the Cell Pearl was too much off the spot.
What I Got: Good length w/ that backend off the spot that fit in between my Cell and Cell Pearl.
Many people of the people that asked me what in the world I was throwing couldnt believe that it was another Roto Grip ball. People around here had seen both the Cell and Pearl in action, now cant wait to get their hands on this one!
Hank & Roger....Kudos! Kudos! Kudos!
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Post by: olererack on March 15, 2009, 06:44:57 AM
The Rogue Cell is a great complement to the Solid Cell and Cell Pearl .
Making a combination of the two =Hybrid
My Slogan is a 1-2-3 punch or a Triple in your bowling bag
The Rogue Cell utilizes the latest generation of the Cytoplasmic XL Hybrid Reactive cover stock series
With an blend of unique additives
The Cytoplasmic XL hybrid reactive cover stock is rated as the highest friction to lane values ever produced by Roto Grip.
The blend of solid and pearl cover stock has generated an strong and consistent hook from release to impact.
The energy hitting power comes from the highly successful, performance proven Nucleus core.
The Hybrid Rogue goes through the heads clean due to Factory Finish of 4000 Abralon the reaction is smooth and strong off the break point .
Which Promotes Excellent Carry.
On Hooking heads if the Rogue ball burns up too early,
Shined it’s become more forgiven which will allow you to miss right without the early burn (User Friendly )
Which allows the highest percentage of pin fall
The Rogue Coverstock is also User Friendly and can be tweaked with the same result as the original Solid Cell,
A must Buy to complete your tool kit
RG Average: 2.52 (Medium Low) on a scale of 2.43-2.8 Very low-High Break Point
RG Differential: .048 (Medium) on a scale of .000-.080 Low-High Flare
Asymmetrical core powered the original Cell
Coverstock: Cytoplasmic XL Hybrid Reactive
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Post by: big hank j on March 15, 2009, 10:36:25 PM
I drilled this ball with 5" x 4" with pin over fingers. This put MB 1.5 right of the thumb. I wanted to be able to use this ball here at home without touching the surface. weight hole 5" over. So far in league play, 725 and 738 with high of 258. I am very impressed with the way I can get this ball thru the heads. We use the track alot but the back end for me in this layout was smooth and did not jerk. I was very surprised how smooth this ball is in the friction part of the lane without a big hard jerk, which this layout usually brings. My favorite and first balls to use are the Cell Pearls but with a little more oil this will be a great alternative. I love this ball.
Hank Jordan
Roto Grip Amateur Staff
Post by: rotogrip300 on March 15, 2009, 11:28:04 PM
Post by: Onebigtwister on March 16, 2009, 11:41:25 AM
DRILLING: 4x4 with 2â€buffer, 1 1/8†hole on VAL 2†below PAP.
SURFACE: box finish
After drilling this beauty I was a little disappointed at first, all because there was not enough oil around here for this strong of drilling on the new Rogue. My recommendation is not to drill this ball with the pin closer then 5†Unless you bowl on an absolute flood.
THS- I really didn’t get the best read in league with this, starting league playing between 4-5 arrow just didn’t seem right, but I did it anyway. The reaction I got was the strongest mid-lane read I have seen yet from the Cell line, but just enough pop on the back for it to strike. I only got about 15 frames before I had to switch to my Pearl Cell it was starting to burn up so I figured I would switch before losing my set. The Cell Pearl matches up really well to the new Rogue.
USBC Open- I bowled a tournament that put this pattern down, it was 8 games across the house (24lanes). Since we were only bowling 1 game then moving to a new pair, each pair play different, because of the different play and lack of team break down strategy. The Rogue gave me the most consistent look even though each pair was different. On this pattern the ball work relatively good playing out, but as so as I had to migrate toward the middle of the lane it went too far before making its move. So as I had to move in I switch to my regular Cell (1000 abrolon) and was the magic guess (200 over for my last 3 games).
In closing I think the Rogue is my favorite Cell as of yet, it clears the heads like the pearl, but still reads the mids well with strong continuous back-end.If you have any further questions you can reach me a strike2win@hotmail.com
I will be drilling my second Rogue this week, and will give a Review of that after some play with it. Thanks!
Jacob Bedard
Roto Grip Staff
Post by: PrecisionRotoGuy on March 18, 2009, 01:34:13 PM
I have to say, I had high expectations for the Rogue Cell and amazingly this ball has surpassed them. I expected that what I had heard was true, that it would have a breakpoint shape and length between the 2 prior Cell balls with a little more overall reaction (at the very least on house patterns) than both, but this ball has opened up the lane for me like nothing else I have ever thrown. In my scratch league they lay out a very over/under pattern and pretty much nobody can get left on it because there is such a massive flood in the middle- but now I can. I’ve hardly lost a match play point in that league the few weeks I’ve thrown it. Quite frankly, it feels like cheating, much like the Cell did when it was new- but that much more. Furthermore, it wants to create an ideal ball reaction on every condition I’ve thrown it. If I back out of it I can still throw it on burnt heads and it still wants to clear the front, roll in the midlane, pop on the back and continue for the rack. There is not a better value on the market. Plus the ball looks dreamy too. From a pro shop perspective, this ball is gonna move too. I got two early from Roto Grip’s pre release program- one lasted 10 minutes and the other lasted an hour and a half. I didn’t even try to sell them. Bowlers walked in and just asked for it the second they saw it. It’ll be nice to have a shot in the arm from a bowling ball (in terms of performance and sales) in March. How often does that happen?
Jason Hoff
Area 300 Pro Shop
Post by: IrishMike837 on March 18, 2009, 06:56:14 PM
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Post by: Roto Herb on March 18, 2009, 09:36:30 PM
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Post by: Bwinter5800 on March 19, 2009, 06:51:49 PM
Post by: RonCase823 on March 19, 2009, 11:56:05 PM
I drilled this ball very strong with the pin under my ring finger and MB in a strong position which put the CG positive and in the thumb weight quadrant. Then we put a hole just right of my thumb hole pitched away from thumb and brought the weight to 7/8 side and 0 finger, thumb.
This ball is very strong. I’ve used it on several patterns. On a drier house shot if I hit the dry too soon it wants to jump hard. However, if I kept it in the oil I could open the lane way up and keep moving left and it would always come back. On the oilier Kegal and PBA shots it works great because it is so strong. This is a great ball for oil or to just stand left and throw it out. It reads the mid lane very good and it continues on the back end very well. Only fault is it is not the ball for the driest of lanes. Leave those lanes for the Mars.
Ron Case - RotoGrip Staff
Post by: Mikelj on March 20, 2009, 08:10:26 AM
The Rogue reacted as expected. This ball has a more angular move to the pocket than the Cell and starts in the mid lane sooner than the Cell Pearl. The hitting power and the backend reaction are as expected strong and continuous. Because of my slower ball speed, I will need some head oil so the ball doesn't burn up its energy too early.
I like the versatility of this offering. I was able to score equally as well when playing on a 36’ condition and swinging the ball or on a 42’ shot and going directly down the oil line.
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Roto Grip Advisory Staff
Post by: LarryH on March 21, 2009, 05:42:16 PM
Post by: bucko the bowler on March 21, 2009, 09:53:11 PM
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Post by: cmsubowler on March 23, 2009, 01:57:33 PM
I have used both of the ones I have drilled up on 3 different lane surfaces and haven't put them down since I got them. I am a medium rev with medium speed player who enjoys playing different parts of the lane whenever possible. I map out all of my equipment using the Dual Angle Layout technique and the first one is drilled with a 65 degree initial angle and 4.75" ping distance and 45 degree VAL angle, and a weight hole in the lower thumb quadrant strong middlane roll position. Box surface on this one with a slight glaze. Very clean through the front with very agressive arc at the end of the pattern. The more I let the ball do what it wants to do(which is HOOOOOOOKKKK!!!!) the better it reacts. I have not had a problem with this ball recovering off of the break point even on a very deep inside line.
The second Rogue I have drilled up is 80 degree initial angle and 6.25" pin to PAP distance with a 60 degree VAL angle, Weight hole below thumb adjacent thumb line. This ball was drilled Specifically for the Cheetah pattern and houses with lots of friction to the outside. Again clean through the front half with a strong controlled arc on the back end part of the lane and what a monster when it hits. Example: I know my ball speed was up and I know what the machines look like out back but I threw a pin over the middle and onto the pin deck of the lane next to me. Could have been a coincedence and a pin just fell out of the other rack but the timing was too perfect. I should have asked the mechanic to count them but didn't. All I gotta say is wow.
In my opinion the best high end performance ball on the market.
Post by: pin-chaser on March 24, 2009, 11:40:02 AM
Layout: 5x3
Pin: Above Ring
Weight Hole: in P3 location 1" x 1.5" deep
Surface: Box
First Impression: 03/24/09
I tossed the ball in practice 4 or 5 shots on a medium volume condition during warm up last night. The ball just looks agressive in my hand and I expected this ball to simply take off. Especially because I did not intend to use this ball at this house. I intended to use it in a large volume house once the pattern has broken down midway through the set.
However I was suprized as the ball went down the lane and did not jump midway... got to the end of the pattern and made a move toward the pocket. Hmmm.. Ok... lets hit this ball a bit up the back... and the ball goes through the pattern and jumps harder off the backend. OK, now lets get some tilt and see how this ball reacts... again through the pattern just fine and when it find the back end the ball jumps hard toward the pocket and continues through the pins. Ok... I throw one more shot with it, jump left of everyone to catch a fist full and ball does now read the midlanes and hooks way too much. Knowing this house I know I can not use this ball it simply reads the drier and this house breaks down very fast (especially this week with both teams having players that play the same part of the lane.)
After league was over, I took it out again and jumped inside, 22 to 10-8 and the ball really came alive. It has a strange way to cary... not like other balls. Its kind of like a sponge where it sucks the pins into the pit instead of throwing them all over the place. And it rolls differently going down the lane... kind of like a snow tire in the snow but yet in gets angular in the back end. I am looking forward to seeing how it reacts tomorrow night. I will follow up after.
Post by: rrbowler on March 25, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
1st - 5X3 w/ 2" pin buf pin above ring finger
2nd - 4X4 pin below ring finger
The first Rogue I polised with storm high polish and this ball clesrs the heads with ease and mildy reads the mids but has a strong snap to the pocket with a very hard hit.
THe second Rogue left box finish, this ball amazingly clears the heads for me with ease reads the mids a little quicker but still has a very strong arc to the pocket and a devasting hit at the pins.Both balls so far have been very easy to control in the three centers that I bowl in. THe first center is on burnt out wood. The second center is on Bruswick overlay and the the third center is on brunswick synthetics.Will be posting more as I try different layouts and bowl in some tournaments. Thanks
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Post by: phall612 on March 26, 2009, 09:24:44 PM
14lb. Right Handed 17-19 mph cranker.
I have 2 of the original Cells 1 pin over goes long and strong backend
other pin under, earlier roll and strong cont. arch.
and a Pearl 5 x 3 1/2 pin up 3" to the right of the ring finger.
Great distance and snap.
Drilled the Rogue to be in between the Pearl and the more agressive Cell.
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Bowled on wood lanes 1 st night in shadow ball. Unable to get a good feel due to the fact of bowling on lanes 1 - 2 and could not get far enough left with my feet. The few that I did throw I played 23-25 out to 12 (fresh shot) and the ball reved. and absolutely blew the rack.
Bowled on again same, open bowling, with room to move. Throw the most aggresive balls that I have. The Cell and the Hole Pounder Solid both drilled aggressive. I went from playing 25 with my feet ball 17 out to 5 all three about the same. Reved strong smooth arch.
Moved left 5 boards 20 to 7 the Cell is not coming as strong but still making the pocket. HP and Rogue still have more to give.
Move in front of the ball return lofting the left gutter out to 10.
Rogue still enough to come strong and blow the rack HP not quite enough to get to the pocket.
More than I expected but I am happy.
So in closing another winner for Roto Grip.
Post by: Tess7654 on March 29, 2009, 09:44:19 PM
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Post by: Craig LeMond on March 31, 2009, 02:54:02 PM
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Post by: PaulMc on March 31, 2009, 09:01:57 PM
Not only does the ball look like a cross of the two, it also fits in between the two in the reaction. It gets through the heads easier than my Cell but not near as long as the Pearl, picks up a good, heavy mid-lane roll like the Cell, then finishes on the back end in between the two (it is much smoother on the back-end than the Pearl but finishes harder than my Cell).
On house shots the ball has been awesome. Last night in league, I shot 733 with two awful shots that left splits. It took me about five frames to get lined up the first game but after that I only lost three hits. One was a swishing 10 (probably a bad rack), a six pin as the shot broke down, and a weak 7 on a weak shot. Every other shot in the pocket struck. The ball really reacts good in the oil as I am able to move further inside the oil line than usual and avoid the overreacting dry.
I also used the ball in a six gamer on a house shot a couple of weeks ago. Since it was a new ball, I tried throwing other stuff first (I always like throwing new stuff but get in trouble with them). I dug myself a deep hole after three games with the old stuff, switched to the Cell Rogue and shot 300, 24+ and 23+ to win a high game and place in other side pots. Should have switched earlier!
Post by: thefish on April 01, 2009, 10:13:28 AM
Post by: Monster Stitch on April 01, 2009, 05:58:57 PM
2.86 top
3 inch pin
Layout:
Pin over ring, MB 1-1/2 right of thumb, Pin 5-1/2 from PAP, 60 degree pin angle, MB 4-5/8 from PAP, 40 Degree Val Angle
Pic: http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roguer.jpg
The Rogue is a great fit between the Original Cell and Cell Pearl. It's very clean through the front part of the lane, strong in the midlane and has an unbelievable continuous arc on the backend. I've only tried it out with the out of box finish but when i clenaed it with a white scotch brite pad and Clean N Dull the surface smoothed out a bit.
Brunswick 20 year old HPL Synthetics, oiled 38 feet, med/heavy in the middle, 5 to 5 with a med volume outside. When i threw my HyRoad the ball would just sail unless i played up the 1 to 3 board with a softer hand. Anything inside skided and left the rail. I pulled out the ROGUE and i had area from the track out to 5. Ball rolled strong down lane and made a nice turn on the backend. I tried an up the back release and it responded well and also got in and gave it tilt and it reacted well also. I can say this ball is versatile. This ball is a great compliment to my Virtual Gravity.
The big test will be at Nationals in Las Vegas.
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Post by: ODriscoll on April 03, 2009, 11:25:57 PM
To revisit the Cell. Again if you haven't thrown one your missing out. The Cell core creates a shape and predictability no other balls have matched. For tougher patterns its hard to find a better look or success than the Cell. No other ball has been able to maintain the differential as long as the cell.
The 3rd installment of the cell series and possibly the most versatile. I've drill all 3 the same with a modified RICO layout. I didn’t think there would be much different from the first 2 but I was wrong. While the original Cell is by far the earliest of the series and the Pearl Cell is the longest. The Rogue fits easily in between. The Rogue provides great overall control of the lane with its Hybrid coverstock. Definitely not suited for drier patterns but easily adjust with a little polish.
The way I see it this makes lane play a little easier.
Where do you want to attack the lanes.
Heads: Cell
Mids: Rogue
Backend: Cell Pearl
The Rogue Cell could be this years best stimulus package!
Kelly O'Driscoll
Roto Grip Staff
Post by: ShermDawg on April 07, 2009, 04:51:39 PM
Revrate: 475 - 500 RPM
The Layout:
4 1/2 x 3 1/2 (Pin above ring finger with the MB two 1.5 inches out from thumb). There is a 3/4 inch balance hole, 2 inches deep, on the axis.
The Motion:
This ball is very smooth. It reads the transition in wet dry very evenly. With the pin being a little higher, it gets through the heads and goes a little further before the initial reaction starts up. Going through the pin deck it really makes the pins dance around. Lighter pocket hits seem to be the best for the Rogue because of its overall continuation.
The reaction was a little too strong up front with the box finish on a THS, so a coat of Factory Finish polish was applied. This made the ball glide through the heads even further. It still grabbed sooner and was not as sharp off the break as the Cell Pearl, with a similar layout. This ball starts its move a few feet sooner than the pearl, and has a smoother overall motion. The combination of the Pearl and Solid coverstock really puts a perfect fit to compliment the Cell and Cell pearl.
An update to the review will follow with more in depth analysis of ball reaction and motion on PBA/Sport patterns.
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Post by: RotoPop on April 07, 2009, 05:27:38 PM
Although the original Cell might pick up the lane a bit earlier, the Rogue is much the stronger on the lanes the last 10 feet. It is a versatile piece in that it gets some length but the hitting power of this monster is something to see. It carry's light hits, pocket hits and high flush with equal effectiveness. I find myself putting it away for most THS shots simply because of the horsepower. The Pearl or the original Cell handle medium oil a bit easier. This ball however has a place in everyones bag. This ball is NOT in between the Cell and Cell Pearl. This ball is stronger by far.
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Post by: columbiactionmax on April 16, 2009, 03:34:29 PM
Pin at 1:00
CG Under
MB near VAL
This ball is amazing. The mid lane roll on this ball is awesome. It clears the heads very easy, reads the mid-lane and moves in the back. It truly is a hybrid. The biggest strength of this ball is how it reads the mid-lane and how it moves in the back. With these strengths, it's very predictable and gives you some room for error (depends on the lanes). Another strength with this ball is the ability to play in heavier volumes of oil to lighter volumes of oil - All due to the hybrid coverstock.
I've played straight up with this ball and it has a sick move to the pocket. I stood on 38 and tossed it to 15 and break at 5 and this ball still a lot of energy to shred the rack in pieces. I didn't experience any over/under with this ball. The ball is friendly to hand and speed adjustments. The Hybrid Coverstocks is the future.
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Hammer Emerald Vibe (Pin Under Ring/CG out/Balance Hole)
Brunswick Fury (Pin Right/CG Under Ring) - Sold
Brunswick Fury Pearl (Pin Over Ring/CG Under Ring)
Brunswick T-Zone (Spare Ball)
Columbia Resurgence (Pin Right/CG Out)
Columbia Action Max (Pin Right/CG Out)
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Ebonite The One (Right Right/MB near VAL) - Gave it away
Storm Virtual Gravity (Pin Up Inbetween Bridge/CG Out)
Roto Grip Rogue Cell (Pin right of ring, MB near thumb)
Post by: clt2244 on April 21, 2009, 05:47:01 AM
Likes: Ball is diverse and can be thrown on anything, hits harder than anything out there
Dislikes: none what so ever
for the record, ive thrown alot of stuff out there, including the regular cell, this has to be one of the best combination of coverstocks and weight blocks out there, they seem to just be made for each other, the hybird coverstock works great with the Nucleus core, this ball can play any part of the lane on virtually any condition, have heavy oil, take the surface down and watch it destroy the shot, got dry lanes, shine this ball up and watch it move on the back end and be able to play medium shots with it, this ball suites bowlers of all styles and can be used anywhere, its a must have for anybody's bag, and this ball hits harder than anything out there, i almost left a pocket 7-9-10 with it, it hits that hard, Roto Grip out did themselves on this one.
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Post by: wbltim on April 24, 2009, 08:38:36 PM
On the advice of my pro shop guy, I had this drilled with a 10:30 layout, which seemed a little more dramatic than any layout I have used before. I am pretty much a stroker/tweener and I prefer to play up and in. My idea was to get something that would be useable on heavy oil, and since I am migrating to 15 lb. equipment, this would be my first 15 lb. heavy oil ball. I was kind of hedging, and so instead of going with a regular Cell, went with the Rogue, figuring it would be a little more versatile.
The first set on league nite I shot 676. In a tournament last weekend, I averaged about 228 over 7 games, including a 290 in the first game of the tournament! I average about 207 in league.
The ball seemed to handle the oilier pairs with ease. You can almost see the ball grab midlane, then begin a very heavy roll to the pocket. It was punishing through the pin deck, with most light hits driving the five pin into the seven pin with authority. Seemed to carry everything there were very few flat or weak tens. I would say that I did have a little trouble on drier pairs, and probably should have swiched balls, but I was able to stay in it with some more significant moves to the left. All in all, it seems like this ball will accomplish what I want it to do.
Very pleased! Will update review with other comments on conditions and durability.
Arsenal:
Rogue Cell
Horizon Solid
Pluto
Black Widow Pearl
SD-73 (16 lbs.)
Elite Black Label (16 lbs.)
Post by: rotoguy838 on April 27, 2009, 09:17:27 PM
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Post by: StoneColdski on May 27, 2009, 12:13:36 PM
The complete CELL line is by far the Most Versatile and COMPLETE 1-2-3 punch out today!!
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Post by: Roto-Mat on June 05, 2009, 12:17:33 AM
PAP: 5.75†Over .25†Up
Average Speed: 18.5 MPH
RPM’s: 400+
Ball(s) Stats:
“Continuous†Rouge Cell
(Layed Out Using Roto-Grips “4x3†in their drilling chart)
Weight Hole: On PAP
Personal Favorite Surface Condition: OOB
“Trick Layout†Rouge Cell
Pin Location: 6" from PAP WAY ABOVE Ring Finger
Mass Bias Location: 45 Degrees (Above and Right of Thumb)
Weight Hole: 3.5" Over 1" Up
Personal Favorite Surface Condition: Highly Polished or White Scotch Brite
Review:
Conditions I Would Consider Using The Ball On:
Heavy or Medium/Heavy Patterns
Heavy or Medium/Heavy Volumed Patterns
Clean To Slightly Carried Down Backends
Heavy Volumed House Shots
For me, the Rogue Cell is a completely different ball than any other ball that I have thrown. As an aggressive ball, it is very coverstock tunable and layout friendly. However, because of its aggressiveness it can be deceiving. With everything being equal, the Rouge Cell is the most aggressive of all the Cells, however I have found on several different patterns (besides heavy/long patterns) that either the Cell Pearl or original Cell will actually out hook the Rogue Cell based on early and undetectable energy burn. Sometimes this can be a good thing though, as it gives you more control over the break point...... Like the other Cells, this ball is very continuous, even if it runs into early burn. I cant think of one time where any of my Cells have ever flat out rolled out.
“Continuous†Rouge Cell
This is the most continuous and most hooking ball I have ever punched out. It just plain hooks. With this ball it reminds me of a urethane ball on steroids, without the super early burn (as long as you have head oil). I tried polishing it and used it on a few patterns, but it seemed to really overlap my original Cell so I returned it to OOB condition and am able to use it on longer/heavier patterns without having to worry about it skipping through the breakpoint. However, on longer patterns with medium volume I found the original Cell in OOB condition to be a better match up. Bottom line is this: If you already have an original Cell and you are looking to get a Rouge Cell, don't be afraid to drill one up similar and tweak the coverstock so they compliment each other and you wont be shut out on any condition.
“Trick Layout†Rouge Cell
Again, this is named after the Tommy Jones layout. I find this layout extremely versatile for higher rev players. Comparing this ball to the others in the Cell line, I find it to kind of a blend of the two. With the high gloss polish that I applied to it, it clears the heads like the Cell Pearl, but the cover helps smooth the reaction out close to the original Cell. On average (and depending on the condition), this ball is about 3-5 boards stronger than the original Cell and 3-5' sooner than the Cell Pearl.
My bottom line is this. This ball is strong. REALLY strong. If you are not using the right layout or using it on the right condition, it probably wont work and one of the other Cells will probably work better. BUT when the stars align and you match up with this very tunable and versatile beast .... LOOK OUT!!
Conditions that I would not consider using these balls on:
Short Pattern
Low Volume Patterns
Beat Up Synthetic/Wood Lanes (High and early friction)
Roto-Grip Balls Up or Down:
Ball Up In Reaction: Stronger/Earlier Drilled Rouge Cell or a Late 90s/Early 2000's Particle Ball
Ball Down In Reaction: Cell or Cell Pearl
Thank you for your time in reading this review. I hope that you have found it to be helpful. If you have any questions please feel free to PM me and I will try to help you as much as I can.
Thanks!
Mat Henning
Roto-Grip Staffer
Champions Bowling Services
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Post by: pbacanuck on June 05, 2009, 04:48:01 PM
The Original Cell might be the best ball I have ever owned. Usually the more aggressive a ball is, the less forgiving it is.The Cell hooks, and it hits, but it still seems to find the pocket I when I have the occasional bad release. The nature of the ball is to be more even arcing and it does need oil to clear the heads
If there is not enough head oil or you need a ball to cover a lot of boards late then the Cell Pearl is the ball to go to. It gets through the heads cleaner and hooks like crazy on the back end. I find the Cell Pearl a bit more condition specific and not as forgiving as the Cell. It hooks alot harder on dry boards and can squirt a bit on carry down.
That's where the Rogue Cell comes in handy. It gets through the heads cleaner than the Cell and has a more angular motion like the Pearl, but isn't effected as much by carry down. It has a strong back end without the over/under you can get from the Pearl.
With the Cell, the Cell Pearl and now the Rogue Cell, Roto Grip has come up with three balls that compliment each other perfectly.
Post by: rotomike on June 07, 2009, 03:08:32 PM
I put the pin up @ 4 ½ from my pap with the mb next to my thumb. The balance hole was placed on my val on the midline of the grip.
My intent with this Rogue was to have a ball with which I could really open up the lane. WOW does it ever! I have a Cell Solid with the same layout and It sometimes is a bit too even off of the breakpoint.
The Rogue Cell’s cover is the strongest match for the Nucleus core yet. The hybrid cover seems to bring out the strongest aspects of the core. You can really see the differential working as the ball goes through motion. Where other strong drilled asymmetric balls have a tendency to stand up in the backend this just keeps on driving.
Surface changes: After using the ball in box condition I took the cover down to 2000 abralon to take some of the sharpness off of the break point. It worked as expected while still keeping up the continuation through the pins. I used this ball during my 7am singles at the USBC Open shooting 636 and doubling up on my brackets. $$$
Rogue Cell #2
I wanted to try something different so I laid the ball out pin down @ 6 inches from my pap with a strong drill angle. Mb was placed between my thumb hole and my val. I placed the balance hole low on my val.
What I got was a medium strong midlane read with even continuation off of the spot and awesome carry. I was struggling on the PBAX Earl pattern until I drilled this ball. The final three weeks of the Earl pattern I averaged over 225.
My favorite part of the Rogue Cell is the pin action. I really enjoy watching the pins fly around the deck with reckless abandon.
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Kingdom member for life
Post by: ajensen on June 07, 2009, 11:21:55 PM
The first one is a 5x3 pin above fingers, my favorite drill pattern.
The second is a 4 3/4 x 4 3/4 with pin down, cg and Mb kicked out,"Rev Lev".
I'm not sure how many times I've been asked, " Are you a registered pin offender". Since purchasing this ball I can say, " YES I AM" !!!!
Pin below works great on fresh oil.
Pin above works good for when the lane is hooking to much in the front part of the lane(the heads are gone).
A Brilliant add on to the arsenal.
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Roto Grip Staffer
Post by: StrikeXXMaster on June 26, 2009, 08:33:13 AM
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Post by: Bigmike on July 22, 2009, 05:22:14 PM
Lay Out: 4.5" from PAP at 70* PAP angle and 50* VAL angle. The pin ended up above my ring finger. There is no weight hole.
Surface: I have used it box and loved it just cleaning it and touching it up with 4000abr by hand. I am ready to start and experiment with surfaces on it.
Purpose: I wanted a strong ball to compliment my Virtual Gravity. Sometimes my VG can be flat on the back when the condition gets drier up front. The Rogue was meant to be able to "ball" down to without having to give up the good look on the backend.
Lane condition Observations: I have thrown this at the USBC Nationals, on Scorpion on Pro-Anvilane in a PBA regional, on Kegel's Middle road pattern, and our house shot. Each time, the good crisp back end of this ball has stood out. I could go away from the pocket at times and the Rogue would just roll up and crush the pins. At times this ball appeared to be stronger than the Virtual Gravity especially with the way it held energy and carried. When the pattern has been shorter, I have bagged it because I have some other options that keep energy longer.
Final thoughts: The Rogue is one of those balls that Cell solid lovers will go nuts over. It is very defined on the back compared to the rollier solid Cell look. This is the ball that players who thought the Cell didn't get the corner unless the backs were clean, will drill just to do that.
It is hard to believe Roto Grip could improve on the original Cell, but the Rogue is just that: a capable and viable upgrade to anyones arsenal.
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Post by: rotogrip_rick on December 03, 2009, 05:32:38 PM
A 45x4x40 dual angle, longer in length then Rogue #3 I drilled for Nationals, but a less of an overreaction on really wet/dry lanes and wood lanes, or Guardian lanes. This one fits better into my latest bag combo of a 4x4 pin up Mutant, this Rogue, Reign, and Natural, Grand Illusion, and 3 1/2 x 3 1/2 pin down Mutant. This coverstock has grown on me recently. Would like to see this coverstock on Mutant Cell core... (HINT to Roger and Hank..)
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Post by: ajensen on February 09, 2010, 12:04:19 AM
The second game I shot 245 with a Cell Pearl.
Then the third game I shot 249 throwing a Nomad Pearl.
Using all three for me has given me a good predictable arsenal of balls for league and typical house shots in general.
The Rogue Cell has a 5x3 with pin above fingers and a good size hole 5 5/8 over from center of grip.
The Pearl Cell has the pin below with a small hole at 5 5/8 from center of grip through the cg.
And the Nomad Pearl has a 5x3 with a hole, taking the side wieght to negative 3/8.
I struck out to win series by a stick. Shooting 751 to 750.
Pretty Awesome!
Go Roto Grip!
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Post by: rotogrip_rick on February 09, 2010, 11:16:42 AM
Layout: 50 x 2 1/2 x 40
PAP: 3 5/8 right and 1/16 up
Surface for ball test 4000 and hand polished
Weight hole: on axis
I expected to see the ball hold back and have an over/under look on 41ft THS, but to my surprise, I was real smooth from the front to the mid lane and a little energy kick in the back end. With this ball, I was able to play a tighter line in side. I tried it on fresh and it held quite well, and used it on some heavier play lanes. It worked great on both fresh and heavy used lanes. I hope this information provides a better in site into the versatility of this bowing ball.
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Post by: Infinity13 on January 07, 2011, 10:53:19 AM
I got my very first Rogue Cell when I was just a senior in High School. It worked so well on the High School shots that now that it is my first year in college bowling at Wright State University, I went out and bought a brand new one for this season. So far it has almost always been the first ball out of my bag at our tournaments. I have mine drilled to have a long arc shape which works wonders on long oil patterns. Overall, this is a great ball to have in your arsenal weather you are a competitive bowler or just starting out.
Post by: brandonraider on January 15, 2011, 12:52:14 AM
LANE CONDITION
Length:44 ft
Volume:N/A
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Shark (pba pattern)
COMMENTS
Likes: gets the perfect amount of ditance. rolls smooth, hits hard, love the reaction because it doesnt hook too much. best ball i have ever owned
Dislikes:
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Post by: pbaexp12 on January 25, 2011, 01:32:41 PM
LANE CONDITION
Length: 39'
Volume: medium
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):
COMMENTS
Likes: The Rogue Cell is an awesome ball. I just got mine on a trade here on ball reviews and it's a ball that will be my new benchmark ball. The coloring on it is incredible and looks great going down the lane and even better after it hits the pins hard for a strike! I found that the length was good enough to get through the heads easy and still have that normal cell backend that everyone expects from this ball line. My favorite thing about this ball is the cover. It has the hybrid blend of the cytoplasmic xl cover that is currently used on the mutant cell and the mutant cell pearl balls. This cover stock was well before it's time and seems to still have more time left in it. I had some great first games with the rogue and can't wait until the summer for the pba experience league to start, this will be my go to ball.
Dislikes: None this ball has filled a large gap in my arsenal and makes me look good in the process. great ball roto!
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Post by: stc067 on February 27, 2011, 04:43:42 PM
LANE CONDITION
Length:40'
Volume:Heavy
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS
COMMENTS
Likes:The Rogue Cell is my heavy oil ball, I keep it finished at 1500 abralon, and this produces an early roll, and a smooth soft arcing motion to the pocket. Excellent heavy oil ball.
Dislikes: None, the ball does exactly what I bought it for.
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Post by: ragu74 on February 27, 2011, 10:35:56 PM
LANE CONDITION
Length:40 ft
Volume:med
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS
COMMENTS
Layout 4.5in Pin to PAP Cg slightly to the right of center MB right of thumb 4in to PAP xhole in thumb VAL.
4000 abralon.
This ball is exactly what Roto Grip says it fits in between the Cell and Cell Pearl. The Rogue is very clean through the front, reads the midlane well, with a strong continuous arc in the backend. The Rogue gets further down the lane than the Cell because of the hybrid cover and has a bit more of a angular move to the pocket than the Cell. When this ball hits the pocket nothing is left standing most of the time. Its still the hardest hitting ball I have in my arsenal. Good job RG!!!
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Post by: stopncrank on October 28, 2011, 03:04:41 PM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length: 2-3"
Starting Top Weight: n/a
Ball Weight: 15
DRILL PATTERN
Pin to PAP: 5", Pin below Middle finger
CG to PAP: 3"
X Hole (if there is one): None
BOWLER STYLE
Rev Rate: 410-425 rpm
Ball Speed:15.5-16 Mph
PAP/Track: 3 1/2" straight across, no up or down.
SURFACE PREP
Grit: 1500, per Storm's website.
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Polished with Storm Reacta-Shine
LANE CONDITION
Length:42'
Volume:1-Med/Hvy, 1-Medium
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS
BALL REACTION
Length:7
Back End: 9
Overall Hook: 8
Midlane Read: 8.5
Breakpoint Shape: Very continuous
COMMENTS
Likes: Very clean up front, nice movement on the backend. Really like the torque the core creates, very nice match with the cover that makes this ball strong but usuable on a couple of different patterns.
Dislikes: Wether a product of drilling or surface, for whatever reason once I get inside of 20 with this piece I tend to get into 2-8-10 or 4 pin land.
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COMMENTS:
I got this ball from a friend who wasnt getting much use out of it, glad I did now. Even though its a older piece, He rarely used it so it was in really good shape. First and foremost, I must say this is one of if not the best looking bowling balls I've ever seen. Looks very nice rolling down the lanes.
Ok now to the important stuff. I needed and intended for this ball to fit in between a Virtual Gravity which is my oiler, and a T-road Solid which was my next strongest ball. There was just too big a gap in between those two, and the Rogue accomplished the task to a tee. When the VG starts checking early, the Rogues gives me a much cleaner look, and a good recovery as well.
This ball's core is very strong, i'm getting well over 5" of flare with it. I will say this, if you like to hook the ball this will be the ball for you! It can cover some real estate in a hurry.
This ball for me with this surface and layout is better suited on a little bit heavier house patterns. Of the two house patterns I've used it on, I liked the heavier pattern much better-it was a bit too much ball for the medium shot for me.
The biggest thing I see that I like from this ball is that while it is very strong, it is controllable strong if that makes sense. Also, I must say it is one of the more readable balls that I've thrown, most of the upper end stuff I've used in the past tended to be very over/under, as well as condition specific, the Rogue tends to be a little more forgiving than most other upper end stuff I've used.
All in all this ball is a great addition for me, I'm glad I have it and I think that because of this ball I will seek more Roto Grip pieces in the future.
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Post by: tommyboy74 on July 28, 2012, 10:36:23 PM
Length: 43 ft AMF HPL
Volume: Medium-Heavy
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS
COMMENTS
Likes: Clean through the heads, predictable shape, carry power
Dislikes: None
I picked up a used Rogue Cell back in June, and for the price, it couldn't be beat. Even though I have a Defiant and a 919C, I had been wanting to have a ball to go down to once the Defiant starts to leave flat 10s or lose some of its shape. That is where the Rogue Cell comes in.
I used the same stacked 5x3x1 layout as my Defiant, with the exception of placing the pin above the ring finger instead of below. All I can say is that this is one outstanding compliment and has actually become my favorite ball to start with.
The best thing about the Rogue Cell (besides how it looks) is how controllable it is. On heavier patterns, it allows me to open the lane up a bit but keep a controlled look. It is a bit more angular than the Defiant, but handles the carrydown better. Also, it allows me to open up the lane a little more at the same time.
Other things that I really like is how well the ball takes surface changes. I decided to use 2000 AB and that is the sweet spot for me. Predictability is outstanding and it's very easy to read what the ball will do.
Since buying this ball in June, the lowest game with it is a 170. Everything else has been around or above 200. It just flat out works on all of the patterns I have used it on.
Finally, the carry power is outstanding. The core and hybrid cover are a perfect match for each other and rarely have I seen the ball die out. The Rogue Cell is one of the hardest hitting balls that I have thrown to date.
The combination of the core, cover, hitting power, and predictability make this an outstanding addition to my arsenal. If you can find one used (the Rogue Cell is a little tougher to find), it will not disappoint you.