Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
This entry-mid price ball is propelled by the Orbitertm core. The High RG/Low Differential core has proven to be far superior in performance than the competition by giving you dependable mid-lane read along with consistent backend reaction shot after shot on those medium to lighter patterns.
Traction is the key and Sure Grip IItm solid coverstock once again is the finishing touch on the Saturntm. This milder blend solid reactive gives you smoother transition from the oil to the dry for increased control and predictability. It can also be easily adjusted with the use of polishes and scotch-brite pads.
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Specifications
Factory Finish 800- Machine Sanded
Track Flare Potential 2-3 Inches
Lane Condition Light - Medium Oil
Cover Stock Sure Grip IItm Solid Reactive
Weight Block Orbitertm Core
Color Black / Purple
D-Scale 75 -78
Available Weights 12 -16 Pounds
Core Dynamics
WEIGHTS RG DIFFERENTIAL
16 lb. 2.60 (Med-High) .030 (Low)
15 lb. 2.61 (Med-High) .028 (Low)
14 lb. 2.63 (High) .035 (Med)
13 lb. 2.67 (High) .020 (Low)
12 lb. 2.67 (High) .020 (Low)
Post by: Mark Curran on January 23, 2006, 09:06:23 PM
My Saturn is punched with a 4.5 x 4.0 layout, pin up over ring finger. This would be a 70 degree 4.5 inch pin placement up 3" from the midplane. Ball gives me a couple inches of flare on the house condition.
Coverstock in out of the box condition. When thrown with my normal release and speed this ball gets down the lane easy and then bites and turns nicely off the spot. Nothing goofy, just a nice predictable reaction with a crisp hit. Jump on it a bit and you can make it turn harder, back out with a bit of added speed and you can straighten it but won't give up much hitting power. I really like balls like this as I can make them do different things and don't feel like I'm carrying a single condition pellet around. As intended, the Saturn is going to replace my aging Ressurection as the benchmark ball in my current collection.
I'm really impressed with the core dynamics of this ball and it looks like a superb core + cover match. Ball rolls great, revs up and keeps it's energy downlane without over hooking. Looks like the Saturn will be one of the best all around mediums ball from Roto to date. Certainly this ball will find a home in a lot of competitive arsenals and it is going to be a very flexible piece for shops to put players into. Knowing how the Roto covers respond to cover tweaking, I expect it will shine up very well and give signficantly more length with commensurate increase in breakpoint angle.
The Saturn is another superb value from Roto Grip.
Mark
Post by: Stone 8 on January 31, 2006, 11:51:46 AM
Post by: morpheus on February 01, 2006, 06:04:27 PM
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Pin: Out 3"
Starting Top Weight: 2.5 oz.
Layout: 4" Pin to axis; small hole on axis (5 3/8" out, 1/2" down)
Surface: Light coat of Storm Xtra Shine
I don't normally review balls until I've used them for at least a month, but I'm gonna make an exception with the Saturn. Let me start by saying this ball is much stronger than the core numbers and the price point would suggest. It's actually a great compliment to the RS-X in terms of ball motion and overall hook. I drilled the Saturn because I've been struggling at my home house which breaks down very quickly. I typically end up around the fourth arrow, but the backends are tight so carry isn't good. The Saturn clears the fronts and doesn't read the midlane as much as my RS-X, but archs nicely off the spot. I expected it to be a little jumpy off the break point, but it's really smooth and it hits great. Great match of cover and core, this might be the best entry level reactive on the market.
Morpheus
Post by: bowlersrus on February 07, 2006, 01:22:55 PM
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Post by: SenorRotoGrip on February 07, 2006, 05:27:22 PM
I drilled the box condition Saturn with a 5" x 4" layout, pin above my ring finger, a 55/64 weight hole 2" deep on my axis, leaving approximately 1/2 ounce of side weight. My axis is 5 1/4" over, 3/8" up, which put the pin a shade to the right of my gripline.
I bowled on a freshly oiled house condition, 32' of oil buffed to 39 feet. As a benchmark ball I used a black Roto Grip Silver Streak, label drilled, pin above my ring finger, 4 1/2" from my pap. To strike with the Silver Streak, I stood 32 and rolled the ball 17 at the arrows to 10 at the break point. I then took the Saturn and played the same line. I struck a few times before the ball hit some carry down and didn't finish. I then moved 5 boards right to 27 and played a 14 to 10 line. Giving the ball a little less oil up front and the same amount of friction on the back let the Orbiter core do its job. This ball hit hard, kept the pins low, and struck on shots even when I missed a board or two out. As the shot broke down a little, I moved inside to stand on 37. I slow hooked it through the front part of the lane out to 12 and the ball set up and struck.
The Saturn rolled smoothly through the fronts and midlane,with a very readable, smooth arc on the backend. For medium/dry conditions, bowler's with medium to heavy hands should have no problem getting this ball down the lane with plenty of pop left for the back end. Drilling this ball with a slightly stronger layout will help those bowler's with weaker hands/lower rev rates, play more in the oil up front, and still have pop left for the back end. Changing the surface to alter the breakpoint can easily be done by using finer grits of sandpaper on the ball. With a retail price of around $130, this ball will fit well into any bowler's arsenal.
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Post by: mab on February 13, 2006, 10:49:00 AM
Post by: roTO loCO on February 18, 2006, 03:10:23 PM
I was able to get inside all of my Sonic line balls and still stay right of the RS1/X's and my Silver Streak. This put me in the sweet spot of the lane that night and I managed to shoot a 776 set that included a 290 game. This ball is a perfect addition to your Roto collection with the Solid reactive cover and the Orbiter core.
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Roto Grip advisory staff
Post by: strombergM on February 18, 2006, 03:42:53 PM
I tested this ball on a left over house shot on old Brunswick synthetic lanes. This ball goes down the lanes relatively straight and smooth, but amazes me on how much backend it has! I love how the Saturn is so smooth going through the oil pattern. I am a whole arrow to the right when I throw this ball compared to my Epic Battle and Oracle bowling balls. The Saturn is definitely the “go to†ball after the transition is dead and gone, and the lanes are beginning to open up some more. I also do not have a problem moving into 4th arrow with the Saturn since it still recovers and carries real well. This ball still needs a little bit of head oil to work or else the backend will be too much for the ball. This ball is real touchy on heavy oil conditions as it should be since the RG is very high (2.61- 15lb) making it a perfect ball for medium to light oil conditions. The big payoff is that for an entry level ball, you get tremendous hitting power and great carry, all while having an amazingly predictable reaction! I love the Saturn and definitely recommend this ball to be part of any bowler’s arsenal today!
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Roto Grip Advisory Staff Member
Post by: ODriscoll on February 20, 2006, 10:41:40 PM
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Post by: Mr Scary on February 22, 2006, 10:02:13 AM
This is a very smooth drilling. Hitting the pocket light-flush will throw the pins all over the deck. Very consistent roll on a fresh shot, or on a lighter pattern. I tend to keep it away from heavier patterns.
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Roto Grip Advisory Staff
Post by: vivasrv on March 07, 2006, 05:07:12 PM
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Post by: mrr300 on March 17, 2006, 12:22:48 PM
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Post by: RevLefty on March 20, 2006, 02:29:15 PM
Ball specs: Times 2 1st is a 15lb 2.5 oz top 4-4.5pin, 2nd is 15lb 2.5 top with 3-4 pin
Drillings: First is drilled with pin in my ring finger and cg kicked an inch to positive side just left and about an inch above thumb hole, threw in oob condition then polished it with bruswick high gloss factory finish. Second is drilled with pin on my PAP and cg is 2 inches under ring finger. Also polished over the oob with brunswick factory finish.
Reviews:1st ball i purchased first. I have found this to be a great piece for med to med light when I need to get a ball thru broken down heads on med condition with either fresh backs or a little carry down. Boy does this ball have a great entry angle to the pocket goes down about fifty feet and makes a very hard sharp controlled turn of the dry and hits excellent. Keeps pins low and flying. Tug it inside it will hold and let it out a few boards of target will recover nicely and still carry most of time. This ball is worth every penny I paid for it and then some. This ball is worth its weight in gold on a med condition. I give this ball a solid 9 out of 10. A definate must buy for the price.
2nd I made a condition specific ball. I drilled this ball with the pin on my axis. Have alot of trouble around these parts with broken heads and over reactive backends. So decided to go this route and glad I did. This ball gets thru heads of any kind clean and it brings the rail back in to my bag and makes a nice controlled arc to pocket with ample energy to carry out the corner, it replaced my mercury, that how impressed i was with it. I really suggest drilling one of these if you are a power tweener or a cranker that is looking for a nice controlled look and bringing backa part of the lane you havent played in years cause you cant keep it there. I can play in the dirt with this. For this condition it is solid gold. This drilling is not for someone that doesnt move the ball a whole lot, If you have never been able to get into 20-25 at the arrows on a fresh ths this drilling is not for you for all others please give it a try. Keep these planet balls coming i with throw the death out of them!!
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Post by: Roto-Mat on March 24, 2006, 03:52:20 PM
A pic of the ball that I am reviewing now can be found here:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/Roto-Mat/Saturn.jpg
Ball Stats:
Pin Location: 5.5" Over Bridge
Mass Bias Location: 65 Degrees
Weight Hole: None
Personal Favorite Surface Condition: Polished or White Scotch Brite
Review:
Conditions I would consider using this ball on:
Shorter patterns
Choppy head oil
Later league or tournament blocks
If I am bowling on a short sport or house pattern, this is one of the first balls out of my bag. This ball is great for those down and in outside lines where other balls will either burn up too soon or are unable to stay outside long enough to take advantage of these angles. Another condition I have found this ball usefull is when medium patterns are going through transition in the front part of the lane. This ball simply ignores the dry boards in the heads, also making this a prime ball for me to use when bowling in longer tournament formats. I have no worries about taking this ball into 5th or 6th arrow to get left of the dry boards and still get great carry.
Conditions I would not consider using this ball on:
Longer patterns
Extreme left to right wet dry
Carry Down
Obviously this ball was not made for heavy oil. I have found that even with a duller surface, this ball will not recover well or read the midlane if there is a fair amount of oil towards the end of the lane. I also thought that this ball might be the ticket for a playing a top hat house pattern right up the oil line, which it was if I consistently missed right. If I missed left by even a board, or threw it a little bit too hard, it would not recover enough to manage a strike.
Roto-Grip Balls Up or Down In Reaction:
Ball Up In Reaction: Silver Streak SE
Ball Down In Reaction: Mercury
I have found that if I am using the Saturn on a condition that suits it and start to run into some carry down, I can easily switch to my Silver Streak SE (Drilled pin 5" from PAP/mass bias 70 degrees) and be within 2-3 boards left of the reaction. However, if I find myself on a condition with the Saturn where it starts to burn up too early (Extremely rare), I can switch to my Mercury (Drilled pin in ring finger/mass bias 70 degrees) and either stand in the same place or even move a board or two right and maintain the line.
Caveat for others:
As I have drilled this ball for other bowlers, I have found some dos or don’ts.
DO Experiment with the cover. Polished may be better for you.
DONT Expect this ball to be used on complete toast. The Mercury is much better for this.
DO buy this ball if you have a higher rev rate and have trouble getting the ball through the heads.
DO buy this ball if you have a lower rev rate and enjoy playing out side angles.
Thank you for your time in reading this review. I hope that you have found it helpful. If you have any questions feel free to PM me and I will try to help.
Thanks!
Mat Henning
Roto-Grip Staffer
Champions Bowling Services
Post by: Steve Richter on March 24, 2006, 06:54:30 PM
For the couple of Saturn’s that are in our area, the results have been very good so far. This cover reads the midlane quicker than all other entry level balls in the RG line, or any other for that matter. Drilled strong, this ball can cover quite a few boards going left to right. This is the perfect compliment to bridge the gap between the RSX and Mercury. Despite the same core, this ball is easily 6 with the feet and 3 on the lane stronger than the Merc..
At $120, this ball is the best value in price for hook in the entry level market.
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Roto Grip Amateur Staff Member
Post by: doubleS on March 25, 2006, 07:46:19 AM
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Post by: Craig LeMond on March 25, 2006, 01:53:09 PM
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Post by: Admiral50 on March 28, 2006, 07:54:31 AM
Thank you,
Justin Godfrey
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Post by: YOMOP1212 on April 10, 2006, 09:36:10 PM
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ROTO-GRIP STAFF
Post by: STEVEN HAUK on April 25, 2006, 06:20:30 PM
great on lanes that dry heads and oil carry down.
I drilled my Saturn with the pin above the bridge and the cg kick out 1/2inch and shiny. This ball reads the midlane very smooth.It goes down 3 to 4 feet than the Mercury and has little sharper break point.This very great for the price for the entry level. I strongly recommend this ball to everybody that needs some help fighting the lanes that have the heads gone and backend carry down. I used mine the Generation gap Tournament and won it with averaging 238 with my partner .
STEVEN HAUK
ROTO GRIP STAFF
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Post by: Lanedevil on May 15, 2006, 06:10:50 PM
For me I have drilled this ball pin high above the fingers with the drill pattern rotated away from the CG for a little additional kick. I found that this ball reads the lanes quite well, especially when the lanes start to break down and you need a ball to turn to.
If the box finish does not work, I have sanded mine to 2000 using an avalon pad, and polished it using a high gloss polish, with this the ball seems to read the lanes better and will add additional length.
This ball is the perfect piece to eliminate the break down problems that most bowlers encounter on a nightly basis, and again for the price you can`t beat the saturn.
Jason
Roto Grip Priority Pro Shop
Post by: BrandonR on May 23, 2006, 10:42:53 PM
Layout: 4 3/4 by 5- the pin is above & just left of ring finger-pics later
Surface: I took the box surface and added 3C polish
Reaction: Great length w/ a smooth motion of the dry, along w/ continous backend reaction. "Suprising"!!
Overall:
This ball is a nice suprise.
More detailed info later....
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Post by: John Brodersen on September 03, 2006, 01:11:27 AM
Punched this Roto-Grip planet ball 4.75†X 45 degrees with the pin below the ring finger about ½ inch. Also took the cover up to 1000 and polished with Storm Reactashine. The cover stock seems to take adjustments very well as it sanded and polished easily.
With any oil in the heads, the Saturn provided very easy length through the fronts and into the late mid-lane. When friction was found in the back, the ball responded with a smooth arc and hit surprisingly well for an entry-level product. With some carry down in the back the Saturn seemed to hit a bit weak as plink 10’s were the result. Creating more axis rotation solved this issue as the Saturn responded well to hand position changes. The Saturn remained smooth and predictable even with the additional axis rotation.
The Saturn, and the entire Roto-Grip entry level Planet line, provides the best performance for the price in the industry.
John Brodersen
Post by: DP3 on December 03, 2006, 12:52:56 PM
The Saturn has a brand new cover base that Roto Grip is using that provides great traction in oil and smoothens out the transition from oil to dry boards. This new cover is extremely grabby in the out of box finish. If you play it in the dry early, expect to have a hard time keeping it on your side of the lane. When the big balls are hooking early, this one will too. The formula behind the Saturn is very simple, a low priced ball that will give you an option in heavier amounts of oil.
I drilled this Saturn with the pin at 5" from my pap and 2" above the midline, this landed the pin right into the ring finger hole. I left it without an x hole to start with. For me this gives me a great option in heavier volumes when the Horizon Solid is giving me too much angle on the backend. On heavier patterns with clean backends, the Saturn is a stallion. Playing direct lines gives you a great look on these patterns because you have the control up front from the low diff core, and the strength in the oil from the strong cover with a smooth transition in the back.
Due to me not seeing many high volume shots, and me already having 4 ball choices with surface, I decided to put a large x-hole on my PAP and polish the ball up with Storm React-a-Shine. To my suprise, the ball reacted much smoother and was about 4 boards less in the backend. This will work great for me on the really dry stuff when I need to get way inside and play the fallback shot. It's also doubling as my spareball in the meantime until my Cosmos get here due to it's straightness through the fronts.
This is a very versatile piece that will suprise you with how much oil it can handle. Definately one that you can put your favorite drill pattern on and watch it shine.
Post by: olererack on January 16, 2007, 06:30:23 PM
Lane Conditions: Medium Oil
Typical Conditions: Variety of Shots
Type of Lane: All Synthetic
What part of the lane did you play? Third Arrow
Did the ball track out? Slow
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: Factory/Box
What grit was the surface of the ball? 800
Likes: Dollars vs. performance
Cover Stock: and Solid Reactive
Dislikes: none at this period of time
I compared the Saturn to the Mercury
In a world where Dollars vs. performance
The Saturn surpassed the Mercury which is surprising
Going by the specs
The Saturn is much stronger than the ball specs suggested.
If you like the Mercury which in my thought was the most under rated mid price or mid condition ball to date.
Factory finish 800 Machine Sanded
The cover stock is very adjustable and the large core stores energy
Very clean thru the heads nice mid-lane read and smooth STRONG arcing transition on the back end
This offering from Roto Grip should not be overlooked by anyone.
What more can you ask for
Post by: PrecisionRotoGuy on February 09, 2007, 08:26:15 PM
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Post by: Bowler19 on February 20, 2007, 07:46:53 PM
Revs: 350+
Axis tilt: 20-25 Deg
Axis rotation: Approx. 30 deg
Desription:
Weight (Pre-drill) 15 and change
Top weight (Pre-drill)
Pin to CG distance 3â€
Surface prep 1500 Grit Polished
Drilling
Pin to PAP distance 3.5†Pin to grip center distance 0†Pin in palm cg placement: cg is placed 45Deg from Grip center line Balance hole location, size, and depth. Thumb positive Quadrant 22.5deg from pin/cg line towards grip line
Drilling is a Rico with a different X hole location
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O------cg
Condition used was PBA Regional Pattern 3(38Ft) and THS(38Ft)
Pattern #3 Lane condition was Guardian with wood backends.
I used a dull surface at about 800 grit on this pattern and the ball was very mild and had a even reaction down lane. This ball worked great once the lanes broke down a bit and needed something to get through the heads and still hold down lane.
THS is AMF synthetic conditions are med oil for our areas THS
This ball gives a strong smooth read. The Saturn has a very smooth and controlled reaction and did not react to strong.
Line being played
Pattern #4 10/ 7 @ 38-40ft THS 15/8 @ 40 ft on fresh
Overall Thoughts
This ball is great for use on med to light oil pattern with short to med length. It give a good read. Ball has good carry. The balls reaction didn’t change much from 600-800. Polished the ball was more flippy than even as it retained too much energy.
I can’t really compare to other equipment as I just re-built my arsenal and have never thrown anything with a layout like this before.
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Post by: jeorj on February 26, 2007, 05:18:22 PM
Post by: STRONGNUBIAN64 on March 25, 2007, 03:39:04 PM
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Post by: Fuse on December 21, 2007, 05:19:09 AM
Pin to CG: 3"
Surface: OOB (800 factory sanded)
Ball is drilled conventional grip 3 1/2" pin to PAP, CG towards grip center. Pin ends up about 1/2" right of ring finger. No weight hole.
I'm a right handed stroker, med revs and ball speed.
I've changed my release after throwing my Epic Quest, that ball forced me to improve my technique in order to harness it's powers.
When I throw this ball on a THS I send it down the 10 board and it reads the midlane pretty early and then makes a very hard arc into the pocket. I can also open it up a bit by standing in the center and throwing it out over 15 and it breaks back into the pocket if my speed is right.
On dry heads I can lob it a bit and if there's carrydown I can slow it up and it'll hit a bit weak but this ball is excellent for spares so it's all good.
If the lanes are really dry I can ramp up my speed.
This ball is so great for light to med light oil, The core gives great stability and length for a duller solid reactive, and the midlane read and hard arcing motion give me a great look on the right conditions. Compared to the Venus, this ball reads much sooner and it flips less. if the venus goes to long and wont roll the Saturn most likely will. More predictable than the venus with a slightly stronger hit.
I thought this ball was just so-so until I learned to change my release for a lower track, this ball hooks so much more for me than it used to. I love it.
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