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dR3w

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1500 polished
« on: April 18, 2010, 03:15:27 AM »
I know these topics have been covered ad nauseam on this site, but I am trying to resurface a dark star for someone.  The oob is 1500 polished.  I went to the web site and it describes this:

http://www.rotogrip.com/products/balls/care/

1500 Grit Polished:

   1. Reactive - Use Storm's Reacta Shine with a 4 Step polishing process

I don't see where the 4 step polishing process is described on the page, although I guess I could make a stab at it.  There is a description of the 4 step sanding process which logically is different.  It also doesn't describe what grit to sand to first although 1,500 seems like a good guess, even though there aren't any 1500 abralon pads.  Anyone with some advice?
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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2010, 02:21:13 PM »
Me and several other people have found just using 2000 abralon plus a gritless polish is the way to go.

Its called 1500 polished because the ball is taken to 1500 grit THEN polished with compound which in turn raises the grit under the polish as it is polished.

I have even confirmed this by buying a 1500 grit sia air pad then polish and it indeed was earlier then the OOB.

dR3w

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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2010, 03:14:39 PM »
How do you go to 2000?  Do you go 500, 1000, 2000?  It seems like all the manufacturers are making a big deal out of the order of changing grits.
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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2010, 03:42:17 PM »
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How do you go to 2000?  Do you go 500, 1000, 2000?  It seems like all the manufacturers are making a big deal out of the order of changing grits.
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Yes. Unless you know for a fact that that specific ball's stock surface was a "500/4000" grit preparation, AND you want to replicate a manufacturer's surface, always use all necessary intermediate grits. You may not have to start with 500 grit. It depends on what you did previously. But do use 1000 and 2000 grit. Try to make sure the pads are at least close to the specified grit level, not one a 2000 grit pad that's been used 40 or 50 times already.
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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2010, 09:26:10 PM »
I have been hitting it with a 1000 pad then with storm step 2. it get really close

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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2010, 12:09:52 PM »
Hello dR3w,

Roto Grip is Storms sister company and we use the same process for both sides of lines.  The process you are referring to is a little outdated and here is the suggested 1500 grit polished factory finish for Storm and Roto Grip.

500 Grit Abralon Pad - sand for 15 seconds on 4 sides of the ball
Grey Scotch Brite pad - Sand for 40 seconds on 4 sides of the ball
Storm Step 2 compound - polish lightly for 15 seconds on 2 sides of the ball

Thank you,

Mike Sargent
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dR3w

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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2010, 12:15:53 PM »
Thanks for the info.  Another question if you may.  I have Step 2, and it's been sitting on a shelf for about 6 months or so.  I tried to shake it up pretty good before using it, but it was pretty runny.  I seem to recall it being kind of gritty.  Am I dreaming?  Is there a way to get it back by stirring it up if I am not dreaming?
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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2010, 12:48:25 PM »
it should look just like other polishes only you should feel the grit in it.

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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2010, 01:14:56 PM »
quote:
Hello dR3w,

Roto Grip is Storms sister company and we use the same process for both sides of lines.  The process you are referring to is a little outdated and here is the suggested 1500 grit polished factory finish for Storm and Roto Grip.

500 Grit Abralon Pad - sand for 15 seconds on 4 sides of the ball
Grey Scotch Brite pad - Sand for 40 seconds on 4 sides of the ball
Storm Step 2 compound - polish lightly for 15 seconds on 2 sides of the ball

Thank you,

Mike Sargent
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What does a Grey Scotch Brite pad equal in Abralon?

dR3w

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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2010, 01:37:25 PM »
From the FAQ section of BallReviews.  800 grit

CODE  - COLOR  -  3M Name                      - US GRIT Number
7445 - White pad, called Light Duty Cleansing - (1000) 1200-1500 grit US
7448 - Light Grey, called Ultra Fine Hand - (600-800) 800 grit US
6448 - Green, called Light Duty Hand Pad - (600) 600 grit US
7447 - Maroon pad, called General Purpose Hand - (320-400) 320 grit US
6444 - Brown pad, called Extra Duty Hand - (280-320) 240 grit US
7446 - Dark Grey pad, called Blending Pad (180-220) 150 grit
7440 - Tan pad, called Heavy Duty Hand Pad - (120-150) 100 grit
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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2010, 02:46:15 PM »
about P1500 grit is what grey is. (its rated at 800 us/cami scale but abralon is based on the P/fepa standard)

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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2010, 03:01:17 PM »
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Thanks for the info.  Another question if you may.  I have Step 2, and it''s been sitting on a shelf for about 6 months or so.  I tried to shake it up pretty good before using it, but it was pretty runny.  I seem to recall it being kind of gritty.  Am I dreaming?  Is there a way to get it back by stirring it up if I am not dreaming?
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There will be some seperation and the bottle should be shaken up fairly well before using and if it doesnt seem gritty than you can add some water to it and shake the bottle again.

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Edited on 4/19/2010 3:02 PM

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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 05:25:33 AM »
quote:
Hello dR3w,

Roto Grip is Storms sister company and we use the same process for both sides of lines.  The process you are referring to is a little outdated and here is the suggested 1500 grit polished factory finish for Storm and Roto Grip.

500 Grit Abralon Pad - sand for 15 seconds on 4 sides of the ball
Grey Scotch Brite pad - Sand for 40 seconds on 4 sides of the ball
Storm Step 2 compound - polish lightly for 15 seconds on 2 sides of the ball

Thank you,

Mike Sargent
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So the 1500 compound has changed from this:
For a thorough resurface of a 1500 polished ball, our recommendation is to use 500 grit abralon for 2 minutes, but then skip directly to Storm’s Step 2 Finishing Compound. This has an aggressive resurfacing and polishing medium that will polish the ball while resurfacing it to a 1500 grit finish. As well, less is more so apply the compound sparingly until the desired finish is achieved.

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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2010, 09:56:19 AM »
tburky,

There are many ways to get a 1500 grit polished reading but the process i posted will get you the closest to our oob factory polished finish using a ball spinner.

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Re: 1500 polished
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2010, 10:51:04 AM »
i would just stop at the grit you want, then put some diamond gloss on it....