Post by: Ric Clint on October 15, 2008, 01:38:46 AM
Not from me... it's from daveozio
Thoughts?
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Post by: Ric Clint on October 15, 2008, 09:52:33 AM
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I doubt very seriously that is really Dave Ozio..
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I highly doubt it also!
But then again... if it IS truely him, and that's the honest impression that he got from the ball, then it's good that he is being honest.
But me personally, I think the Cell Pearl will be "Ball Of The Year"!
Edited on 10/15/2008 9:56 AM
Post by: jkiser01 on October 15, 2008, 10:01:01 AM
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I doubt very seriously that is really Dave Ozio..
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I highly doubt it also!
But then again... if it IS truely him, and that's the honest impression that he got from the ball, then it's good that he is being honest.
But me personally, I think the Cell Pearl will be "Ball Of The Year"!
Edited on 10/15/2008 9:56 AM
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on October 15, 2008, 11:05:42 AM
1-Too much oil upfront then it becomes greatly straighter, Cell Solid would be and as is a much better choice as you would think.
2-Wet/dry shot with a very defined oil line, if you leak it a few boards out from keeping it in the oil and then out boom you serious backend reaction that is overreaction.
Overall it gets a solid 9/10 on true mediums, for me it does not handle medium-heavy fresh oil it skates the first 10 feet with ease. I am thinking of 4k no polish to make it a more usable at both centers I bowl at, still a great ball will win ball of the year or at least pearl of the year.
Edited on 10/15/2008 11:11 AM
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Post by: ElectricLeftSlider on October 15, 2008, 11:49:48 AM
Post by: 302efi on October 15, 2008, 11:56:02 AM
If it's really from ozio, who knows, but this is not your normal "bsh" review.
The guy is just giving his opinion on the ball, nothing worng with that, that is the purpose of this site..lol
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Post by: T Brockette on October 15, 2008, 11:58:18 AM
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Seems like a legit reveiew IMO.
If it's really from ozio, who knows, but this is not your normal "bsh" review.
The guy is just giving his opinion on the ball, nothing worng with that, that is the purpose of this site..lol
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Post by: jkiser01 on October 15, 2008, 12:30:35 PM
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I didn't really care about the original Cell myself. It lost all it's luster after 6 games. I've seen other bowlers with the Cell pearl, and didn't see a wow factor on that too.
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Post by: Mustang Guy on October 15, 2008, 12:48:22 PM
BUT, as everyone stated the purpose of the site is for people to share (good or bad) what they think about the ball. Even if people are deceiving or just plain upset that is their decision to say what they want. Since 98% of all the other reviews are positive and I'm sure the overall response will be positive I'm not too worried about it. The ball could have been drilled improperly for the player for where he/she bowls and there are many other factors that can give someone a bad taste in their mouth about a bowling ball.
Thank you! Now lets start talking about positives! LOL
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Post by: MC on October 15, 2008, 12:50:49 PM
You could be right but I understood it another way.
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your the 1st person I have ever seen post something saying a ball died after 6 games.. I doubt that very much.. If you clean a ball after each use, that should not happen..quote:
I didn't really care about the original Cell myself. It lost all it's luster after 6 games. I've seen other bowlers with the Cell pearl, and didn't see a wow factor on that too.
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Post by: ElectricLeftSlider on October 15, 2008, 12:53:12 PM
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your the 1st person I have ever seen post something saying a ball died after 6 games.. I doubt that very much.. If you clean a ball after each use, that should not happen..quote:
I didn't really care about the original Cell myself. It lost all it's luster after 6 games. I've seen other bowlers with the Cell pearl, and didn't see a wow factor on that too.
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They don't call me Mr. Mirofiber for nothing. I wipe my ball before, during, and after my leagues. I didn't say the ball died, but the ball lost all it's "wow factor" .I've even hit it with 4000 grit ab. It worked a couple of games, then it went limp. My Storm Domination has more snap in the backend than my Cell. Oh well.
Post by: jkiser01 on October 15, 2008, 12:53:42 PM
After reading it again, you could be correct but after 6 games that seems kind of odd..
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I thought that when he said it "lost its luster" that he was saying that he lost the intrique it had. Otherwords, the honeymoon was over. just my opinion.
You could be right but I understood it another way.
Mikequote:
your the 1st person I have ever seen post something saying a ball died after 6 games.. I doubt that very much.. If you clean a ball after each use, that should not happen..quote:
I didn't really care about the original Cell myself. It lost all it's luster after 6 games. I've seen other bowlers with the Cell pearl, and didn't see a wow factor on that too.
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Post by: ElectricLeftSlider on October 15, 2008, 12:59:32 PM
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I thought that when he said it "lost its luster" that he was saying that he lost the intrique it had. Otherwords, the honeymoon was over. just my opinion.
You could be right but I understood it another way.
Mikequote:
your the 1st person I have ever seen post something saying a ball died after 6 games.. I doubt that very much.. If you clean a ball after each use, that should not happen..quote:
I didn't really care about the original Cell myself. It lost all it's luster after 6 games. I've seen other bowlers with the Cell pearl, and didn't see a wow factor on that too.
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on October 15, 2008, 06:21:39 PM
So holy Bat Man this ball flat out moves with anything made now, got rid of the skid snap nature and now just reads and hooks through the pin deck
I took off my Striker brace that is my crutch and then because of my increase of tilt, the ball even hooked more but went straighter upfront a few feet before the motion.
So there is a rating revision for me back to 9.5 on mediums and probably higher on true medium heavy oil.
Edited on 10/15/2008 6:23 PM
Post by: Ric Clint on October 15, 2008, 07:39:26 PM
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My 4 year old was bored today, so i spun the ball at 2k abralon no polish and off to bowling we went. Now the ball is still longer than original Cell that I have polished but outhooks it in the back easily 6-7 boards. I was able to move in the full 6 boards and the ball came alive on the same Wet/Dry it was all over the place on Monday night.
So holy Bat Man this ball flat out moves with anything made now, got rid of the skid snap nature and now just reads and hooks through the pin deck
I took off my Striker brace that is my crutch and then because of my increase of tilt, the ball even hooked more but went straighter upfront a few feet before the motion.
So there is a rating revision for me back to 9.5 on mediums and probably higher on true medium heavy oil.
Edited on 10/15/2008 6:23 PM
What was your CELL PEARL's coverstock finish before you took it to 2k abralon?
Post by: charlest on October 15, 2008, 11:59:17 PM
quote:quote:
your the 1st person I have ever seen post something saying a ball died after 6 games.. I doubt that very much.. If you clean a ball after each use, that should not happen..quote:
I didn't really care about the original Cell myself. It lost all it's luster after 6 games. I've seen other bowlers with the Cell pearl, and didn't see a wow factor on that too.
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They don't call me Mr. Mirofiber for nothing. I wipe my ball before, during, and after my leagues. I didn't say the ball died, but the ball lost all it's "wow factor" .I've even hit it with 4000 grit ab. It worked a couple of games, then it went limp. My Storm Domination has more snap in the backend than my Cell. Oh well.
The Cell is not SUPPOSED to have "snap" on it. If you don't understand what a ball is, what its basic design is intended to do, then you will probably not use it on the right oil pattern nor will it be drilled correctly. Thus, it is inevitable that you will be unhappy with it.
At 4000 grit Abralon, my Cell, not Cell Pearl, hooked so much at the backend, it alsmot did snap.
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Post by: stormed1 on October 16, 2008, 08:43:06 AM
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Post by: LuckyLefty on October 16, 2008, 09:01:51 AM
I thought David Ozio is in his 50s!
Unless his name really IS David Ozio(could be). One should not be able to use a pros name and do reviews. It just smacks of me calling myself John McCain and making outlandish posts out here about Obama.
The review.....good....until he says he wouldn't buy another RotoGrip. The PRO Ozio I can't imagine that post from him or another pro.
For ElectricSlider.....aren't all pearls suppossed to have more "Snap" that a solid like the Cell that is known for its powerful and smooth continuation?
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Post by: dizzyfugu on October 16, 2008, 09:16:35 AM
BTW - if it is a bowler's impression, that's fine. But using someone else's name to add... credibility(???), is IMHO lame.
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Post by: tdub36tjt on October 16, 2008, 11:15:14 AM
Post by: jkiser01 on October 16, 2008, 11:26:45 AM
I think I would have to know all those things before I could say a ball looked bad in anyone's hands. There are way too many variables that could fall into place here..
There are also several very good reveiws on this ball, so I chalk it up to some people expecting way to much out of new release stuff or they just don't match up well with the ball.. Thats for sure happened to me before but that doesn't make it a bad ball, just not for me..
Remember, a ball is only as good as the driver.. LOL..
Just my 2 cents..
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I have saw 3 Cell Pearls on the lanes, all 3 are good bowlers. One of which is on the Roto-Grip Amatuer Staff and another a "Roto-Grip Pro Shop" operator. And only one of them looked even decent and it wasn't the guy who is on Staff or the Pro-shop operator. The one that looked decent was a lower rev strojer lefty. The other 2 I saw looked like terds. I was seriously considering buying one since I loved the Cell so much but after seeing them in action I probably won't buy one. I might consider getting a used one or something later down the road but would have to be the right deal. Maybe its a fluke tho too since so many people love the ball.
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Post by: tdub36tjt on October 16, 2008, 11:55:06 AM
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I guess my question is what do you mean they looked like terds? What lane conditions where they using this ball on? How where they drilled? Where they box finish?
I think I would have to know all those things before I could say a ball looked bad in anyone's hands. There are way too many variables that could fall into place here..
There are also several very good reveiws on this ball, so I chalk it up to some people expecting way to much out of new release stuff or they just don't match up well with the ball.. Thats for sure happened to me before but that doesn't make it a bad ball, just not for me..
Remember, a ball is only as good as the driver.. LOL..
Just my 2 cents..quote:
I have saw 3 Cell Pearls on the lanes, all 3 are good bowlers. One of which is on the Roto-Grip Amatuer Staff and another a "Roto-Grip Pro Shop" operator. And only one of them looked even decent and it wasn't the guy who is on Staff or the Pro-shop operator. The one that looked decent was a lower rev strojer lefty. The other 2 I saw looked like terds. I was seriously considering buying one since I loved the Cell so much but after seeing them in action I probably won't buy one. I might consider getting a used one or something later down the road but would have to be the right deal. Maybe its a fluke tho too since so many people love the ball.
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Post by: ccrider on October 16, 2008, 05:12:25 PM
Any of you who have a basic understanding should know that lane condition, ball set up, and individual ability has more to do with the end result than how good or bad the ball is.
Take the Cell Pearl, or any other newer releases, drilled correctly for a good bowler, on the correct lane conditions and they will make the ball shine.
Put the same ball and bowler on the wrong lane condition and he may be able to score with the ball, but the ball will not look as good.
Buy the ball and try it if you can afford it, and that is what you want to do. All of the discussion about how good or bad the ball is ------ useless.
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on October 16, 2008, 05:14:26 PM
quote:quote:
My 4 year old was bored today, so i spun the ball at 2k abralon no polish and off to bowling we went. Now the ball is still longer than original Cell that I have polished but outhooks it in the back easily 6-7 boards. I was able to move in the full 6 boards and the ball came alive on the same Wet/Dry it was all over the place on Monday night.
So holy Bat Man this ball flat out moves with anything made now, got rid of the skid snap nature and now just reads and hooks through the pin deck
I took off my Striker brace that is my crutch and then because of my increase of tilt, the ball even hooked more but went straighter upfront a few feet before the motion.
So there is a rating revision for me back to 9.5 on mediums and probably higher on true medium heavy oil.
Edited on 10/15/2008 6:23 PM
What was your CELL PEARL's coverstock finish before you took it to 2k abralon?
Edited on 10/16/2008 5:14 PM
Post by: Juggernaut on October 17, 2008, 08:03:40 PM
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This posting seems useless. Although I have only been bowling a couple of years, I have owned a lot of balls, and do all that I can to learn and understand.
Any of you who have a basic understanding should know that lane condition, ball set up, and individual ability has more to do with the end result than how good or bad the ball is.
Take the Cell Pearl, or any other newer releases, drilled correctly for a good bowler, on the correct lane conditions and they will make the ball shine.
Put the same ball and bowler on the wrong lane condition and he may be able to score with the ball, but the ball will not look as good.
Buy the ball and try it if you can afford it, and that is what you want to do. All of the discussion about how good or bad the ball is ------ useless.
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Post by: ccrider on October 21, 2008, 11:38:57 AM
One of my few, brief moments of clarity.
I wonder how the Cell Pearl compares to the Gravity Shift. My guess is that they roll similar. I can not imagine the Cell Pearl having more backend.
I can use my Gravity Shift for all three games during our 5 men league, on a modified THS, with more oil outside of 5 then normal you can miss right. Just have to be careful to stay firm because of over an under on fresh shot like most pearls I have thrown. Is the Cell Pearl about the same?
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on October 21, 2008, 11:52:27 AM
Gravity shift is different than the CP, not huge differences enough to warrant having each ball. I dulled my CP to 2k no polish, now it picks up and handles oil like a champ before it was somewhat allergic to oil.
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Jugg,
One of my few, brief moments of clarity.
I wonder how the Cell Pearl compares to the Gravity Shift. My guess is that they roll similar. I can not imagine the Cell Pearl having more backend.
I can use my Gravity Shift for all three games during our 5 men league, on a modified THS, with more oil outside of 5 then normal you can miss right. Just have to be careful to stay firm because of over an under on fresh shot like most pearls I have thrown. Is the Cell Pearl about the same?
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Post by: strikealot on October 21, 2008, 12:09:16 PM
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Post by: wkf0908 on October 22, 2008, 04:46:25 AM
Just when ROTO-GRIP make a ball is suitable for 990 bowlers & 10 isn't!!
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Post by: jls on November 25, 2008, 11:57:13 AM
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Not from me... it's from daveozio
Thoughts?
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?BallID=916&ManufacterID=15&ReviewID=30065
Just one thought on the Cell Pearl.
IT IS SELLING WELL!!!!!! >>>> in our area, the midwest!!!
enough said
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Post by: JustRico on November 25, 2008, 12:00:53 PM
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Post by: jls on November 25, 2008, 12:04:09 PM
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Not on the west coast...
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Wow, really, it's not doing well out west? Here in the midwest, the ball has been a huge hit.
go figure
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Post by: Rileybowler on November 25, 2008, 12:20:18 PM
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Not on the west coast...
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Wow, really, it's not doing well out west? Here in the midwest, the ball has been a huge hit.
go figure
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Post by: JustRico on November 25, 2008, 12:29:54 PM
Most of the shops out here, in Starbucks land, are not seeing the response from the pearl that there was for the solid. It is also a little allergic to oil. There are other pearls that out perform it also.
Glad you are selling them, we can send ours to you.
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on November 25, 2008, 03:01:55 PM
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Post by: DP3 on November 25, 2008, 03:51:55 PM
It's pretty frustrating reading "reviews" and hearing assertions all day about a ball's faults and characteristics and why it "isn't good for ___ type of bowlers". You'd think from reading that every shot delivered off of everyone's hand with an opinion was labeled down to a tee without any operator error in release or lane playing strategies.
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Post by: VideoBallReviews on November 25, 2008, 03:52:07 PM
Now knock the polish off of this thing and as Barry has said it handles oil very well...the ball is very tuneable to suit your needs
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Post by: VideoBallReviews on November 25, 2008, 03:55:49 PM
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One thing that the ball had in common over a wide range of styles was the ability to still read strong in the oil and not squirt out of the end of the pattern when thrown well.
Boy is this ever right on...i have seen too many people throw strong polished pearl equipment or just something polished in general and the second they miss it a bit at the bottom or throw it a bit faster there is instant carrydown and the ball sucks...
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on November 25, 2008, 04:01:40 PM
In Fact I cannot think on a single Rotogrip ball that I have that would be for sale, The Illusion was not great for me but cracked in half so I got a new ball for it anyway.
I do not think they are making a single bad product at this time, If I had the Illusion Pin over ring instead of under it would have worked much better.
Post by: nowski1381 on November 25, 2008, 04:25:31 PM