My Tsunami is drilled 1:30 label and the Venus is drilled pin under the ring finger and the CG kicked out a little bit. That being said, the Tsunami revs up a little earlier and rolls a little sooner that the Venus does, but the overall hook isn't much different for me until I put more side roll on the ball. The Venus responds better to forward roll than side roll and when they burn up more, I can flatten my hand out and throw it harder with great success. I can do that with the Tsunami too, but it usually rolls a little too early and I have trouble keeping it off the nose. Conversely, with the Tsunami I can go deeper with more axis rotation with better success than the Venus. I think that's because of the drill and the fact that the Tsunami has a lower RG core than the Venus. I hope this helps.