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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: Rileybowler on June 18, 2019, 02:32:48 PM
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I am of the opinion that high dollar balls are not needed on a typical house shot in bowling. I just purchased not to long ago a Hustle Ink and more recently a Hustle AU which are the only balls that I have needed or used in the last 5 weeks of senior league bowling. It is just a pleasure to throw these balls especially the Hustle Au. I am not a high rev bowler and I do bowl at a slower speed but I am probably more happy with what is in my bag than at any other time and more confident as well to what the equipment is going to do.
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I think it all depends on the condition. In a vacuum, yes they're "needed" as there are extreme conditions one can face in tournaments that require a Sure Lock / Crux Prime and those type balls.
But, since you specified in the OP on a "typical" house shot.....I don't really ever need too much more than a HyRoad/Hectic or at most something like a Hyper Cell Fused at 3000.
The Hustles are plenty of ball for a loosely defined THS.
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On a house shot I've never needed more than a mid-level ball.
On Leaning Tower of Pisa last night I needed my Absolute Nirvana to start and balled down for games 3 & 4 of league
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It all depends on the house. In most places, I can use my Sigma Sting/Tribal Fusion and have no issues with it. But there are some places that use a high volume of oil where I have to go up to my No Rules Pearl Extreme/No Rules solid that I still use as needed.
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But, I remember about 4 years ago I bought a IQ Tour Nano and thought it was really strong. Then after the PBA 50 Tournament was done for the day, we bowled on their fresh pattern and I quickly found out that the ball wasn't that strong and struggled to put it in the same place twice.
For the record, these results do not indicate ball strength. This is a reflection of a bowler's ability to perform.
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But, I remember about 4 years ago I bought a IQ Tour Nano and thought it was really strong. Then after the PBA 50 Tournament was done for the day, we bowled on their fresh pattern and I quickly found out that the ball wasn't that strong and struggled to put it in the same place twice.
For the record, these results do not indicate ball strength. This is a reflection of a bowler's ability to perform.
Given this particular persons post history it definitely falls on his ability to perform.
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75% of the time no, $100 balls will do the trick!
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If you wait a year to get this year's high dollar ball it will very likely be on the discontinued list and available much cheaper. Or, get last year's ball now.
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it depends on the house shot; the term doesn't equate to the oil volume, but rather the ease of scoring.
You can have a house shot that is long and heavy oil; and still have the higher scoring pace
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On most house shots, most bowlers use equipment that is likely much stronger then what is needed. Typically weaker equipment allows them to stay in a better part of the lane longer and make smaller moves then most of the stronger bowling balls.
Right tool for the job vs what looks cool
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Haven't needed anything but my hustle ink all winter/summer so far
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Since no two house shots are the same, I can't say no with any certainty. But I've used big balls with surface to control the move off of friction. Trying to attack certain fresh house shot with a shiny ball or mid-range ball is too over under for me, so I want the ball to bleed energy.
Now on a sport shot with volume, you may need a big ball. Period.
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Since no two house shots are the same, I can't say no with any certainty. But I've used big balls with surface to control the move off of friction. Trying to attack certain fresh house shot with a shiny ball or mid-range ball is too over under for me, so I want the ball to bleed energy.
Now on a sport shot with volume, you may need a big ball. Period.
+1.
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Since no two house shots are the same, I can't say no with any certainty. But I've used big balls with surface to control the move off of friction. Trying to attack certain fresh house shot with a shiny ball or mid-range ball is too over under for me, so I want the ball to bleed energy.
Now on a sport shot with volume, you may need a big ball. Period.
+1.
Concur, most house shots I encounter are very cliffed. Strong balls smooth out the friction and get up the hill in the puddle in the middle.
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All depends on the THS condition and the bowler's style. I tend to carry a big ball, a medium and a small ball.
Yes, it is agreed that I could use the smaller weak piece and score fairly well right along with others playing on the lanes, but usually on the fresh shot, I'm going straighter with a big piece to properly break the lanes down right, and SCORE at the same time.
I then move in and ball down accordingly. But that's just me!
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Since no two house shots are the same, I can't say no with any certainty. But I've used big balls with surface to control the move off of friction. Trying to attack certain fresh house shot with a shiny ball or mid-range ball is too over under for me, so I want the ball to bleed energy.
Now on a sport shot with volume, you may need a big ball. Period.
+1.
Concur, most house shots I encounter are very cliffed. Strong balls smooth out the friction and get up the hill in the puddle in the middle.
And, if you don't like the other team, allows you to wreck the shim and make their noses bleed when they have to move their left foot off the big dot.
From what I've heard, anyways. :)
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yes they are, but not for everyone.
I bowl with a lot of old timers who use nothing but high end stuff to get the ball back to the pocket. watching dudes just up 5 high end equipment averaging 210+...
so there's that.
as for me, i am normally throwing an after dark pearl up the ditch, but when too many people are on that line, i find comfort in getting deeper with stronger stuff and playing way away from everyone
so yes, there are definitely spots for it
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Actually I prefer "bigger balls" on house conditions specifically because most are so wet dry, and the bigger the ball, the better it blends that usually. I used a combo of Idol, Crux Prime, Phaze 2 (all lane shined) and Halo Pearl from 2nd-3rd arrow and averaged nearly 240 this season, and really could have used a Hyroad or Hustle Ink if I'd have wanted to. BUT with over/under to begin with, and the transition that balls like that create, plus just generally rough transition on house shots anyway, the bigger stuff really muted the effect of transition and allowed me to stay in the pocket the vast majority of the time. I used them lane shined as well so it wouldn't destroy my heads and mids, but still give me a good amount of control of the mids and backends. I bowled a whole lot smarter this year, not necessarily better, and it really showed.
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Right handed, left handed or 2 handed?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Depends on how you want to play the lanes. Tweeners like me can often score well with tame low end bowls by going straighter down the oil line. If I need to get in a little then I might want an asymetric to get some good recovery. Best house shot balls I own are after dark solid and honey badger. Best dport shot balls are Phase 2 and Idol Pearl.
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High dollar and ball strength are not always the same as well. Buddies often has the strongest balls less than even a year ago for under $100. Not going to name names but there are some middle of the road balls with nearly premium prices imo as well.
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High dollar and ball strength are not always the same as well. Buddies often has the strongest balls less than even a year ago for under $100. Not going to name names but there are some middle of the road balls with nearly premium prices imo as well.
And I’d bet most of said balls are under the Brunswick umbrella.
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High dollar and ball strength are not always the same as well. Buddies often has the strongest balls less than even a year ago for under $100. Not going to name names but there are some middle of the road balls with nearly premium prices imo as well.
And I’d bet most of said balls are under the Brunswick umbrella.
Just picked up Quantum Bias for $120 so Viva Mexico I guess.
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As a person who depends on them weekly... yes.
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I dont think there is any correlation between price and performance. Its about whether a ball matches up to a pattern for your game. I have a 5 ball tournament arsenal that includes some so called high dollar balls and some cheaper balls down to a After Dark solid. Not uncommon to hit a condition where the After Dark is the best option. Also not uncommon to hit a Condition where my Phase 2 is my best option. Probably several balls at either end of the price spectrum that would give similar performance for me.