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Title: Big Wes...
Post by: themachine300 on May 06, 2008, 08:59:47 AM
Saw on pba website big Wes is signing with Roto.  I'm shocked to be honest, he's been throwing C300 stuff for a long time.  Its a great pick up, he's an unbelievable talent
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: jkiser01 on May 06, 2008, 05:07:10 PM
wow, I am shocked as well.. C300 lost a good guy there..

Congrats to RG for landing him. I just hope he matches up with the RG equipment..
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: Locke on May 06, 2008, 05:09:06 PM
He wasn't lost by C300. Roto earned this. With the Cell they have solidified themselves as the cutting edge company. It is only right that they get a big name bowler.
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: pate08 on May 06, 2008, 05:09:48 PM
Wes knows enough about layouts and balls and just bowling in general to where I think he could make any company work for him. I don't have any objections to this switch. The only thing that I don't like is that he might not be at the Dream Camp now since the camp is run by Ebonite
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: Hogsharley on May 06, 2008, 05:27:26 PM
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wow, I am shocked as well..


http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=196819&ForumID=77&CategoryID=2

Not so surprised^^^
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: BiGtYmEr300 on May 06, 2008, 05:36:16 PM
I'm not that surprised. He's been with a different company in each of the past couple of years. 06-07 was Track, 07-08 was Columbia, and now 08-09 will be Roto. Good move by Roto too by the way. I think Wes' game might match up even better with roto than it did with columbia. If it does, Roto will sell many more balls than they ever did before because he'll make the show every week.
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: abrown on May 06, 2008, 05:50:33 PM
should be interesting to  see how he performes with the roto gear
and also to see if roto does like some of the other brands have done and make a ball aimed at the power type player since it seems that roto stuff seems to be real smooth
Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: charlest on May 06, 2008, 06:22:27 PM
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should be interesting to  see how he performes with the roto gear
and also to see if roto does like some of the other brands have done and make a ball aimed at the power type player since it seems that roto stuff seems to be real smooth


abrown,

Unless your release makes things "real smooth", the Mystic and the Illusion are among the flippiest balls made, as was the Saga, the RS-1 and the Silver STreak Pearl.
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: abrown on May 06, 2008, 08:41:15 PM
meaning that most of there stuff isnt the long and left mentality that storm and ebonite has been know for lately
Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: batbowler on May 07, 2008, 12:13:54 AM
Darn, Did somebody just wake up, Roger said last Friday that Wes was signed by R/G! lol I'd like to see him with an Odyssey! Talking about a big move on the backend, especially with his hand. Congrats to R/G on a Big move, Bruce
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: charlest on May 07, 2008, 06:45:12 AM
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meaning that most of there stuff isnt the long and left mentality that storm and ebonite has been know for lately


Hmmmm? The Cell, Quest, SD-73, Horizon, Saturn, Pluto are very smooth; Neptune and Venus are fairly smooth. The Odyssey, Illusion, Mystic are on the flippier side. Ok, "mostly" works for me.
(I keep forgetting about balls I can never use: SD-73, Quest.)
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: TWOHAND834 on May 07, 2008, 07:11:01 AM
I have to agree.  He can make anything look good.  When a few of them made Track look terrible on TV (Scroggins for sure), Wes was winning with them.  He made the Power Machine look tremendous.  It will be interesting to see some Roto on TV more often.
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: LuckyLefty on May 07, 2008, 03:08:29 PM
Nasty comments on Scroggins I just believe he had release issues with the Track balls.  Never seemed to be getting out of them correctly from the thumb!
Why I have no idea!

RE Roto and Wes....I have not seen him use anything but pearlier stuff!
Does Roto have any of this in a strong core which he seems to always be using???

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: Jorge300 on May 07, 2008, 03:16:55 PM
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Nasty comments on Scroggins I just believe he had release issues with the Track balls.  Never seemed to be getting out of them correctly from the thumb!
Why I have no idea!

RE Roto and Wes....I have not seen him use anything but pearlier stuff!
Does Roto have any of this in a strong core which he seems to always be using???

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Did you watch him bowl last year at all....the Resurgance and Rival are not pearl balls, and he threw those a lot. Only pearl ball was the Wrath HF and Wrath DF.
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: LuckyLefty on May 07, 2008, 03:19:05 PM
Resurgance is not pearl, neither is rival?  I don't see many(any) in our area but they sure looked like pearls to me from a distance on TV.

Solids?  Highly polished?

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: Deathclutch on May 07, 2008, 03:25:11 PM
^^^^^^Yes they are both solids. Yes he had them polished.
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: LuckyLefty on May 07, 2008, 03:30:53 PM
Samuel....thanks for the post.

I have to say....have not seen either in real life!

I use Columbia but don't know many around here who do!  I have a loved Wow Pearl and a just broken in Icon2(5 or 6 years).  Newer  stuff!

From this picture I see...


Pearly, but it IS just a picture  (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=3&BallID=826")

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Edited on 5/7/2008 3:31 PM
Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: pate08 on May 07, 2008, 04:30:48 PM
I have watched Wes throw the Cell and the Illusion. The Cell's wouldn't hit right, but they were both at probably 1000 and the lanes were burnt, so that's what I would expect to happen anyway. The Illusion looked good because it was polished and he was striking with that. He also had not bowled in about 3 weeks so that made a difference too.
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: microfiber on May 07, 2008, 04:38:27 PM
Sorry to change the subject

""RANT ON""
but I had to vent after reading some of this post... As a bowler I want a clear cut answer on whether a ball is a solid or pearl, reactive or particle! If you go to the brunswick or ebonite/hammer/columbia/track websites YOU CAN'T TELL!!!!!

The only two major brands that give you the answer without guessing off a picture or searching the "fine" print, is storm and roto

**RANT OFF**

roto grip, congratulations on the new addition. I see bright things for both of you.
Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: LuckyLefty on May 07, 2008, 06:18:39 PM
Along the lines of solid or pearl???

I can think of Smash/R from Brunswick, Action Max, this Resurgence....all suppossedly solids!  OK but they sure look like pearls!  OR pearly!

This Rival also.

Now I KNOW the Cell is a solid!!!  Black Widow and No Mercy too!  But the pearly looking Resurgence(I've never seen one in real life!)?

Pearly!  And yes ...big Wes made that look SO good!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: alloutsmith3 on May 07, 2008, 09:40:14 PM
quote:
Sorry to change the subject

""RANT ON""
but I had to vent after reading some of this post... As a bowler I want a clear cut answer on whether a ball is a solid or pearl, reactive or particle! If you go to the brunswick or ebonite/hammer/columbia/track websites YOU CAN'T TELL!!!!!

The only two major brands that give you the answer without guessing off a picture or searching the "fine" print, is storm and roto

**RANT OFF**

roto grip, congratulations on the new addition. I see bright things for both of you.


Not to continue to keep off topic but have you even been to the Brunswick website, because it states plain as day for each ball if it is a pearl, solid, or hybrid. Not sure about ebonite/hammer/columbia/track.

Back on topic, congrats to RG for getting such a great talent and nice guy. He will definately bring more attention to the brand if everything matches up for him.
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: hammermike2000 on May 07, 2008, 09:53:39 PM
Don't even worry about the Resurgence being pearl, once you've seen one in person, you'll know it's dull as heck out of the box.
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: Jorge300 on May 08, 2008, 08:45:34 AM
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Along the lines of solid or pearl???

I can think of Smash/R from Brunswick, Action Max, this Resurgence....all suppossedly solids!  OK but they sure look like pearls!  OR pearly!

This Rival also.

Now I KNOW the Cell is a solid!!!  Black Widow and No Mercy too!  But the pearly looking Resurgence(I've never seen one in real life!)?

Pearly!  And yes ...big Wes made that look SO good!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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The Resurgence and the Rival are not pearl balls, period. Just because a ball is not one solid color does not mean it is a pearl. There are many solids that are multiple colors. I have both balls personally and I can tell you with 100% certainty they are not pearl coverstocks.
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: LuckyLefty on May 08, 2008, 08:48:08 AM
I have a Deuce...clearly solid...multiple colors.  I have a smash/r company says polished solid....I think pearl.

Never seen a Resurgence(except on TV)...I do believe you.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: batbowler on May 08, 2008, 11:00:03 AM
Darn Charlest I can use my Quest now that I put some Bean's on it and the SD-73! I used the SD-73 at the Pinnacle (Clarksville) and talking about movement off the spot, that ball was a beast at breakpoint! R/G have a new mid-priced ball coming this summer, that's from my R/G staffer friend and he tests a lot of stuff for them. I think Wes will have a lot of choices on what to throw and maybe a new ball is in the works for his game! Just my $.02, Bruce
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: rymacatthedisco on May 08, 2008, 11:11:57 AM
looks like im going to be drilling some roto stuff now...i love big wes and gotta follow him with the equipment LOL
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: Crankenstein300 on May 08, 2008, 01:41:40 PM
Wes seemed to like the old San Antonio C300 stuff more than the current Ebolumbia balls so maybe it will be a better choice for him. Columbia probably wasn't too excited to see him go through qualifying and match play using Detours and Action Maxs.
Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: Hoselrockets on May 09, 2008, 08:53:06 AM
And I thought this was the new face for Roto???

http://www2.snapfish.com/viewsharedphoto/p=48391210341162731/l=377188446/g=33214505/otsc=SYE/otsi=SPIC;jsessionid=E543B6FB922844E4D6A284FAAE411DFD
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Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: pinspeaker on May 09, 2008, 10:15:49 AM
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I'm not that surprised. He's been with a different company in each of the past couple of years. 06-07 was Track, 07-08 was Columbia, and now 08-09 will be Roto. Good move by Roto too by the way. I think Wes' game might match up even better with roto than it did with columbia. If it does, Roto will sell many more balls than they ever did before because he'll make the show every week.
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Edited on 5/6/2008 5:37 PM


In the past, Wes changed brands because of the wishes the execs at Columbia/Track.  When Ebonite took over, they asked him to go back to Columbia.  Although it seems like he jumped ship alot, it wasn't his choice.
Title: Re: Big Wes...
Post by: CHawk15 on May 09, 2008, 01:07:17 PM
Wes can make anything look good and it's a huge win to have him on the RG staff next season.  I'm sad to see him leave C300, but that's the way it goes.