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sammy the sage

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who makes the roto
« on: November 08, 2005, 04:21:11 AM »
coverstock? can't remember!
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EboHammer4ever

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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2005, 12:22:39 PM »
Your question is vague but Storm makes all of RotoGrip balls now.
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sammy the sage

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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2005, 12:27:36 PM »
thanks...kinda thought so
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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2005, 01:57:05 PM »
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thanks...kinda thought so


BBUUUTTT, the coverstocks and the cores are all Roto-Grip design's teams formulations! AS far as I know, no Storm coverstocks or cores were ever harmed or used in the making of a Roto-Grip ball.
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EboHammer4ever

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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2005, 02:13:56 PM »
Yes, I realize that charlest.  Would be cool to see a frankenstein Storm/Roto ball though
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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2005, 02:38:20 PM »
I could have sworn Roger told me over the phone or on this website that some storm coverstocks have been brought over to the Roto line.  IE these covers.... Ultra Sonic -- Pro Stock Pearl, Top Fuel -- X Factor Deuce, Oracle -- Fear Factor, Apocalypse -- XXX Factor


Am I right Roger?
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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2005, 02:42:30 PM »
DP3,

only the base formulas.....those may be the same, but the coverstock when completed is uniquely a Roto "blend" as compared to Storm.....
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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2005, 02:45:11 PM »
I would love to see something based from the Vertigo cover.
Maybe Epic? Or newer solid reactive Oracle!
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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2005, 02:54:20 PM »
How many different kinds of cake can you bake with the same basic ingredients?  That is a good example of how many different coverstocks you can make with the same basic formula.

 I too thought that surely SOME of the storm covers had been "roto-ized", but maybe not. Just a small tweak and you can call it something else.
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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2005, 04:09:37 PM »
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How many different kinds of cake can you bake with the same basic ingredients?  That is a good example of how many different coverstocks you can make with the same basic formula.


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 I too thought that surely SOME of the storm covers had been "roto-ized", but maybe not. Just a small tweak and you can call it something else.
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A "small tweak" can make all the difference in the world.

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I wonder why does everyone care so much which coverstock is which, besides being a discussion because you have nothing better to do. I bet I know. YOu're assuming, once you like a coverstock, you'll like that coverstock when it's wrapped around any other core. Ironic that bowlers make the same erroneous assumption about cores. They look for the same core or a core with similar specs to one they happen to like. Funny thing is they never realize how often they are wrong; they only remember the ones that happen to work.

Once a cover is mixed with a core, it becomes a unique ball. Once it is drilled and used by any one bowler, its reaction makes it even more unique. Use it on 2 different oil patterns and you have two different ball reactions.

"You buy a ball reaction; you NEVER, EVER buy a ball!"
You do not buy a core; you do not buy a coverstock!
You do buy a ball's reaction.

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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2005, 04:11:07 PM »
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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2005, 06:34:21 PM »
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I could have sworn Roger told me over the phone or on this website that some storm coverstocks have been brought over to the Roto line.  IE these covers.... Ultra Sonic -- Pro Stock Pearl, Top Fuel -- X Factor Deuce, Oracle -- Fear Factor, Apocalypse -- XXX Factor


Am I right Roger?
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whoa whoa whoa...no way in hell is the cover on teh Apocalypse the XXX factor coverstock. Not even close. The apocoalypse is a solid pearl blended cover, while the cover on the XXX factor is purely a pearl resin. But i can imagine that the Ultra Sonic and the Pro Stock Pearl have the same cover
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sammy the sage

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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2005, 09:19:07 PM »
while I generally respect this guy's post(s)....this is dead wrong...""You do not buy a core; you do not buy a coverstock!""


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Mustang Guy

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Re: who makes the roto
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2005, 08:31:01 AM »
Good conversation...

I do like the example Charlest used.  EVERY bowler should be looking for a ball reaction.  When your buying a new ball it is because your current ball isn't doing something you need it to do on a condition/surface, etc...  

BALL REACTION  

No specific coverstock we use or Storm uses gets used on each others products.  We try to consider ourselves a separate company and this is the only way to do it.  Some are not that much different, but enough for me to be able to say this with confidence.

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