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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: vilecanards on February 12, 2008, 05:42:11 PM

Title: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: vilecanards on February 12, 2008, 05:42:11 PM: "If you have high ball speed or low revs or choose to use a 5.5 or 6" pin position, then you'll need either more surface (1000 grit) or a milder drill or a lower ball speed."

Thanks!!! After reading that little snippet in another thread, I decided to take my Cell cover down to 1000 abralon, and shot 286-211-247=744. The drill on mine is 4.5 X 4 with a 2.5" pin slightly above ring finger and MB slightly right of thumb, and I do have a higher ball speed with medium revs. Taking the cover down to 1000 allowed me to play down the boards(5-7) without having to back down on the speed. You DO have to be careful about not "wimping" it down the lane, though, and the carry generated by the higher speed is simply phenomenal!

I always read your posts/replies for the "spot-on" observations about coverstock and drilling suggestions.... keep 'em coming!
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Edited on 2/13/2008 2:53 AM
Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: charlest on February 13, 2008, 04:44:55 AM: Thank you. Glad I finally helped someone.

You can try the intermediate grit level of 1500 grit (betwen the 1000 and the stock 2000); just use a damp sponge as backing to simulate an Abralon pad.
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Edited on 2/13/2008 5:46 AM
Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: Monster Pike on February 13, 2008, 06:29:59 AM: I'll have to 2nd that vilecanards, Charlest posts a lot of good info. Thanks Charlest!
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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: CharlieBrown on February 13, 2008, 06:34:05 AM: charlest is THE anti-FIGJAM.

He is good and we ask him!
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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: T Brockette on February 13, 2008, 06:56:17 AM: That would be a figDam........last part meaning " Don't ask me ".
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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: jensm on February 13, 2008, 07:17:03 AM: charlest is one of the main reasons I keep returning to this board.

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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: FastTracker33 on February 13, 2008, 07:18:42 AM: This should just be a whole thread dedicated to Jeff. LOL. He is a really cool guy, and he really knows his stuff!
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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: Laybzz74 on February 13, 2008, 07:22:16 AM: I'll second that; Jeff is too modest ... but that is part of the allure.

Thanx, Jeff !!!
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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: on February 13, 2008, 07:31:10 AM: I can also attest to Jeff's good information. Always helpful, but not always acknowledged by others... Keep up the good work!

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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: A_P_K on February 13, 2008, 07:38:06 AM: If you think he know's a lot on this site, you should see him in person.
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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: on February 13, 2008, 08:32:52 AM: Does he wear a leotards and a cape?
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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: Monster Pike on February 13, 2008, 08:58:20 AM: quote:
Does he wear a leotards and a cape?
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No, I picture him w/a bowtie, lab coat, manacle, messed up gray hair, pencil thin mustache & a time piece dangling from a chain in his vest pocket. Oh yeah, pocket protector w/grease pencils, finger grips, bowlers tape & a rasp.LOL!! Fixed
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Edited on 2/13/2008 10:19 AM
Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: on February 13, 2008, 09:10:58 AM: Jeff,
At least he didn't mention any pocket protector and it's multiple pens.

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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Amateur Staff
Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: Monster Pike on February 13, 2008, 09:19:39 AM: quote:
Jeff,
At least he didn't mention any pocket protector and it's multiple pens.

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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Amateur Staff

Fixed.
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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: charlest on February 13, 2008, 10:34:50 AM: Thanks, folks, I think ....
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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: on February 13, 2008, 11:03:22 AM: It's like a celebrity roast! You 'da man!

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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: vilecanards on February 13, 2008, 12:53:37 PM: charlest... I actually am more used to, and comfortable with, keeping ball-speed high rather than trying to back-off. It is the big reason I was thrilled reading all the initial observations about the Cell, because maybe FINALLY there would be a ball that suited my style without compromising one part or another. My first few outings seemed to justify my expectations but, like you, I DID notice a slight tendency toward over/under if you weren't consistent with your speed and release. I find that with the cover at 1000 abralon I still get the GREAT continuation from midlane through pin-deck, but the back-end is significantly smoother and consistent. I am not a fan of angularity as I am not skilled enough to get consistently good results from it, and the tamer back-end motion seems to allow ME more room for error.... I have carried some shots that have left both myself and teammates just scratching their heads and laughing in amazement! This is due mainly to being able to maintain a higher ball-speed with a lower grit, in my opinion. I will keep the sandpaper-grit information handy for future consideration, though I am very happy with the results I am getting, so far, with the 1000 abralon. Once again, thanks for your continuing efforts in educating bowlers about coverstock prep and drilling layouts. I believe Roger also knew that your opinions on the Cell's performance would be invaluable to people's assessment of performance capabilities of the ball, and sending you a "comp" ball was a wise decision knowing that you would evaluate it honestly, and without bias.
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Title: Re: charlest... thanks for your help!!
Post by: Krumpy300 on February 13, 2008, 01:15:53 PM: quote:
Thanks, folks, I think ....
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LOL!

Jeff's a good man with the patience of a saint. I know I have bugged him more than a few times over the years.
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