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Chilli by Roto Grip
« on: January 17, 2024, 11:48:28 PM »
Does anyone have information on the Hustle Chilli? I saw it on Bowlersmart web site. I wonder how long the ball goes? Need a ball for drier lanes. Thanks!

 

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2024, 02:55:20 AM »
As I know, the Hustle Chilli is typically designed for medium to dry lane conditions. Its pearl reactive coverstock is geared towards providing length and responsiveness on drier lanes.

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2024, 06:53:41 AM »
Does anyone have information on the Hustle Chilli? I saw it on Bowlersmart web site. I wonder how long the ball goes? Need a ball for drier lanes. Thanks!

"Drier" is relative.  Is it drier on the backend where you are having a hard time controlling it or is it drier in the front part where you are having a hard time getting the ball to push further down the lane?  Another thing is what are your specs?  Ball choice could be different whether you are a 14 mph guy or an 18-19 mph guy.  Do you consider yourself rev dominate, speed dominate, or matched up?  I ask these questions because it could make the difference between suggesting a Twist, Hustle, or an IQ Tour. 
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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2024, 09:05:56 AM »
Thanks for getting back to me. It is the drier back ends that gives me problems. I have used the IQ 78 lately at this center. Been bowling better. I lack th speed I believe I need. Lost my speed after we all came back from the pandemic. I have tried to sand the ball down and also polished them to the max.

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2024, 12:05:31 PM »
So what exactly is the IQ 78 doing?  Is it still too strong, too early, or is it weaker than what you thought and need something a little stronger?  My concern is that if you have slower ball speed and you are using a core with a lower RG, the core will want to help start the motion a little too soon.  I would never suggest a urethane for someone with slow ball speed because they tend to want to dig a little too quick and they are not typically successful moving inside and swinging them.  You could probably get away with the NU because there is enough resin in the cover to consider it as a non urethane and the core would allow it to be longer down lane and more continuous without being flippy and uncontrollable. 

For slower ball speeds (under 15 mph at release), I would suggest balls like the Tropical Surge or even a Twist with the Hustle line and Raw Hammer line as a step above that.  The big thing is to get balls that have lower differentials (lower than .035) as a way to control the backend.  But at the end of the day, I would look at the Hustle RIP as a starting point as long as you are in the 15-16 mph range at release.  If you think you are slower than that, then may want to consider a Tropical Surge.
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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2024, 02:03:28 PM »
Pearl is going to be the opposite of what you want on a dry lane. You want something solid that is going to burn up its energy in the front of the lane so that it doesn’t overreact on the backend. Pearls are going to overreact on the backend.

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2024, 02:25:16 PM »
Hustle Chilli is just an overseas repaint of the RIP and Camo

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2024, 09:26:42 PM »
IQ 78 has been able to keep me in play. I will say it does hook when it hits the dry. I do have a Tropical Surge and it hook a lot for me. Thinking of trying Slip Agent on it to help me control the ball better.

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2024, 11:22:18 AM »
Pearl is going to be the opposite of what you want on a dry lane. You want something solid that is going to burn up its energy in the front of the lane so that it doesn’t overreact on the backend. Pearls are going to overreact on the backend.

That is not always the case.  The Radioactive has way more backend than some pearls.  My Deep Freeze was a pearl and it was far from flippy and even with a 5 inch pin to PAP.  The biggest issue he has in his ball speed if his Surge is hooking a lot.  The TS is one of the weaskest balls on the market that isnt plastic or urethane.  Look at the Axe.  That is another ball he could consider since there is no core in it and it is a pearl. 
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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2024, 11:26:47 AM »
IQ 78 has been able to keep me in play. I will say it does hook when it hits the dry. I do have a Tropical Surge and it hook a lot for me. Thinking of trying Slip Agent on it to help me control the ball better.

Anything is going to hook when it hits dry, even plastic if not thrown hard enough.  Another ball that just came to mind is the Axe by Hammer.  Look at this video by Brunsnick.  Even with his rev rate he has a really difficult time getting backend motion without manipulating it.  Dont worry about the first shot though because it throws up right up the friction.  But as soon as it sees a little oil, it struggles.  Could be a good option when the IQ is not working very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3x1oQ-UPZI

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2024, 01:41:59 PM »
IQ 78 has been able to keep me in play. I will say it does hook when it hits the dry. I do have a Tropical Surge and it hook a lot for me. Thinking of trying Slip Agent on it to help me control the ball better.

Anything is going to hook when it hits dry, even plastic if not thrown hard enough.  Another ball that just came to mind is the Axe by Hammer.  Look at this video by Brunsnick.  Even with his rev rate he has a really difficult time getting backend motion without manipulating it.  Dont worry about the first shot though because it throws up right up the friction.  But as soon as it sees a little oil, it struggles.  Could be a good option when the IQ is not working very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3x1oQ-UPZI



This may actually be the best option for the situation described and can take the polish off if it needs a little bit of traction

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2024, 07:13:26 AM »
If you don't mind doing some maintenance every 6-9 games, buy a bottle of CTD TruCut Gloss. I'm a no thumb bowler at a dry house, and shot my season best series three out of four weeks after applying this product to a few of my balls. It has especially been amazing on a short pin to pap asymmetrical.

If you don't want to do that, drill a Radical The Spy with an agressive layout. It's a plastic ball with an asym core. Shot my first 300 with that ball on wood lanes in a tournament.

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2024, 07:54:51 PM »
Thank you!

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2024, 09:49:13 AM »
Pearl is going to be the opposite of what you want on a dry lane. You want something solid that is going to burn up its energy in the front of the lane so that it doesn’t overreact on the backend. Pearls are going to overreact on the backend.

That is not always the case.  The Radioactive has way more backend than some pearls.  My Deep Freeze was a pearl and it was far from flippy and even with a 5 inch pin to PAP.  The biggest issue he has in his ball speed if his Surge is hooking a lot.  The TS is one of the weaskest balls on the market that isnt plastic or urethane.  Look at the Axe.  That is another ball he could consider since there is no core in it and it is a pearl.
I know there is always going to be an exception to every rule but I’d rather tell someone something that is true most of the time than wait for an opportunity where there will never be an exception. But I always appreciate the literalist that keeps me honest.

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Re: Chilli by Roto Grip
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2024, 07:32:00 AM »
Pearl is going to be the opposite of what you want on a dry lane. You want something solid that is going to burn up its energy in the front of the lane so that it doesn’t overreact on the backend. Pearls are going to overreact on the backend.

That is not always the case.  The Radioactive has way more backend than some pearls.  My Deep Freeze was a pearl and it was far from flippy and even with a 5 inch pin to PAP.  The biggest issue he has in his ball speed if his Surge is hooking a lot.  The TS is one of the weaskest balls on the market that isnt plastic or urethane.  Look at the Axe.  That is another ball he could consider since there is no core in it and it is a pearl.
I know there is always going to be an exception to every rule but I’d rather tell someone something that is true most of the time than wait for an opportunity where there will never be an exception. But I always appreciate the literalist that keeps me honest.

I understand what you are saying.  Luke Rosdahl has said in some of his videos that is isnt just about pearl, solid, and hybrid anymore.  It is about what the ball is designed to do or does.  Kloempken quite a few years ago did a video where he took 3 different Rocket bowling balls all with a significant difference.  One had the same cover with no core in it. One had the Rocket core with a weaker cover.  And the third was the Rocket they were releasing to the public.  He threw them side by side and the difference was night and day.  The coreless Rocket went 50 feet and barely did anything.  The one with the core but weaker cover did the same thing, and the actual Rocket went 40 feet, revved up, and had a nice hard arcing motion.  I found the video and am attaching it below.  The comparison happens at about the 4:00 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRzvW3-2c88
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