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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: stormed1 on January 30, 2017, 01:07:56 PM
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COLOR: Black/Teal/Red
COVERSTOCK: Recklessâ„¢ Solid Reactive
CORE: Madcapâ„¢
FINISH: 2000-Grit Pad
LANE CONDITION: Medium to Heavy Oil
REACTION: Smooth Controlled Hook
WEIGHTS: 12-16 lbs.
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http://www.rotogrip.com/balls/daredeviltrick
Not my favorite color combination, but it should definitely stick out. This one makes sense in the HP3 line. With the Haywire and it's 80H MicroBite/NRG Solid Reactive Nano coverstock that should still be stronger. The Hy-Wire and Dare Devil offer fairly different motions. Will be interesting to see this one compared to the Phaze II.
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I think it'll roll better than the phaze....
I am totally getting this!
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Personally, rolling better than a Phaze II will be hard to do, but I'm open to that!
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I personally feel the Dare Devil rolls way better than the Phaze, so I dont see why the DDT wont roll as well or better than the Phaze II.
Will be interesting to see when it's released.
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Depends on which Phaze you had, if it was the first batch, sure, but second batch or after were REALLY good. It's unfortunate that people got an idea based on the first batch and don't know about anything after that. No idea what happened or what the issue with the first batch was but man the rest after that were GREAT. Very distinct difference in color and reaction. Second batch and on were much darker, much more typical pearl looking ball, and it acted like it.
Daredevil Trick should be better than Phaze 2 . . my Phaze 2 gets weak and squirty when it gets some lane shine on it, requires a lot of surface maintenance. The Trick hopefully won't have that issue.
I personally feel the Dare Devil rolls way better than the Phaze, so I dont see why the DDT wont roll as well or better than the Phaze II.
Will be interesting to see when it's released.
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Looks like Marc did some testing with it yesterday, I want the feedback! haha
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HAS ANYONE THROW THIS BALL, I LOVE THE ORIGINAL AND HAVE ROOM FOR A SOLID IN MY BAG???????
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I got one last night, if anyone is familiar with the old Horizon Solid, it reminds a lot of that ball. It's not Disturbed good but more useable than the Haywire (Haywire for me was very Grindy and lazy down lane) i can circle the lane more with the DDT.
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I got one last night, if anyone is familiar with the old Horizon Solid, it reminds a lot of that ball. It's not Disturbed good but more useable than the Haywire (Haywire for me was very Grindy and lazy down lane) i can circle the lane more with the DDT.
Happen to have thrown the Phaze II or Rocketship to compare to them? I'm definitely glad to hear it backends more than the Haywire as I just couldn't match up to that one.
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I got one last night, if anyone is familiar with the old Horizon Solid, it reminds a lot of that ball. It's not Disturbed good but more useable than the Haywire (Haywire for me was very Grindy and lazy down lane) i can circle the lane more with the DDT.
Happen to have thrown the Phaze II or Rocketship to compare to them? I'm definitely glad to hear it backends more than the Haywire as I just couldn't match up to that one.
Haven't drilled a Storm ball since that shit stain Optimus. Visually, it's less than a P2 overall and earlier and less downlane than a Rocketship. Again, that's a visual estimation.
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I got one last night, if anyone is familiar with the old Horizon Solid, it reminds a lot of that ball. It's not Disturbed good but more useable than the Haywire (Haywire for me was very Grindy and lazy down lane) i can circle the lane more with the DDT.
Happen to have thrown the Phaze II or Rocketship to compare to them? I'm definitely glad to hear it backends more than the Haywire as I just couldn't match up to that one.
Haven't drilled a Storm ball since that shit stain Optimus. Visually, it's less than a P2 overall and earlier and less downlane than a Rocketship. Again, that's a visual estimation.
Gotcha, just been drilling RG then lately?
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That is correct. The basement is stocked with hyroads, IQ Tours (solid, fusion and gold) should storm stop the fluff and make solid equipment.
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I'm looking at getting a solid ball for heavy oil. My no rules pearl is perfect for medium oil patterns but I struggle with it in heavy oil. I personally would love to pair it with the no rules solid but that price tag makes me gunshy for a ball that I could only use on certain conditions.
Would you consider it a solid enough ball to where it's good in heavy oil but is also affordable given it's lack of use?
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If you are staying in the Storm/RG product lines, the PhazeII is a few bucks less, and since it is a symmetric with a very tuneable cover, it may be a good one to consider. The Dare Devil Trick has a lower RG, so it would spool up faster, but less diff, so not as strong overall as the PhazeII. Also less spendy than the top of the line right now, and until we get to hear about it, you are guessing on this one. The Torrent is also less expensive, has a proven cover that is also very workable, and the ones I have seen roll pretty darn good. The RG in the Torrent is higher, so it wouldn't pick up nearly as quick as a low RG core, but it depends on your local situation about how much oil you need the ball to handle.
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Depends, in a vacuum, no, this isn't a ball for most on real volume.
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Would you consider it a solid enough ball to where it's good in heavy oil but is also affordable given it's lack of use?
I kinda forgot to address this part of your note, which was the whole point of your post. The No Rules has been surprisingly useable for most people in my area across more conditions than I would have guessed. I do have one, and it rolls really good, and is very easy to watch as it reads the lane and goes through the pin deck.
In years past, I have struggled with most big assyms, and the NR has been a pleasant surprise for my game. I didn't care for the Hyper Cell, even after a couple different drills. I stayed away from the entire Crux line because I couldn't bring myself to spend the money on an experiment. I have found way more symmetrics that I could use as oilers than assyms over the years, but the NR may have changed that for my own personal situation. Hope this helps.
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For all we know, it could be R2S Solid on it. RG is doing names instead of numbering now and so we really don't have much to go off from.
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Depends, in a vacuum, no, this isn't a ball for most on real volume.
Interesting. Would it be the Roto Grip version of the !Q Tour Solid then? Not saying the Dare Devil Trick has to live up to that high of a standard, just wondering about the rough overall estimation of where/when it's used.
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Depends, in a vacuum, no, this isn't a ball for most on real volume.
Interesting. Would it be the Roto Grip version of the !Q Tour Solid then? Not saying the Dare Devil Trick has to live up to that high of a standard, just wondering about the rough overall estimation of where/when it's used.
Not even close to a IQT. Much stronger than that ball.
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Depends, in a vacuum, no, this isn't a ball for most on real volume.
Interesting. Would it be the Roto Grip version of the !Q Tour Solid then? Not saying the Dare Devil Trick has to live up to that high of a standard, just wondering about the rough overall estimation of where/when it's used.
Not even close to a IQT. Much stronger than that ball.
I'm going to have to study some videos of this when it comes out. I really can't figure out if it makes sense between a Rocket Ship and BW Red Legen Solid yet.
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Depends, in a vacuum, no, this isn't a ball for most on real volume.
Interesting. Would it be the Roto Grip version of the !Q Tour Solid then? Not saying the Dare Devil Trick has to live up to that high of a standard, just wondering about the rough overall estimation of where/when it's used.
Not even close to a IQT. Much stronger than that ball.
I'm going to have to study some videos of this when it comes out. I really can't figure out if it makes sense between a Rocket Ship and BW Red Legen Solid yet.
No, it doesn't.
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Depends, in a vacuum, no, this isn't a ball for most on real volume.
Interesting. Would it be the Roto Grip version of the !Q Tour Solid then? Not saying the Dare Devil Trick has to live up to that high of a standard, just wondering about the rough overall estimation of where/when it's used.
Not even close to a IQT. Much stronger than that ball.
I'm going to have to study some videos of this when it comes out. I really can't figure out if it makes sense between a Rocket Ship and BW Red Legen Solid yet.
No, it doesn't.
Well that answers that. On to other stuff. No bond had been formed so all is good.
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I'm bout to buy one. My pro shop, dude got his early trial ball. He's gonna offer it early to me cuz he don't want it
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That dont sounds too good. Makes it seem like its crap
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He's an older guy and they sent him a 15 lb ball
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Oh damn! Perfect
Let us know how u like it man
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Loving this ball so far. I kept it out of the box finish. Have it drilled the same way my no rules pearl is drilled. It covers about 3 boards more than the NRP does but is a way more rounded reaction as opposed to the NRP which drives and snaps for me.
It was pretty dry on the lanes but when it did find oil, it worked through it nicely. If you want a no rules but don't wanna spend the money, this ball isn't far off