I decided I would try out my new Epic Saga (14 lbs, 5oz before drilling) tonight in  summer league. The lanes weren't really suitable for that ball. They were on the light to medium side. Never the less I was stubborn. I only managed a couple of practice shots before starting because the thumb hole needed some work. I started off with leaving three and promptly missing the spare. The ball had more power and hook then I anticipated. Next shot was a strike. Then I left a six/ten and promptly chopped the ten pin. I followed that with an other strike and then threw a split, right on the head pin. I drilled the next shot in the pocket and left a ten pin that I missed by a whisker (I need someone to make a chia ball!). I then threw another decent ball but ended up with yet another split. So...after six frames I had two strikes and four opens. I managed to leave a seven pin on the next shot and made that. But it was clear that the Epic Saga was just too strong for the lane conditions of the night. So I switched to the Horizon and from there on I managed to bowl better the rest of the night. I bowled a 142 the first game, a 236 the second, and a 197 the third for a 575 series. Not great, not bad. Should have switched bowling balls earlier. Now..what did I learn. First of all, the Epic Saga is a powerful, aggressive bowling ball. Despite the apparent similarities in stats with the Horizon, it is a much more aggressive ball. Now...I have a relatively slow ball speed so that tends to heighten the aggressiveness of a bowling ball. I do know that with the Epic Saga I was using a 32 over 17 shot and with the Horizon I switched to a 22 over 10. Secondly, the Saga hits hard and carries well. Thirdly, it is a very "pretty" bowling ball. It is a medium to medium/heavy ball for someone with a relatively slow speed.  It will certainly be a medium for people with faster ball speed. It has a strong arc. All in all, despite my poor performance tonight, I was impressed with the Saga. I was also impressed with the Horizon. Truthfully I thought it would be too dry for the Horizon but it worked just beautifully. Learned something there tonight. Now I want to go out and practice on a bit more oil and get the hang of the Epic Saga. It's a good ball. Don't let my poor score deceive you. It was just too dry for a slower ball speed bowler to use that ball tonight.

Chuck

From the sounds of it, seems like this ball is a tad flippier than I thought it would be. Exactly how strong is the core in the saga?
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Must interject here, the Saga has the exact same core as the Epic Battle.  And judging from what I've heard so far, I can't wait to get this one.

Drilled my first one of these today, and as I havn't drilled my own yet, was looking forward to see what it did..

Unfortunatly, the lanes weren't great, but still looked good. It looked to have a very nice roll, and looked pretty stong. The guy was just throwing a few shots to try it out after drilling, and was also throwin a new Shock and Awe, and a scorching Inferno. He said he really liked the Saga and prefered it of the two new balls.

Definitly looking forward to drilling my own and getting a few videos up

Ryan

Ok I couldn't resist any longer... Drilled myself a Saga today

Took it out for a few games this evening and I was way more excited than you should ever get throwing a bowling ball!

I was getting great length and good movement off the dry on a condition where a ball has a tendancy to skid on a bit.. It revved up so fast of my hand (reminded me very much of the SSSE in that matter) and was very smooth.  I started out playing jsut inside 3rd arrow and throwing out to about 7 board at the break, shooting 218.  After a couple of games I decided to rty an extreme (for me anyway lol) outside line and moved out to arround first and was equaly impressed with it from out there.

I only had one Tap from the pocket i the 3 games (A 9-pin) and had FOUR messengers, so i'd say carry was "better than average "

Can't wait to use this more

Ryan

ok, bowled league tonight with the saga.  short and heavy house shot, drier boards 8 and out.  a little lost early and started out with 161 playing straight up the track around 8.  went deeper, swung 15 to 8 and shot 208.  went deeper, 18 to 10 and finished with 233.  not great, but ball did play deeper lines well.  will be bowling a local tourney this weekend where i have had difficulty before (synthetic heads, wood back ends).  will see how the saga looks there.

I'm still playing around with the Epic Saga. Just haven't had enough oil to use it as of yet. One thing...this ball is strong. Another thing: a couple of months ago I asked a question about the apparently similar stats between the Horizon and Epic Saga. Well....stats lie! The two balls are not really similar at all. The Saga is much stronger, meaning there is a place for both in your bag...which is a good thing since they are both wonderful bowling balls.

Chuck