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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: stormed1 on June 25, 2019, 05:16:09 PM

Title: Halo Vision
Post by: stormed1 on June 25, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Halo Vision

COLOR: Gold/Sky Blue//Purple
COVERSTOCK: eTrax-H19ô Hybrid
CORE: Centrumô
FINISH: 4000-grit Pad
REACTION: Medium Length w/ Smooth Continuous Backend
LANE CONDITION: Medium/Heavy to Heavy Oil
WEIGHTS: 12-16 lbs.
RELEASE DATE: 8/5/19
STREET DATE: 8/9/19
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: mrwizerd on June 26, 2019, 12:58:23 PM
Based on the color scheme and RG/Diff, could this be the 2nd coming of the Defiant Soul?
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: JamminJD on June 26, 2019, 01:00:01 PM
Based on the color scheme and RG/Diff, could this be the 2nd coming of the Defiant Soul?

Rinse-Repeat..
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: CoorZero on June 26, 2019, 01:01:22 PM
Based on the color scheme and RG/Diff, could this be the 2nd coming of the Defiant Soul?

Schlem said that was the goal in a couple of videos they posted on Facebook yesterday.

Now they just have to get on bringing back the Totally Defiant or something like it...
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: SVstar34 on June 26, 2019, 01:23:30 PM
Based on the color scheme and RG/Diff, could this be the 2nd coming of the Defiant Soul?

I was thinking that or the Sinister.
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: 2handedrook12 on June 26, 2019, 03:54:11 PM
Based on the color scheme and RG/Diff, could this be the 2nd coming of the Defiant Soul?
According to Schlem, that is the intent.
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: leftybowler70 on June 26, 2019, 04:18:01 PM
Definitely appears to be the 2nd coming of the Defiant Soul, loved that ball.... Excited!!!!
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on July 02, 2019, 01:01:09 PM
The Vision is stronger than the Sure Lock, which makes it the strongest ball I've ever thrown.  Whether that's a good thing for you or not, it's absolutely not remotely usable for me.  It's smoother than the PhysiX, but add like 3 or 4 boards . . it's just good old fashioned hook in a box. 
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: northface28 on July 02, 2019, 02:08:57 PM
The Vision is stronger than the Sure Lock, which makes it the strongest ball I've ever thrown.  Whether that's a good thing for you or not, it's absolutely not remotely usable for me.  It's smoother than the PhysiX, but add like 3 or 4 boards . . it's just good old fashioned hook in a box. 


Pass.
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: bowler100 on July 02, 2019, 02:18:53 PM
The Vision is stronger than the Sure Lock, which makes it the strongest ball I've ever thrown.  Whether that's a good thing for you or not, it's absolutely not remotely usable for me.  It's smoother than the PhysiX, but add like 3 or 4 boards . . it's just good old fashioned hook in a box.
Stronger than the Sure Lock in oil or on the backend?
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on July 02, 2019, 02:36:09 PM
Probably really really close on oil, within a board, two max, and more on the backend, so aggregate it's 1-2 boards more, so realistically it's a very small amount, won't be noticeable for most, but I've never struggled like this to get a ball down the lane, and when we're talking about comparisons to a ball like the Sure Lock, that much hook or even a smidge more is crazy. 

The Vision is stronger than the Sure Lock, which makes it the strongest ball I've ever thrown.  Whether that's a good thing for you or not, it's absolutely not remotely usable for me.  It's smoother than the PhysiX, but add like 3 or 4 boards . . it's just good old fashioned hook in a box.
Stronger than the Sure Lock in oil or on the backend?
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: bowlingman817 on July 02, 2019, 04:44:50 PM
What is the out of box surface? Roto Website says 4000 grit but Shlem quoted it as being 2000 grit during bowl expo live stream.
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on July 03, 2019, 08:40:43 AM
Website is wrong, it's DEFINITELY 2000

What is the out of box surface? Roto Website says 4000 grit but Shlem quoted it as being 2000 grit during bowl expo live stream.
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: AlonzoHarris on July 07, 2019, 03:54:03 PM
The Vision is stronger than the Sure Lock, which makes it the strongest ball I've ever thrown.  Whether that's a good thing for you or not, it's absolutely not remotely usable for me.  It's smoother than the PhysiX, but add like 3 or 4 boards . . it's just good old fashioned hook in a box.

Hmm interesting that this is the profile this cover projects. I expected different. Less traction in the mids and more friction response.
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on July 09, 2019, 11:01:14 PM
Of course this might be one of those balls thatís nuts for me but everyone else loves it like the Super Son!Q. I canít throw that stupid thing but it looks good for most everyone else. I canít get the Vision down the lane either so I guess that means itíll be popular . .

The Vision is stronger than the Sure Lock, which makes it the strongest ball I've ever thrown.  Whether that's a good thing for you or not, it's absolutely not remotely usable for me.  It's smoother than the PhysiX, but add like 3 or 4 boards . . it's just good old fashioned hook in a box.

Hmm interesting that this is the profile this cover projects. I expected different. Less traction in the mids and more friction response.
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: SprayNpray on July 10, 2019, 06:07:17 PM
Yeah man it is all relative.  My house shot is 39 ft and 29 ml.  We are in AZ, so the shot plays super slick to start, then transitions at lightning speed due to the desert climate.

Many nights I start out with the Sure Lock and end with the Hyroad or a weak pearl.  By the 3rd game.

We have several touring pros and some top regional players in our house all the time and they pretty much all start out on the house shot with the big balls because it is so hard to get anything to read on fresh.  The mechanic puts an oob outside 4 or so so it plays pretty tight for a house shot.

Your words about the Halo Vision tell me it is going to fit our house shot very well.  Btw SuperSoniq for me in that house is an amazing matchup.

People too easily forget that what is true for one person about a ball may be entirely different for another person based on a million variables.
Title: Re: Halo Vision
Post by: Matt C on August 08, 2019, 09:15:00 AM
Picked up a Vision for my son for Sport shot tournaments.

16mph off hand.  275ish revs.

Unlike his Super Soniq which hits the mids then just pukes.. the Vision does as advertised.  Decent length with a very aggressive back end motion.  Just what he needed for the longer sports patterns that he typically struggles on

Luke and others have mentioned that there is no way the cover is 4k, but his didnt have that real chalky look.. and after 2 or 3 games it looked more like 4k.