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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: tburky on June 11, 2017, 01:25:25 PM
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any info ;D
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yup saw dat 👀
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the name makes me think of this: http://www.rotogrip.com/international/firecell
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Guess the pearl version would be called Cold Cell...if the Hot Cell is a solid.
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Guess the pearl version would be called Cold Cell...if the Hot Cell is a solid.
hybrid (?) since they are releasing the no rules exist as another hp4 solid?
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I would assume that the Hot Cell is going to come with surface OOB since the No RUles Pearl and supposedly the No Rules Exist are polished. That should mean it's a solid or hybrid cover, and with two solids already in that line a hybrid makes the most sense.
So a hybrid with surface OOB. Just don't know how strong of a cover it is though, that makes all the difference. Would be interesting to see if it's way up there and Roto Grip's version of the Gauntlet/ Inception Redux. Don't really need another mid/low range high-end ball with the No Rules Pearl and No Rules Exist (assuming what we think we know about the latter is true).
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Maybe a fall release as all others were officially announced today and this wasn't?
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Maybe a fall release as all others were officially announced today and this wasn't?
Storm/Roto always seem to announce at Bowl Expo
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It's a pure urethane cover without the additives and with the Nucleus core.
http://www.rotogrip.com/balls/hotcell
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Crazy, but I love it. Roto Grip is swinging for the fences with this one.
Putting a urethane cover on a strong, asymmetrical core has been done before though right? Probably before my time as closely following equipment (or just being alive) but it has have been attempted. And with none of them out at the moment my guess is it didn't go well. Maybe the "new" urethane being used these days is more receptive to these kinds of cores.
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Roto does have something similar as an international release I think. The Fame/U.
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https://youtu.be/BtDi9ffpKSg Fame U. I bowled a tournament with a guy using the Fame U on the pairs before me (I followed him after each game). I'm really excited to see this ball come to the US! Also, has anyone seen the Visionary Crow in action? It's not asymmetric, but a much stronger symmetrical core compared to ehat we usually see. I think it could be a difference maker given the similar concept. The Crow would sell way more if it had a bolt or star on it.
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I'm calling too much core. I'm speaking from experience
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I'm calling too much core. I'm speaking from experience
Details. Which ball? What was your experience with it? Go all Paul Harvey on us.
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See Hype urethane. http://123bowl.com/bowling-balls/amf/hype-black/
2.55 0.051 sanded to 4000. Tried 2, and it was stupid how much that ball flared. The first one drilled 60*4.5*30 was too much if I used it too close to the friction , and not enough if you moved in. Second one was 45*5*65 with a hole on my pap. Ball hooked at the dots no matter what.
Now, same cover on my Booyah, same layout as my first Hype, and the Booyah is infinitely better than the Hype. Core numbers on the Booyah? 2.62 0.026 and the cover is at 1000.
I don't think many people will be able to use it unless it's a "urethane" like the Blue Hammer.
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Jesper Svensson will be in his glory
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Jesper Svensson will be in his glory
Lol. He probably already drilled at least 4
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$170 for a urethane ball...pass.
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Ish getting RIDICULOUS. $170.00 for a urethane? Somebody please explain this one to me as I am anew bowler. Isn't urethane dam near a plastic ball?
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Wasn't going to say it but since it's already being said the hp2 like went up $16 as well...$94 for a wreck Em and now the show off will be $110
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Storm's prices went up about that much. Makes sense. You're number 1 in sales, why not bump the price up?
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I, too, am surprised at the price point for the Hot Cell. Is it reasonable pricing, or an overreach? I guess we will know more as the first reviews and videos come out from the people we consider to be trusted sources.
For those of you old enough to remember, when the Quantum balls were first released, it was a restricted distribution through authorized pro shops and a $200 price per ball. It was an eye popping number at the time, and yet they sold quite well. Not everybody bought one. I'm sure many people at that time felt the way that many bowlers feel now about pricing, and they voted with their wallets.
Nothing has really changed. Voting with your wallet is still the easiest way to deliver a message to any industry, and you don't have to lodge a complaint to do it.
I totally get what the problem is as a consumer. It is a pretty good chunk of change to risk on buying a new ball, and nobody is directly guaranteeing you any satisfaction with it's reaction or ability to score. I would hope your pro shop operator is doing his/her best to fit your needs to a ball that will work best for you, but it is still a risk you take.
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Ish getting RIDICULOUS. $170.00 for a urethane? Somebody please explain this one to me as I am anew bowler. Isn't urethane dam near a plastic ball?
Only if you really flatten your hand out at spares. But in that case just about every ball is going to be somewhat similar. If you're throwing a urethane and plastic normally the reactions are much different.
Yeah I'm not feeling the Hot Cell at a premium price. Not a surprise since it's in the HP4 line, but still seems over the top.
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As for the price on the urethane....can't speak to the change in pricing for any other ball or line...if the ball is pure urethane, the lines and tanks have to be cleaned prior to the run to ensure there is no residual resin left from any previous pours. This is extra work and an extra expense that is not incurred on pouring other covers.....
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This ball says puke early on toast to me.Unless you bowl on lots of short patterns why waste the cash.My plastic with core Spare plus does fine on 32 34 35ft patterns when it gets tough and is a great for spares.Sooner or later everybody will wake up.170$ for urethane is this a joke?
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I remember purchasing the original Black Hammer around 1989-1990? Couldn't believe it was $100. Bowling ball pricing seems to go up much slower than other sporting goods though so thankfully we aren't paying $400 for a new high performance ball.
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I remember purchasing the original Black Hammer around 1989-1990? Couldn't believe it was $100. Bowling ball pricing seems to go up much slower than other sporting goods though so thankfully we aren't paying $400 for a new high performance ball.
Shhh, Lane 1 is listening!!
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Seems like the 309$ difference put lane 1 just about out of business.Or are they out of business.Not heard any new stuff from them.No more use than you get out of urethane needs plastic ball pricing if you ask me.
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Lane 1 customer service was crap when i ordered simple Secret Sauce ball polish. Its been 4 months now and still no product. The $300+ bowling balls they try to sell are ridiculously priced. Sure they sold some to their faithfuls and staffers. Just like Lordfield/Lane Masters, i dont know of anyone other than their own staffers throwing their stuff.