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Title: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: addynyr on July 26, 2021, 09:21:53 AM
The New Hustle Camo is the newest "solid" ball in the HP1 line. The Hustle Camo brings back the VTC solid reactive Coverstock to bring the ball more durability and more performance down lane as seen in previous Hustle line balls. The new army/black/brown color gives respect to our service men and women.  These colors will definitely pop out for those who are a veteran or currently serving our country. The layout I gave on this was 3 3/8 x 70 to give this ball earlier motion on the lanes then the 4 x 35 drilling currently on my Hustle PBR. This ball can be great for fresh house patterns or tournaments with shorter oil or less volume patterns.  The 1500 polish finish on this Camo is different from the 3000 abralon finish on the PBR.  This surface difference will give the ball a little more length while adding slightly more pop down lane than the PBR.   Removing the polish or adding more surface to the coverstock will enhance its more earlier rolling nature if you want it to handle more oil. 

Adam Chase
Storm Staff
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 26, 2021, 09:33:53 AM
The New Hustle Camo is the newest "solid" ball in the HP1 line. The Hustle Camo brings back the VTC solid reactive Coverstock to bring the ball more durability and more performance down lane as seen in previous Hustle line balls. The new army/black/brown color gives respect to our service men and women.  These colors will definitely pop out for those who are a veteran or currently serving our country. The layout I gave on this was 3 3/8 x 70 to give this ball earlier motion on the lanes then the 4 x 35 drilling currently on my Hustle PBR. This ball can be great for fresh house patterns or tournaments with shorter oil or less volume patterns.  The 1500 polish finish on this Camo is different from the 3000 abralon finish on the PBR.  This surface difference will give the ball a little more length while adding slightly more pop down lane than the PBR.   Removing the polish or adding more surface to the coverstock will enhance its more earlier rolling nature if you want it to handle more oil. 

Adam Chase
Storm Staff

Wow!  This just makes me want to rush out and get one (sarcasm off).  You can do better than this.
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: jimjames on July 26, 2021, 11:12:34 AM
Actually this little piece of "dripping" sarcasm surprises me, but whatever I suppose.  ??? To each their own.  ::)
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 26, 2021, 11:23:58 AM
Actually this little piece of "dripping" sarcasm surprises me, but whatever I suppose.  ??? To each their own.  ::)

Sorry Jim.  I just hate when people post a "review" and tell us absolutely nothing about it.  I dont want to know what a ball "can do".  Post what it actually does.  This is a "I just want to be the first person to review this" review like it is a race or something.  I guess when I see someone is a staff guy I guess I expect more from them.  After all, they are the ones promoting the balls to help generate sales.  I am not on any staff and yet this is my review by comparison.

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Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: leftybowler70 on July 26, 2021, 12:43:35 PM
Well said TwoHands, this is how a review SHOULD be done.  8)
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: jimjames on July 26, 2021, 01:17:51 PM
Actually this little piece of "dripping" sarcasm surprises me, but whatever I suppose.  ??? To each their own.  ::)

Sorry Jim.  I just hate when people post a "review" and tell us absolutely nothing about it.  I dont want to know what a ball "can do".  Post what it actually does.  This is a "I just want to be the first person to review this" review like it is a race or something.  I guess when I see someone is a staff guy I guess I expect more from them.  After all, they are the ones promoting the balls to help generate sales.  I am not on any staff and yet this is my review by comparison.

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Not really a problem, I can assure you. Was caught off guard so to speak. Old school here. Carry on.  ;)
Title: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: fazzone22 on July 27, 2021, 09:01:47 PM

The Hustle line has been a staple in Roto Grip’s arsenal for a few years one. Hustle core has an RG of 2.53 and Diff of 0.030 and is a cool looking Army/Black/Brown color giving it the Camo look it’s called. It is the solid shinny version of the VTC cover. I drilled mine 6 x 5.5 x 2 and my purpose behind this was to give me a higher RG layout on a ball I intend to use on shorter patterns after the lanes transition from urethane. After throwing is ball for a little while I was quite impressed. I was able to move in on a shorter pattern and throw it towards the gutter and it never overrated. It was clean through the front part of the lane but pretty smooth on the back. I will be able use this ball mostly on shorter patterns after urethane is exhausted and maybe on some medium length patterns that don’t have a ton of volume to them. 
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: northface28 on July 28, 2021, 07:05:39 PM
The New Hustle Camo is the newest "solid" ball in the HP1 line. The Hustle Camo brings back the VTC solid reactive Coverstock to bring the ball more durability and more performance down lane as seen in previous Hustle line balls. The new army/black/brown color gives respect to our service men and women.  These colors will definitely pop out for those who are a veteran or currently serving our country. The layout I gave on this was 3 3/8 x 70 to give this ball earlier motion on the lanes then the 4 x 35 drilling currently on my Hustle PBR. This ball can be great for fresh house patterns or tournaments with shorter oil or less volume patterns.  The 1500 polish finish on this Camo is different from the 3000 abralon finish on the PBR.  This surface difference will give the ball a little more length while adding slightly more pop down lane than the PBR.   Removing the polish or adding more surface to the coverstock will enhance its more earlier rolling nature if you want it to handle more oil. 

Adam Chase
Storm Staff

Wow!  This just makes me want to rush out and get one (sarcasm off).  You can do better than this.

Let’s put an outdated short pin layout on it like it’s 1992. Get over yourself.
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 29, 2021, 07:10:47 AM
The New Hustle Camo is the newest "solid" ball in the HP1 line. The Hustle Camo brings back the VTC solid reactive Coverstock to bring the ball more durability and more performance down lane as seen in previous Hustle line balls. The new army/black/brown color gives respect to our service men and women.  These colors will definitely pop out for those who are a veteran or currently serving our country. The layout I gave on this was 3 3/8 x 70 to give this ball earlier motion on the lanes then the 4 x 35 drilling currently on my Hustle PBR. This ball can be great for fresh house patterns or tournaments with shorter oil or less volume patterns.  The 1500 polish finish on this Camo is different from the 3000 abralon finish on the PBR.  This surface difference will give the ball a little more length while adding slightly more pop down lane than the PBR.   Removing the polish or adding more surface to the coverstock will enhance its more earlier rolling nature if you want it to handle more oil. 

Adam Chase
Storm Staff

Wow!  This just makes me want to rush out and get one (sarcasm off).  You can do better than this.

Let’s put an outdated short pin layout on it like it’s 1992. Get over yourself.

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.  I even noted that I was sarcastic.  Whats wrong with you and since when are short pin layouts outdated?  Other than you, who made that determination?  It would be one thing if this was an average league bowler that wasnt well versed in giving reviews but this is a staff guy.  So as someone who takes the sport a little more seriously; I would like to know more about what the ball actually did and not what it can do because we pretty much already know what it can do.  AND....as someone who comes on here and helps others regularly; I am well beyond "myself". 
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: MANCSTORM on August 26, 2021, 07:03:17 AM
I'm a big fan of the PBR and the Camo is a perfect shined compliment to it. The Hustle line really shines for me on older surfaces. The PBR is many times the 1st ball out of the bag on them. When the PBR starts to read a little early the Camo fits perfectly behind it. Cleaner threw the front and sharper in the back make it absolutely perfect.
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: milorafferty on August 26, 2021, 11:58:21 AM
The New Hustle Camo is the newest "solid" ball in the HP1 line. The Hustle Camo brings back the VTC solid reactive Coverstock to bring the ball more durability and more performance down lane as seen in previous Hustle line balls. The new army/black/brown color gives respect to our service men and women.  These colors will definitely pop out for those who are a veteran or currently serving our country. The layout I gave on this was 3 3/8 x 70 to give this ball earlier motion on the lanes then the 4 x 35 drilling currently on my Hustle PBR. This ball can be great for fresh house patterns or tournaments with shorter oil or less volume patterns.  The 1500 polish finish on this Camo is different from the 3000 abralon finish on the PBR.  This surface difference will give the ball a little more length while adding slightly more pop down lane than the PBR.   Removing the polish or adding more surface to the coverstock will enhance its more earlier rolling nature if you want it to handle more oil. 

Adam Chase
Storm Staff

Wow!  This just makes me want to rush out and get one (sarcasm off).  You can do better than this.

Let’s put an outdated short pin layout on it like it’s 1992. Get over yourself.

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.  I even noted that I was sarcastic.  Whats wrong with you and since when are short pin layouts outdated?  Other than you, who made that determination?  It would be one thing if this was an average league bowler that wasnt well versed in giving reviews but this is a staff guy.  So as someone who takes the sport a little more seriously; I would like to know more about what the ball actually did and not what it can do because we pretty much already know what it can do.  AND....as someone who comes on here and helps others regularly; I am well beyond "myself". 

Just to throw a little more fuel on this burning feud(cause that's how I roll  ;D ), I know quite a few "staffers" in my area who couldn't accurately describe the virtues of a bowling ball if their life depended on it.


One thing is for sure, being "on staff" doesn't mean shit about the persons knowledge of bowling balls or even bowling in general.


And yes, I have made critical comments on reviews that were just ridiculous, because hypocrisy, when it suits me, is also how I roll.  :o ;D ;D [/size][size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: Jesse James on August 26, 2021, 12:26:57 PM


Just to throw a little more fuel on this burning feud(cause that's how I roll  ;D ), I know quite a few "staffers" in my area who couldn't accurately describe the virtues of a bowling ball if their life depended on it.


One thing is for sure, being "on staff" doesn't mean shit about the persons knowledge of bowling balls or even bowling in general.


And yes, I have made critical comments on reviews that were just ridiculous, because hypocrisy, when it suits me, is also how I roll.  :o ;D ;D [/size][size=78%] [/size]
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Milo! Milo! Milo! You are in a class of your own for sure....but you ain't never lied! Too funny! The Hustle line has turned into a Do It All-Universal line used by entry levelers and Pros alike. A very useful one that they have!
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: Juggernaut on August 27, 2021, 12:44:14 PM
“STAFF”

Means absolutely ZERO.

 Guy here had the shop for a while. Averaged about a buck eighty, but was “on staff”.

It’s not based on talent, it’s based on your ability to move units (sell stuff ).
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: TonyMarino on August 30, 2021, 10:46:56 AM
Hustle CAMO:
The best value line in bowling keeps getting better! The CAMO is made up of the Hustle core with an RG of 2.53 and a diff of 0.030, wrapped in a polished VTC Solid cover.

If you were someone who missed out on drilling the Hustle INK, then here is the closest thing you can find in the current line. Because of the finish of the VTC cover, the CAMO has good length for a solid ball. I would categorize the backend shape as medium-to-med/fast response and medium strength. Dollar for dollar you will not find a better value than the Hustle line. This ball has earned a spot in my tournament bag.
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: MSUHoss300 on October 18, 2021, 01:53:08 PM
Hustle Camo
35 x 4.25 x 10

The Hustle Camo is a perfect replacement for the Ink.  It is very clean through the front but doesn't over-bounce off of the friction.  It makes a smooth, controllable, yet continuous ball motion once it sees friction.  Don't be afraid to get the surface matched up to how you bowl and the amount of friction in your bowling center.  This ball for me is a nice compliment to the PBR, if that one gets too early and lazy, this one I'm able to pick up where I left off.  Another hit for Roto Grip!
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: Kyle.Johnson88 on October 19, 2021, 11:39:39 AM
Ball Specs:
Roto Grip Hustle CAMO
1500 VTCâ„¢ Solid Reactive
Weight Block: Hustleâ„¢ (Symmetrical)
Color: Army/Black/Brown

Review:
There is NO reason to not love this ball. It caters to literally every bowler in the world, regardless of skill level and is priced so reasonably that its worth its weight in gold. For the seasoned veterans you can expect an extremely versatile low end solid, something to keep playing the right part of the lane even late in a block. For the novice bowler you can expect great value in your purchase, getting a great piece of equipment for pennies over an entry level reactive bowling ball. The color options also appeal to novice bowlers who may care more about color than performance. The trusted Hustle core is in many bowling record books for a reason, it’s just that good.

Kyle & Joel Johnson
Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff Members
joel@parklanes.net
kyle@parklanes.net
www.rotogrip.com
#SquadRG
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: hammermike2000 on October 22, 2021, 01:08:05 PM
Layout: 60 x 1 1/2” x 30

The Hustle Camo reminds my of one of my favorite Roto Grip balls of all time, the Hustle Ink.  Both the Ink and the Camo have an uncanny combination of length, mid lane and back end roll, and control. Just like I did with a couple Inks, I drilled my Camo with a short pin to p.a.p. length to help enhance the control that these balls have. What I ended up with is a ball that has enough length through the fronts to use it on drier lanes, but a ball that has enough midlane to where I could use it on anything less than fresh heavy oil. It is shocking how good this ball is at an entry-level price. I would label the ball reaction as a smooth, consistent heavy roll.

ML
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: cmattingly on October 25, 2021, 08:38:33 AM
I am a HUGE fan of the Hustle line. The Hustle INK has gone with me to every tournament for a few years now.  The PBR helped me control backends last year with the sanded solid cover.  The Camo has a similar motion as the PBR only cleaner and a bit quicker off the dry.  I say similar because my PBR, as of late, has quite a bit of lane shine to it.  The Camo seems to be the answer to the INK going away.  I am already a fan as we bowl on wood lanes here at my center. 

My layout is 50x4.25x65

Balls that are currently in the bag:
Zen- 50x4.25x65
UFO Alert-50x5x65
Dark Code- 50x4.25x65
Zen Master-50x4.75x30
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on November 07, 2021, 08:06:49 PM
The Hustle Camo features the VTC Solid coverstock and Hustle core, which comes in at a 2.53 RG and .030 differential in 15 pounds.  It’s a rolly, light to medium oil ball that controls the lane a lot like an IQ, just a bit weaker.  The Hustles have been popular because they’re a triple threat, they’re versatile, they fit the majority of regular league shots really well, and they’re way cheaper than they should be.  The Camo brings a bit of the balance back to the line, the PBR before it isn’t too far off a Phaze 2, which is insane back for the buck, but doesn’t quite fit what you’re expecting from a ball marketed as light to medium.  The Camo is easy length with a rolly shape, and a firm continuous motion on the backend.  It’s going to fit the majority of bowlers well, and even if it’s not a first ball out of the bag for league, it’s a great step down for game 2 or 3, and I think will play well on tougher patterns also. 
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: Rick K on November 07, 2021, 08:46:39 PM
Hustle Camo • Performance Line • HP1
Coverstock • VTC Solid Reactive Finish • 1500-grit, Polished
Core •Hustle Symmetric
Weight 15lb •RG 2.53 •Differential 0.030
Layout • 70 x 4 x 20
Tester PAP = 4 ½ R x 3/8 D • Tester Axis Tilt = 12° •Testers Rev Rate = 325
Test Pattern = 42’ THS (Typical House Shot) • Modified, Kegel Stone Street

When Roto Grip released the Hustle line of bowling balls, they delivered an industry standard for level one or entry-level bowling balls. With the release of the Hustle Wine and Hustle Camo, that industry-standard has elevated to an even higher standard. So let’s take a closer look at the Hustle Camo and how it rolled on a THS.

Initially developed in the Hustle INK, the Hustle Core is a well-rounded and smooth-rolling core. This ball has a low/medium RG and low/medium differential – meaning the Hustle Core is stable as it rolls in the front part of the lane. And that roll creates a predictable motion you can depend on when the ball makes its turn to the pocket. As a result, this core is excellent for beginner bowlers learning to understand skid, hook, and roll. For the seasoned bowler, the Hustle Core provides a stable, sweeping motion when those more expensive cores are just too much to handle.

The VTC (Vertical Traction Control) Solid Reactive cover with its US Army color scheme is a tribute to our servicemen and women. And this tribute VTC Solid Reactive cover makes the Camo an excellent choice for many styles of bowlers. The 1500 Polished surface was very clean through the heads for a polished solid, but I found it a bit “jumpy” off the pattern. So, I cut the cover with a 2000-grit Abralon pad before a league night, and the results were impressive. This surface adjustment gave the Camo a stronger bite through the heads in the fresh oil and left a good amount of torque to provide a crisp turn off the pattern. As the night played on, this solid reactive cover continued to offer a well-defined skid, hook, and roll motion while retaining a substantial impact at the pins. Hands down, the VTC Solid Reactive cover is an excellent choice for new bowlers and excels for players who love that down-and-in shot!

Whether you are a new bowler or a seasoned “veteran,” the Hustle Camo has a place in your arsenal.  Straighter players will find the Hustle Camo will give them the reliability they depend on to keep that down-and-in motion striking all night. And for the advanced bowler, the Camo will provide you with that late-night blend and consistency when all your high-end balls are too much to get the job done. So, I would suggest you consider a Hustle Camo for your arsenal and have a talk with your local pro shop owner and find a place to put it in your bag!

Rick Klimowicz
Storm Products Pro Shop Staff
Roll the Ball Pro shop
Penndel, PA
Title: Roto Grip Hustle Camo Review
Post by: StormRoto on November 14, 2021, 05:31:06 PM
The Roto grip Hustle Camo features the VTC Solid coverstock and Hustle core. The new Camo has great shelf appeal! 
Let's just say I am a huge fan of the RG Hustle line. To me the Hustle line is more bang for you buck.  The Camo is no different. I drilled mine Pin up above middle which is a 5 inch pin. I loved the Hustle PBR.  But the Camo is a little cleaner and little more pop downlane.  I think the Camo rolls a little like the Hustle Ink. Where I can get as deep as I want on the lane and still be able to shape the ball well enough to strike even with a weaker core numbers wise (.030).  I think the Camo is going to be very popular ball in the Hustle line.

Brian Watson
Storm Pro Shop Staff

PAP  - 4 up 1/8
RPM - 400
Tilt - 17
Speed 16-17
 
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: Gil B on November 19, 2021, 08:30:17 AM
If you were a fan of the Hustle Ink like i was then this is a match for you . The Hustle Camo features the VTC coverstock. The ball motion on this ball is a little stronger for me than the ink but also very predictable and very smooth. League bowlers on lower volume house shots this ball would be a money make in your bag.
Title: Re: Hustle Camo Review
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 30, 2021, 11:42:52 AM
LANE CONDITION

Length: Approx. 42 feet

Volume: Medium with very strong backends

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

Likes: Easy length, doesn't over-react to friction

Dislikes: None so far


PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS



All three of the newer Hustles (PBR, Camo, and Wine) intrigued me, so when I had the chance to pick up a barely-used Camo for next to nothing, I jumped at it. I went with a 5 x 4.5 x 4.5 layout, which puts the pin below my bridge with the cg kicked slightly right. I have stuck with the box surface (for now).

My first impression of the Camo is that it's exactly what I hoped it would be. I wanted a ball that gets through the fronts easily yet doesn't go sideways off the spot down lane. That's what I'm seeing. The Camo definitely hasn't shown any signs of wanting to read too early, and it rolls off the friction to the right instead of bouncing off of it.

For me, this ball will be great for staying further to the right and keeping my angles fairly closed down when I want/need to. This is a nice tool to have as sometimes it's better to stay straight as opposed to getting deep and wheeling on it.

Now, obviously, I picked a very smooth layout for this, so others may find the ball more responsive to friction, especially bowlers with really big rev rates. Long story short, I think that the Camo is versatile and can provide a lot of different shapes depending on the bowler's wants/needs.

For the price, you really can't go wrong with the Camo. The PBR, Camo, and Wine could be a spectacular three-ball league arsenal for anyone who wanted to carry three balls. Also, I could see each of those finding a slot in a tournament bag as long as you know when/how to deploy each one. Roto has a really nice thing going with these Hustles.