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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: Metal_rules on January 03, 2015, 08:01:07 PM
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I have using the Hyper Cell now for just about a year. I will have the Skid on 1/6. and I am hoping for a future Hyper Cell with a hybrid cover. I wonder what idea Roto Grip has to better this ball. IMO I can't see a solid with the cage core being as good? The way the H/C hits with the power continuous drive, that most of the time slaps out the 10. So how can you better this ball? Only time will tell, but if the H/C ever becomes discontinued, I will make sure I have a few stashed away!
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You must have a lot more oil than we do in this area
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Maybe we do have a little more oil, or maybe its because I play more down and in with more speed? Whatever it is the H/C works for me. I rarely get to use my Uproar.
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I'm a believer in the sinister. I'd expect a solid sinister, IF they are sticking around with it.
My HC and sinister make a great 1/2 punch especially if you bowl on synthetics and want to stay assym...
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I'm a believer in the sinister. I'd expect a solid sinister, IF they are sticking around with it.
My HC and sinister make a great 1/2 punch especially if you bowl on synthetics and want to stay assym...
Sometimes I have trouble with my Sinister not finishing strong enough ( flat 10's) and then sometimes its perfect. Of course it depends on the lane condition. I believe with the Skid I will have exactly what I need!
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I had a HC I drilled 90/3.25/40 that I added a P3 to. I never really threw it because the layout was a bad match for me.
Then I got the Skid 2 weeks ago. Went 55/5/70. Absolute monster!!!! Scary strong on house shots.
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I'm a believer in the sinister. I'd expect a solid sinister, IF they are sticking around with it.
My HC and sinister make a great 1/2 punch especially if you bowl on synthetics and want to stay assym...
Sometimes I have trouble with my Sinister not finishing strong enough ( flat 10's) and then sometimes its perfect. Of course it depends on the lane condition. I believe with the Skid I will have exactly what I need!
I know exactly what you mean, I have to ensure that the sinister get into a roll. I struggle when I get too fast and the ball comes in the pocket behind headpin. I have found if I do my best to slow everything down, it rolls better than everything I have...which is a lot to choose from. I have set it before the 'weak' attributes of this ball make it unique. Its like its r2s with an asymmetric core. I love it!
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I'm a believer in the sinister. I'd expect a solid sinister, IF they are sticking around with it.
My HC and sinister make a great 1/2 punch especially if you bowl on synthetics and want to stay assym...
Sometimes I have trouble with my Sinister not finishing strong enough ( flat 10's) and then sometimes its perfect. Of course it depends on the lane condition. I believe with the Skid I will have exactly what I need!
I know exactly what you mean, I have to ensure that the sinister get into a roll. I struggle when I get too fast and the ball comes in the pocket behind headpin. I have found if I do my best to slow everything down, it rolls better than everything I have...which is a lot to choose from. I have set it before the 'weak' attributes of this ball make it unique. Its like its r2s with an asymmetric core. I love it!
Spot on, if the Sinister does not get into it's roll, it seems to deflect more and not drive, and when playing a touch softer does tend to help. I prefer to roll the ball with more speed. When I try to open the lanes up I tend to be a bit more erratic, because its not my A game. That's why I believe the Skid will match up better for me.
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Metal rules: did you get your skid yet???
I'd like to know how it is drilled along with the orig HC and how different they are for you. I'm really thinking about buying another HC and making sure I nail the layout!!!
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Metal rules: did you get your skid yet???
I'd like to know how it is drilled along with the orig HC and how different they are for you. I'm really thinking about buying another HC and making sure I nail the layout!!!
My pops and I should be getting them maybe Friday. Can't wait!
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You will love it I'm confident of that!!!!!
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Oh ya I got it, can I say ball of the year already! This ball is so smooth through the heads then has a strong move that drives through the deck. I don't have exact numbers for my layouts, so I will try to explain them instead. I am r/h. First the Solid Hyper Cell. The weight on this ball is 15.3 with 2.96 top. It has a 3.5 - 4 inch pin. The mass bias or psa is about 1 3/8 to the right of where the pin and the cg line up. I have the pin above the ring, but not directly under the pin, shifted to the left about a 1/2 inch. My thumb is 3.5 inches from the psa. So my guess on the layout is 4x2 3/4 x 2 with a balance hole 2.5 inches to the right of the c/g.---------------------------- Now the Skid -- weight is 15.2 --top 2.17 it also has a 3.5 to 4 inch pin. Now the mass bias or psa is about 3/4 of an inch to the left of where the pin and the c/g line up. I have the pin over the ring (same as solid).My thumb is 2 1/4 inches from the psa. So my guess is 4 x 3.5 x 2 with a balance hole 2.5 inches to the right of the c/g. All I can say is the layout works. The Skid clears the heads with ease then just comes back with a really STRONG move. Now IMO, I have to keep my speed up, I cant get soft or it will flip sooner. I absolutely love this ball! Once in a while you just match up with core and cover, at least I have. I have extra confidence when I use this ball. It has my vote for ball of the year. YES ITS THAT GOOD!
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Woowoo, can't wait.
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Ball of the year ..............
Wait,I thought the candy cane vibe was the ball of the year 😣
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My team mate won a ball in a raffle and he got the hyper cell skid. what a beast!
This guy usually hooks it between 5-7 boards as he is up the back of the ball. This thing had him swinging the ball out to five which he never had to do before. His expression was priceless as he stood at his normal spot he throws and the Skid proceeded to dive for the seven pin.
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I've always been a fan of the Cell line. It just seems that regardless of style, that proven Nucleus core seems to match up really well and give some versatility. Between the Hyper Cell and the Skid, I could see the Skid potentially being ball of the year. Pearl cover along with a heavy rolling core that still gives continuous motion is a winner.
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I've always been a fan of the Cell line. It just seems that regardless of style, that proven Nucleus core seems to match up really well and give some versatility. Between the Hyper Cell and the Skid, I could see the Skid potentially being ball of the year. Pearl cover along with a heavy rolling core that still gives continuous motion is a winner.
It is definitely a nice ball, between that ball and the Hysteria, you can cover a whole lot of conditions. Well, except for last night when the center decided to oil the lanes with a faulty machine that leaks cleaner while oiling, what we had was an oil/cleaner hybrid concoction that was horrific for all involved.
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I've always been a fan of the Cell line. It just seems that regardless of style, that proven Nucleus core seems to match up really well and give some versatility. Between the Hyper Cell and the Skid, I could see the Skid potentially being ball of the year. Pearl cover along with a heavy rolling core that still gives continuous motion is a winner.
It is definitely a nice ball, between that ball and the Hysteria, you can cover a whole lot of conditions. Well, except for last night when the center decided to oil the lanes with a faulty machine that leaks cleaner while oiling, what we had was an oil/cleaner hybrid concoction that was horrific for all involved.
Sounds like the first 3 weeks of my league last year where we had some really interesting patterns out. Turns out the machine was putting out double the volume along with a bit of cleaner at the same time. That was the only time I ever had to sand my Defiant down to 500. Usually that stays at 2000 or 3000.
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I have the answer! When they 'properly' do critical theory/lucid/crux/sinister version of the Cell!!! (The rogue doesn't count!!!!!) That will be the king of them all! The cores on all of the others aforementioned, are no where near as good as the nucleus!!!!
You know it, the American People know it, Bob Dole knows it! Haha.
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@northface - yeah that was a blast - always love seeing a decent thrown shot backup into the 3/6 pin on ths. 10:1 odds they'll "fix" the machine, and it'll be worse next thursday. can't wait.
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I've always been a fan of the Cell line. It just seems that regardless of style, that proven Nucleus core seems to match up really well and give some versatility. Between the Hyper Cell and the Skid, I could see the Skid potentially being ball of the year. Pearl cover along with a heavy rolling core that still gives continuous motion is a winner.
It is definitely a nice ball, between that ball and the Hysteria, you can cover a whole lot of conditions. Well, except for last night when the center decided to oil the lanes with a faulty machine that leaks cleaner while oiling, what we had was an oil/cleaner hybrid concoction that was horrific for all involved.
5 bucks says we bowl at the same center!!!!! Totally sounds like my alley except it would take them entire week to figure out what went wrong or longer. Like a league meeting to 'go to another center' meeting! Haha
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With my Hyper Cell - Hyper Cell Skid - Sinister being my main line up, I have a arsenal that just kicks the crap out of anyone else! ( unless they have a ROTO line up as well) -- then when the lanes brake down further I will go to either my Uproar or my Rising Star. Now that I have had the Skid for over a week, I have learned when I can use it, and when I need to change. The back end movement on the Skid is simply just unbelievable! So far this ball has impressed me the most out of any ball that I have ever had. If you want a strong back end ball, get a Skid! 8)
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I love my hyper cell but rarely do I get to use it. Its probably the heaviest rolling ball I've ever owned. I love the hit and carry of this thing, but I was also thinking of getting a skid to see if its just as good and better suited for more of the in between conditions. The past couple seasons though Hammer has been real good to me..more specifically the jet black taboo and the absolut flip. Love those and can almost get away with the two on any house shot and some sport patterns with them. Most tourneys that use the more difficult patterns I use the HC and have to take a pretty big step down to my taboo/ black widow assassin.
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With my Hyper Cell - Hyper Cell Skid - Sinister being my main line up, I have a arsenal that just kicks the crap out of anyone else! ( unless they have a ROTO line up as well) -- then when the lanes brake down further I will go to either my Uproar or my Rising Star. Now that I have had the Skid for over a week, I have learned when I can use it, and when I need to change. The back end movement on the Skid is simply just unbelievable! So far this ball has impressed me the most out of any ball that I have ever had. If you want a strong back end ball, get a Skid! 8)
I will say all the big scores lately are all of the roto stuff! Even the last 2 900s were disturbed, and uproar.
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With my Hyper Cell - Hyper Cell Skid - Sinister being my main line up, I have a arsenal that just kicks the crap out of anyone else! ( unless they have a ROTO line up as well) -- then when the lanes brake down further I will go to either my Uproar or my Rising Star. Now that I have had the Skid for over a week, I have learned when I can use it, and when I need to change. The back end movement on the Skid is simply just unbelievable! So far this ball has impressed me the most out of any ball that I have ever had. If you want a strong back end ball, get a Skid! 8)
I will say all the big scores lately are all of the roto stuff! Even the last 2 900s were disturbed, and uproar.
I also have a Soul and an Asylum that I can also use if I need them. About 5 years ago I started using Roto Grip. My scores started to esclate up from matching up so well with most of there stuff over the years, I deceided to only throw Roto, and I am NOT on staff. I use what works , so I do not need to look elsewere, and I don't intend to! I will also add that IMO the Hyper Cell is probally the best rolling and hard hitting solid ball that I have every had. When this ball matches up to the lane, no other ball can compare to it!