BallReviews

Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: Ric Clint on September 27, 2009, 05:55:44 AM

Title: Mutant Cell
Post by: Ric Clint on September 27, 2009, 05:55:44 AM
Does anybody have any new information on this ball?

Official release date?

Has anybody had a chance to talk to anybody with inside information yet?


Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: rotomike on September 27, 2009, 10:16:35 PM
YES
--------------------
Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Staff Manager
Kingdom member for life
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Ric Clint on September 27, 2009, 10:19:22 PM
quote:
YES
--------------------
Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Staff Manager
Kingdom member for life


Care to tell us some inside information?




Edited on 9/27/2009 10:19 PM
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on September 28, 2009, 09:06:29 AM
quote:
Does anybody have any new information on this ball?
Nope

quote:
Official release date?
November

quote:
Has anybody had a chance to talk to anybody with inside information yet?
Nope
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: rotomike on September 28, 2009, 09:14:56 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/tscottdb/mutantcell.jpg

here was a link posted about 2 weeks ago
--------------------
Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Staff Manager
Kingdom member for life
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: VideoBallReviews on September 28, 2009, 09:23:44 AM
What kind of inside information are you looking for?
--------------------
Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Monster Pike on September 28, 2009, 09:36:54 AM
That ball looks pretty cool.  Don't want to speak for Ric, but I think he was wondering how it will compare to the original & Rogue Cells.... And maybe what it looked like & specs before rotomike posted that link.
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: rotomike on September 28, 2009, 09:54:47 AM
The core and cover are both stronger than the original Cell''s.  The core has been tweaked to be a bit torquier off of the spot.  

I like the color as well.

Ther have also been some reports of some side effects but I''m still looking into it.
--------------------
Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Staff Manager
Kingdom member for life

Edited on 9/28/2009 9:55 AM
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: VideoBallReviews on September 28, 2009, 10:05:51 AM
quote:
The core and cover are both stronger than the original Cell''s.  The core has been tweaked to be a bit torquier off of the spot.  

I like the color as well.

Ther have also been some reports of some side effects but I''m still looking into it.
--------------------
Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Staff Manager
Kingdom member for life

Edited on 9/28/2009 9:55 AM


I have heard the same...look forward to getting mine!
--------------------
Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Ric Clint on September 28, 2009, 10:47:13 AM
quote:
That ball looks pretty cool.  Don't want to speak for Ric, but I think he was wondering how it will compare to the original & Rogue Cells.... And maybe what it looked like & specs before rotomike posted that link.


Pretty much. And I heard that Wes Malott has thrown it on Tour already and other Tour Pros has as well... and was just wondering if anybody has talked to anybody on Tour and got their opinion yet?


Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: mmcfarland300 on September 28, 2009, 10:47:35 AM
quote:
The core and cover are both stronger than the original Cell''s.  The core has been tweaked to be a bit torquier off of the spot.  

I like the color as well.

Ther have also been some reports of some side effects but I''m still looking into it.
--------------------
Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Staff Manager
Kingdom member for life

Edited on 9/28/2009 9:55 AM


What kind of side effects super healing, x-ray vision???
--------------------
"Another day will bring a different result"
"Pick your battles because stressing over things will not change an outcome"
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: TheDude on September 28, 2009, 10:59:37 AM
Hairy Palms and difficult getting a date. lol

there is a great ad campagin coming i saw this weekend. It make me laugh out loud when i read it on my black berry standing in line at starbucks.
--------------------
Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta. -Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
Keep them honest!

Ebay store updated very often: http://stores.ebay.com/gumby3170?refid+store
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Ric Clint on September 28, 2009, 12:16:13 PM
quote:
there is a great ad campagin coming i saw this weekend. It make me laugh out loud when i read it on my black berry standing in line at starbucks.
--------------------
Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops


Any idea when this new ad campaign will be released?


Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: TheDude on September 28, 2009, 05:22:46 PM
i dont remember i think it said first of oct or something like that the site wasnt finished being built.
--------------------
Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta. -Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
Keep them honest!

Ebay store updated very often: http://stores.ebay.com/gumby3170?refid+store
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Steve Richter on September 30, 2009, 08:21:12 AM
Dude: ROTGLMFAO!!!!

Mine should be arriving today at the shop...need to get them done for PBA-X league tonight.  If all goes as planned, I will post tomorrow.
--------------------
Steve Richter
USBC Silver Level Coach
IBPSIA Certified Technician
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Steve Richter on September 30, 2009, 09:07:27 PM
Lucky, it arrived today. I had a chance to throw it and will post a full report later this week.  I will also add pictures that will be posted to our Facebook page Friday.  As a teaser, it is very smooth and typical CELL motion.  Was very easy to manipulate the shape on Kegel Beaten Path pattern.
--------------------
Steve Richter
USBC Silver Level Coach
IBPSIA Certified Technician
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Laniarty on September 30, 2009, 09:55:20 PM
I've had a lot of success with a RICO cell pearl. If I were to use this layout for the mutant do you think I'd get a good ball for a nice predictable heavy oil look?
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: nerdytoes on September 30, 2009, 10:57:34 PM
need to know release date for the public..  stop teasing!!!!!
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Adrenaline on October 01, 2009, 03:02:38 AM
Does it really make a VG look like a plastic ball?  How'd it stack up to the Original/Rogue/Pearl?
--------------------
Mega Friction 278
Virtual Gravity 272
Twisted Fury 268
The Sauce 255
Rogue Cell
FS/FT Black Widow Solid $30
FS/FT Kinetic Energy $25
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Storm269 on October 01, 2009, 05:39:33 AM
Can go to the Hi-SP Japanese website to take a look at the video clip...
--------------------
In my league :
Virtual Gravity
Virtual Energy
Buzzsaw Clear Diamond
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: tizzle on October 01, 2009, 01:28:57 PM
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.hi-sp.co.jp/&ei=LfPESsOyJcuW8Aa2pOE6&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhi-sp%26hl%3Den


go there to see the video
--------------------
Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag...some virtual gravity, some hot sauce, a liberator, and a saw.. how can I loose....

....HG-300(2006 w/Desert Heat)...299 (03/15/09 w/Agent Orange)...HS-776 (Hot Sauce Pearl & Ebonite Magic)
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: VIXIV on October 01, 2009, 01:44:43 PM
^^^I'll help

Hi-SP - Roto-Grip Mutant Cell (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu45MjKQp6s&feature=player_embedded")
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Steve Richter on October 02, 2009, 03:36:10 AM
Due to another committment that came up I'm not going to be able to post all I promised above (that's why I'm up at 3am, ugh) at least this week.

What I'll comment though on the video is notice how it's not jerky down lane at all, just a strong hard arc into the pocket.  That is very similar to what I had in my Mutant too.  Mine did not lane shine nearly as quickly as in the vidoe though.  The 2000 surface is still pretty pure after a few games on it.
--------------------
Steve Richter
USBC Silver Level Coach
IBPSIA Certified Technician
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on October 02, 2009, 07:24:58 AM
quote:
What I''ll comment though on the video is notice how it''s not jerky down lane at all, just a strong hard arc into the pocket.  That is very similar to what I had in my Mutant too.  Mine did not lane shine nearly as quickly as in the vidoe though.  The 2000 surface is still pretty pure after a few games on it.

Maybe it''s me but the ball in the video definitely jerks on the backend (like someone kicks it left).  It appears to go long and then snap (like a hockey stick shape).

Edited on 10/2/2009 7:25 AM
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Adrenaline on October 02, 2009, 05:31:27 PM
I thought it looked more like a hook and set.
Almost like the ball is rolling out on that guy, like maybe he needed a little longer pin to pap.  But definitely looked strong, depending on what kind of oil he was on.  Covered a lot of boards, and that guy doesn't have the hand we see in all the other video's people make, so that says something for the balls strength as well.  Will be fun to see what the BB.com guys can do with that ball with their revs, lol.
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Laniarty on October 05, 2009, 05:04:00 PM
I have an opportunity to buy this ball right now, but I''m worried about overlap. I only just bought a VG 6 weeks ago and so far I''m not impressed. I have a cell pearl that I love (drilled RICO) that''s great for a ths and I''d love to see that kind of shape in heavy oil or longer patterns. I''ve found my vg is long and angular but doesn''t arc like the cp, and I often have carry issues with it. Do you think the mutant would do well drilled RICO for a different look?

I usually do a lot of research before buying a new ball, they are too expensive not to, but the newness of the release plus the offer I got doesn''t allow that this time.

Edited on 10/5/2009 5:06 PM
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Steve Richter on October 06, 2009, 02:43:05 AM
Sir & Adrenaline:  Keep in mind if he is getting the ball to the edge, this is something of a distance along the lines of Cheetah.  That means he has 25 feet of backend and as strong as he had it drilled (4"?) it's going to be strong and then quit, even with a low rev rate.
--------------------
Steve Richter
USBC Silver Level Coach
IBPSIA Certified Technician
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: justinmill14 on October 06, 2009, 08:23:31 PM
I heard that is supposed to hook way more than virtual gravity. Here is wat the pro shop guy said, "it will make vg look like plastic" that may be a little over exaggeration though.
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: VideoBallReviews on October 06, 2009, 09:11:52 PM
quote:
I heard that is supposed to hook way more than virtual gravity. Here is wat the pro shop guy said, "it will make vg look like plastic" that may be a little over exaggeration though.


That is a bit of an exaggeration (With both at the same surface)...BUT this thing absolutely hooks a ton.  I punched both of mine up and threw one tonight.  Went with a 5.5 x 5.5 MB x 2.5 pin buffer...my initial impression is that even with the "weaker" layout i put on it, it still needed a ton of oil to get down the lane.  The house im bowling at has a pretty big puddle in the middle and some friction right...once i started throwing the ball well i jumped in the puddle and just kept chasing my own breakdown in.  I didnt have a virtual gravity with but the overall hook is most likely more, but the motion is much smoother.  Continuious, but smoother.  Just like the virtual gravity, this ball seems to have the ability to maintian energy and corner from deeper angles and get through the pins strong.

I went with a 5 x 3 x 4 layout on the other one, but didnt throw it yet.  I need a big arcing/smooth rolling heavy oil ball and i think this will be it from what i saw out of the first one.  This ball will be THE heavy oil ball of choice in the Storm/Roto Lineup in my opinion...Storm has pushed ball reaction to the next level with this one...cant wait to change surfaces and play around with these things

PS Coloring is AWESOME...


--------------------
Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: LotsaBalls on October 06, 2009, 09:25:17 PM
Great!! Another sponge that every house hack in town will be burning up the lanes with.
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Ric Clint on October 06, 2009, 11:59:11 PM
quote:
I punched both of mine up and threw one tonight.  Went with a 5.5 x 5.5 MB x 2.5 pin buffer...my initial impression is that even with the "weaker" layout i put on it, it still needed a ton of oil to get down the lane.  The house im bowling at has a pretty big puddle in the middle and some friction right...once i started throwing the ball well i jumped in the puddle and just kept chasing my own breakdown in.  I didnt have a virtual gravity with but the overall hook is most likely more, but the motion is much smoother.  Continuious, but smoother.  Just like the virtual gravity, this ball seems to have the ability to maintian energy and corner from deeper angles and get through the pins strong.

I went with a 5 x 3 x 4 layout on the other one, but didnt throw it yet.  I need a big arcing/smooth rolling heavy oil ball and i think this will be it from what i saw out of the first one.  This ball will be THE heavy oil ball of choice in the Storm/Roto Lineup in my opinion...Storm has pushed ball reaction to the next level with this one...cant wait to change surfaces and play around with these things

PS Coloring is AWESOME...


--------------------
Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")



Britton,
So does that mean a Video is coming soon?

I would love to see the Mutant compared against the Rogue Cell and I would also love to see the Mutant compared against the Cell Pearl!




Edited on 10/7/2009 0:01 AM
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Laniarty on October 07, 2009, 12:50:19 AM
It's probably more fair to compare it to the original Cell, but I'd love to see a video that had all 4 in it. Shooting the same line and not just bowling a strike 26 times.
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: VideoBallReviews on October 07, 2009, 05:16:07 AM
quote:
It's probably more fair to compare it to the original Cell, but I'd love to see a video that had all 4 in it. Shooting the same line and not just bowling a strike 26 times.


I am going to have to try and get some kind of heavier shot laid down for this ball, because i have a feeling the THS at the house where i do videos will not have enough volume to handle this beast without me playing an extreme angle.  If i can get them to lay down a sport shot i will compare on the same line.  

Its tough to do that on a THS because everything funnels in the same direction...i will be comparing to either the cell solid or rogue.
--------------------
Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: dissectional on October 07, 2009, 05:20:50 AM
for those that are interested colour-wise, jeff carter has a few on his site.
boy are they eye-catching
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: Steve Richter on October 07, 2009, 01:18:56 PM
Good call Britton.  I was going to post this to our Facebook fan page but the photo upload isn't working right now.  So here's a sneek peek:

Ball: Mutant CELL
Layout: 5-3/4” X 75* x 3” (Pin over middle, PSA 1/2” right of grip line, no x-hole)
Surface: Box

Description: After my experiences with the Rogue CELL and all I heard about how much this ball hooks, was a bit afraid to drill it too strong – choosing the layout you can see.  This ball reminds me very much of the original, but with an earlier read and more continuation down lane.  I patterned this after one of my original CELL’s, but this pin distance is 3/4” weaker to account for the updates in cover and core technology.  So far the cover hasn’t lane shined up nearly as much as I thought it might.  The first “real” test happens tonight on Kegel Beaten Path pattern, but nonetheless, I’m very impressed with it so far.


http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r45/steverichter300/Pro%20Shop/Mutant.jpg
--------------------
Steve Richter
USBC Silver Level Coach
IBPSIA Certified Technician
Title: Re: Mutant Cell
Post by: nixusr on October 09, 2009, 02:04:36 PM
WHOA! I was surfing the boards looking for some info on the rogue cell and original cell and came across this post. Had no idea Roto was preparing to release a new ball in the cell line.

I just started to enter some local tourneys with my rogue and its great but doesn't quite recover in heavy volumes of oil the way I would like if I miss right by a board or two. That is operator error for sure but looking for just a bit more bite.

I'm keeping my eyes peeled on the Mutant.